Plagued Super Smash Bros. Community -

[LullerDerbyRollin]

That's what I think the biggest problem is: Hax is so delusional and his perspective is so narrow he can't see how someone can just be a jerk and an idiot, but not a super duper evil psychopath. He's confusing evil with doucheiness.

Being a douche is just a coward's way of being evil. Fitting for Leffen.

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

Okay buddy. Just want until I wrote a 200 page schizphrenic manifesto about how much of a hitler trump you are, with personal testaments by anonymous people from across the world.

This is the problem with people just finding out about a community for a brief second. You think you know about it because of the context you're given, but Leffen has been a faggot for years prior to this. Hax didn't do the best job of not being a sperg, but he wasn't wrong. Leffen has been ruining Melee for years now with his k-pop style fans. As I said, if he was in any community, he'd wind up hated because of it.

 

[NulWillBecomeTranny]

This is the problem with people just finding out about a community for a brief second. You think you know about it because of the context you're given, but Leffen has been a faggot for years prior to this. Hax didn't do the best job of not being a sperg, but he wasn't wrong. Leffen has been ruining Melee for years now with his k-pop style fans. As I said, if he was in any community, he'd wind up hated because of it.

We're not here because Leffan is a faggot, we're here because some schizo wrote a funny manifesto about him. It is a given that everyone who makes al iving off videogames is a faggot. And this is not mere sperging, this is paranoid schizophrenia and he clearly needs to be on some meds to dull his pattern recognition "skills".

 

[NoWayBro]

Hax didn't do the best job of not being a sperg, but he wasn't wrong.

That's a bit underselling, I think. Hax's video was, in my opinion, on par with people claiming they're being gangstalked. The entire video was peppered with accusations against Leffen specifically targeting him with his actions, with things like him wearing a striped shirt when Hax wore striped pants one time being evidence to him of Leffen preparing to ruin him within the community. The only reason Hax made that video was because he was butthurt that Leffen talked shit to him in particular, not because he wants to expose him.

 

[Therealhomor]

Being a douche is just a coward's way of being evil. Fitting for Leffen.

It really isn't. A douche will cut you off in traffic or yell in insult at you from across the street. But an evil person will stab their own mother in the heart and bury them in a shallow grave to fraudulently cash their social security checks. Being petty, oppositional or rude doesn't mean you'd be a monster if given the chance.

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

That's a bit underselling, I think. Hax's video was, in my opinion, on par with people claiming they're being gangstalked. The entire video was peppered with accusations against Leffen specifically targeting him with his actions, with things like him wearing a striped shirt when Hax wore striped pants one time being evidence to him of Leffen preparing to ruin him within the community. The only reason Hax made that video was because he was butthurt that Leffen talked shit to him in particular, not because he wants to expose him.

There's definitely a ton of personal vendetta in there, but nothing he said was wrong either way. It's the delivery method that people are taking issue with, and many people are contorting that into "Leffen isn't bad because of this video"

Edit: The shirt shit is a huge stretch, though.

 

[NoWayBro]

There's definitely a ton of personal vendetta in there, but nothing he said was wrong either way. It's the delivery method that people are taking issue with, and many people are contorting that into "Leffen isn't bad because of this video"

I don't know that I believe Leffen to be a dark tetrad machiavellian schemer who has set his sights on ruining people he dislikes within the Smash community. I think evidence Hax himself provided, when he showed the tweet of Leffen promoting Hax's video on ledge grabbing, proves this. It's a massive fucking reach to say that tweet in particular was meant to make him appear honest, and that he had a "reluctant tone" when saying it, or that every time he acts nice on camera it's all manipulative and meant specifically to put you under his thumb.

So no, I do think a lot of shit Hax said in that video was wrong, and is purely him being assmad. I'm sure some of the events he's talking about are accurate, but it wouldn't matter because he's already presented himself as a schizo who perceives everything Leffen does in the most deranged way possible.

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

I don't know that I believe Leffen to be a dark tetrad machiavellian schemer who has set his sights on ruining people he dislikes within the Smash community. I think evidence Hax himself provided, when he showed the tweet of Leffen promoting Hax's video on ledge grabbing, proves this. It's a massive fucking reach to say that tweet in particular was meant to make him appear honest, and that he had a "reluctant tone" when saying it, or that every time he acts nice on camera it's all manipulative and meant specifically to put you under his thumb.

So no, I do think a lot of shit Hax said in that video was wrong, and is purely him being assmad. I'm sure some of the events he's talking about are accurate, but it wouldn't matter because he's already presented himself as a schizo who perceives everything Leffen does in the most deranged way possible.

I do think he's mad, and I think he has a right to be. You're not wrong, but Leffen did shift the tone of the "community" towards his favor in this past decade and it's honestly one of the reasons I quit giving a shit about following any of it.

 

[Therealhomor]

There's definitely a ton of personal vendetta in there, but nothing he said was wrong either way. It's the delivery method that people are taking issue with, and many people are contorting that into "Leffen isn't bad because of this video"

Edit: The shirt shit is a huge stretch, though.

I'm not sure if you even watched the doc, and if you didn't I can't blame you at all because it's two hours of bullshit you probably already heard about. But it goes far, far beyond Hax bringing up the ordinary complaints the community's had against Leffen for years.

* Hax claims Leffen has taken control over the entire Melee community through manipulation and subterfuge and is turning it into a dystopian society ala 1984.
* Hax uses multiple examples of Leffen being "evil" by citing forum posts when he was a teenager saying milquetoast edgy nonsense
* Hax claims the arguments he had with Leffen when he was 15 gave him post-traumatic stress disorder.
* Hax claims Leffen has a "Dark Triad" (a bumbling misuse of the term) and is objectively a psychopath, narcacist and a machiavellian
* Hax describes an incident where he chased Leffen around the hallways of a covention screaming at him when he was not responding and trying to get away.
* Hax goes into great detail about how Leffen tried to "ruin" his controller by saying he thinks L and R should be swapped, and how arguing on discord caused his friend to ragequit the Melee community
* Hax quotes David Icke and uses his concept of "Tip-Toe Totalitarianism" to describe Leffen.

I haven't even gotten through the whole thing, this is just the shit I remember.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to add that he's said:
* Blocking people on Twitter should be illegal.
* Not allowing people to mob you on Twitter is a manipulation tactic
* "Manipulating language" should be illegal
* Leffen should be in jail for being mean

 

[I'd abeeb bear]

I'm not sure if you even watched the doc, and if you didn't I can't blame you at all because it's two hours of bullshit you probably already heard about. But it goes far, far beyond Hax bringing up the ordinary complaints the community's had against Leffen for years.

* Hax claims Leffen has taken control over the entire Melee community through manipulation and subterfuge and is turning it into a dystopian society ala 1984.
* Hax uses multiple examples of Leffen being "evil" by citing forum posts when he was a teenager saying milquetoast edgy nonsense
* Hax claims the arguments he had with Leffen when he was 15 gave him post-traumatic stress disorder.
* Hax claims Leffen has a "Dark Triad" (a bumbling misuse of the term) and is objectively a psychopath, narcacist and a machiavellian
* Hax describes an incident where he chased Leffen around the hallways of a covention screaming at him when he was not responding and trying to get away.
* Hax goes into great detail about how Leffen tried to "ruin" his controller by saying he thinks L and R should be swapped, and how arguing on discord caused his friend to ragequit the Melee community
* Hax quotes David Icke and uses his concept of "Tip-Toe Totalitarianism" to describe Leffen.

I haven't even gotten through the whole thing, this is just the shit I remember.

I watched it, and it was hilariously insane, but he still wasn't wrong. He has issues with him that tons of people have, filtered through pure autism, and he shat it out into this video, some of which should have been left on the cutting floor. I get what people are critiquing, I just still know he's not wrong in the end. For instance, Leffen HAS grown to be one of the biggest "influencers" in Smash and that's where it becomes annoying and less fun to be a part of the whole thing. I get Hax intentions with the whole thing, but he fucked up by being a sperg and it's now a meme despite the fact that his overall goal and message are correct.

 

[Therealhomor]

I watched it, and it was hilariously insane, but he still wasn't wrong. He has issues with him that tons of people have, filtered through pure autism, and he shat it out into this video, some of which should have been left on the cutting floor. I get what people are critiquing, I just still know he's not wrong in the end. For instance, Leffen HAS grown to be one of the biggest "influencers" in Smash and that's where it becomes annoying and less fun to be a part of the whole thing. I get Hax intentions with the whole thing, but he fucked up by being a sperg and it's now a meme despite the fact that his overall goal and message are correct.

I can certainly see how a douchey influencer and their idiot fans can make a community more obnoxious to be in but if you're seriously going to argue to me that Leffen has taken over the entire community and turned it in a 1984-style dystopia with his dark triad manipulation powers and that it's appropriate to chase them down a hallway screaming like a ninny then I cannot help you and I won't entertain that shit.

 

[KetchupFornicator]

So I assume Hax didn't get the reaction he was hoping for with his video. Where does that put him next, mentally? Does he say:

A) "I give up. I tried my hardest to warn the brainwashed masses, but they didn't listen."
or
B) "I need to get to work on making Evidence.zip 3, right now."

*Note: C) "Maybe I went a little too far in that video", is not an option.

 

[Truthboi]

So I assume Hax didn't get the reaction he was hoping for with his video. Where does that put him next, mentally? Does he say:

A) "I give up. I tried my hardest to warn the brainwashed masses, but they didn't listen."
or
B) "I need to get to work on making Evidence.zip 3, right now."

*Note: C) "Maybe I went a little too far in that video", is not an option.

You forgot Option D which is:

"Leffen and his evil nazi brigade are smearing my video to make sure their Orwellian control of the smash community is still strong!"

 

[fritocheeto]

I'm not sure if you even watched the doc, and if you didn't I can't blame you at all because it's two hours of bullshit you probably already heard about. But it goes far, far beyond Hax bringing up the ordinary complaints the community's had against Leffen for years.

* Hax claims Leffen has taken control over the entire Melee community through manipulation and subterfuge and is turning it into a dystopian society ala 1984.
* Hax uses multiple examples of Leffen being "evil" by citing forum posts when he was a teenager saying milquetoast edgy nonsense
* Hax claims the arguments he had with Leffen when he was 15 gave him post-traumatic stress disorder.
* Hax claims Leffen has a "Dark Triad" (a bumbling misuse of the term) and is objectively a psychopath, narcacist and a machiavellian
* Hax describes an incident where he chased Leffen around the hallways of a covention screaming at him when he was not responding and trying to get away.
* Hax goes into great detail about how Leffen tried to "ruin" his controller by saying he thinks L and R should be swapped, and how arguing on discord caused his friend to ragequit the Melee community
* Hax quotes David Icke and uses his concept of "Tip-Toe Totalitarianism" to describe Leffen.

I haven't even gotten through the whole thing, this is just the shit I remember.

1. / 2. Well he's clearly not well of the mind on this part. This is rationalizing. Trying to find a answer when there is no inherent reason, and his went off the deep end.

3. Actually pretty normal situation. When your mind isn't fully developed (he was a kid lol) you are more susceptible to abuse which includes online mudslinging. Leffen went out of his way to constantly mock and mention Hax.

4. Same as 1 / 2.

5. I saw that angle as different. Leffen wanted his arduino so he could use it to shit on him, most likely was a 'back off' kinda deal. A pathetic plea to get Leffen to stop. (Note he's not well)

6. That's not the reason, that moment was intended to show that Leffen even when factually wrong about a situation (soft and hard L cancels), Leffen will ban people from his chat and stream and insult them and double down. As for "ruin his controller", I mean that's true. Leffen's channel has several videos of trying to make the B0XX style controllers are bad for the game and must be banned. He used his influence to constantly create content for this, the only way Hax can play the game due to his hand injury.

Even if you can argue in good faith here, reality is Leffen was not and has shown he has not.

7. Same as 1/2.

 

[Therealhomor]

1. / 2. Well he's clearly not well of the mind on this part. This is rationalizing. Trying to find a answer when there is no inherent reason, and his went off the deep end.

3. Actually pretty normal situation. When your mind isn't fully developed (he was a kid lol) you are more susceptible to abuse which includes online mudslinging. Leffen went out of his way to constantly mock and mention Hax.

4. Same as 1 / 2.

5. I saw that angle as different. Leffen wanted his arduino so he could use it to shit on him, most likely was a 'back off' kinda deal. A pathetic plea to get Leffen to stop. (Note he's not well)

6. That's not the reason, that moment was intended to show that Leffen even when factually wrong about a situation (soft and hard L cancels), Leffen will ban people from his chat and stream and insult them and double down. As for "ruin his controller", I mean that's true. Leffen's channel has several videos of trying to make the B0XX style controllers are bad for the game and must be banned. He used his influence to constantly create content for this, the only way Hax can play the game due to his hand injury.

Even if you can argue in good faith here, reality is Leffen was not and has shown he has not.

7. Same as 1/2.

Oh fuck right off with this bullshit. I entertained this crap way too long because I assumed good faith, but this is just plain retarded. You can't make sense out of nonsense. Everything you're saying is nonsense.

The more you talk, the more I think Leffen did nothing wrong.

 

[fritocheeto]

Oh fuck right off with this bullshit. I entertained this crap way too long because I assumed good faith, but this is just plain retarded. You can't make sense out of nonsense. Everything you're saying is nonsense.

The more you talk, the more I think Leffen did nothing wrong.

You have no actual argument and are claiming I'm not speaking in good faith? Yeah, no.

And you are welcome to believe that, though I fully suspect you already came to that conclusion.

 

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This is the cleanest room that smash has ever been played in

 

[Happy Fish]

This isn't a complicated thing to read. This is a hardcore dork doing what is more than likely the same thing he always does when he wants a change to Melee. He sees a problem, breaks it down to the minutia and presents this case why it absolutely must be changed or the universe will end along with Melee. The difference is instead of something like ledge grab he decided to talk about a person, and in true autistic fashion he doesn't see a reason to act any different when talking about a person. The result is that he sounds absolutely ridiculous even though he did make a strong case for the point he was trying to make by the end of it.

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

This isn't a complicated thing to read. This is a hardcore dork doing what is more than likely the same thing he always does when he wants a change to Melee. He sees a problem, breaks it down to the minutia and presents this case why it absolutely must be changed or the universe will end along with Melee. The difference is instead of something like ledge grab he decided to talk about a person, and in true autistic fashion he doesn't see a reason to act any different when talking about a person. The result is that he sounds absolutely ridiculous even though he did make a strong case for the point he was trying to make by the end of it.

Okay guys listen, Leffen is literally Hitler and is turning the smash community into an authoritarian hell state with people being constantly blackmailed, gangstalked and molested all to keep one man in power!!!

 

[fritocheeto]

Leffen also claimed he was "hit 8 times and no one did anything to help me" in his #MeToo video. Then you find out that he was slapped two times, and the reason for that is he kept ramming his chair into someone's knees and generally being a little shit.

It's clear Leffen is just as crazy as Hax.