I think a lot of the freak out would be from Misha fans (I guess there is a contingent of rabids) and the show making Castiel gay in a 'never saw that coming' kinda way. Castiel really couldn't be gay before because he was an angel.
they really went for it then,As a former Supernatural fan (who fucked off around season five when it went to shit), I might be able to translate.
Early in the season, Castiel (dude in the trenchcoat who is potentially?* gay) was trapped in what SamTheEagle so aptly calls Super Hell (basically a void-space with a consciousness residing within it), and the way he got out was to make a deal with the consciousness that he would instantly be deported back to Super Hell if he ever experienced true happiness. Or something. I didn't watch it, but I read stuff.
Anyway, in the scene Castiel confesses his love to Dean (constipated looking dude) which will send him straight back to Super Hell because he's just so happy to tell Dean that he loves him even if it's not at all reciprocated (which is being seen as quite offensive and tone deaf, not least because confessing your gay love for someone you think is straight is usually horrifying, not something that makes you happy) and somehow this saves Dean from a thing, I think? I lost the plot at this point and nobody is talking about anything but that one scene so it's hard to tell what else was going on.
So basically the biggest issue is that killing off a character immediately after making it clear that they're gay is a HUGE homophobic no-no. Media has a massive history of killing off gay characters - it's referred to as Bury(ing) Your Gays - and it is often used in media to demonstrate homophobic ideas (that gays don't "get to" be happy, that gays should be punished with death for homosexuality, etc). In this case, sending Castiel basically to the worst Hell ever described on the show is a pretty clear message: If you're gay, you go to Hell. Pretty obvious homophobia.
There's also the fact that this is how they capped off a good ten solid years of what the fandom considers "queerbaiting" - that is, they've been teasing the relationship between Castiel and Dean basically since Castiel showed up in season four, encouraged by the fans who love the pairing, and then they end it with a "love confession" where the kind of love that is meant isn't even stated and Dean has zero reaction whatsoever. It's a pretty nasty way to pay back the fans that basically kept the show alive for ten years past the expiration date.
I think there's more to it and to people's complaints, but that's kind of the basics.
Personally, while the homophobic "bury your gays" bullshit always infuriates me, I think the most offensive part about the whole thing is the terrible acting. Jensen (Dean) could have been replaced with one of those life-sized standees and no one would have been the wiser, and Misha (Castiel) was overselling it so much it was truly cringeworthy and felt like he was parodying his own lines. But to be honest, I'm not sure how anyone can still take the show seriously after they pulled a season of "the boys versus god" immediately followed by "oh shit we ran out of stakes wait what if it was the boys versus god's evil sister who is totally scarier and more powerful than him!"
(Also, I'm really not sure how anyone is complaining when Supernatural has literally been homophobic as shit all along. Like, the entire time. Anyone else remember Corbett? No? Just me?)
* They really don't make it super clear that he meant romantic love, so this is pretty up in the air. Even when they're being homophobic on Supernatural, they're being extra homophobic by making it clear what they want the fans to understand in a scene but being too cowardly to take it all the way.
This is probably just the actors’ revenge. For almost two decades this evil cult have been stalking them, stalking their wives, sexually harassing them, fantasizing about murdering and torturing their wives. One of them even tried to rape Jensen in an elevator. When they asked him about it they laughed about it and (probably) got turned by it after he specifically told them not to talk to him about it. I can’t wait for the salt from the fantards.As a former Supernatural fan (who fucked off around season five when it went to shit), I might be able to translate.
Early in the season, Castiel (dude in the trenchcoat who is potentially?* gay) was trapped in what SamTheEagle so aptly calls Super Hell (basically a void-space with a consciousness residing within it), and the way he got out was to make a deal with the consciousness that he would instantly be deported back to Super Hell if he ever experienced true happiness. Or something. I didn't watch it, but I read stuff.
Anyway, in the scene Castiel confesses his love to Dean (constipated looking dude) which will send him straight back to Super Hell because he's just so happy to tell Dean that he loves him even if it's not at all reciprocated (which is being seen as quite offensive and tone deaf, not least because confessing your gay love for someone you think is straight is usually horrifying, not something that makes you happy) and somehow this saves Dean from a thing, I think? I lost the plot at this point and nobody is talking about anything but that one scene so it's hard to tell what else was going on.
So basically the biggest issue is that killing off a character immediately after making it clear that they're gay is a HUGE homophobic no-no. Media has a massive history of killing off gay characters - it's referred to as Bury(ing) Your Gays - and it is often used in media to demonstrate homophobic ideas (that gays don't "get to" be happy, that gays should be punished with death for homosexuality, etc). In this case, sending Castiel basically to the worst Hell ever described on the show is a pretty clear message: If you're gay, you go to Hell. Pretty obvious homophobia.
There's also the fact that this is how they capped off a good ten solid years of what the fandom considers "queerbaiting" - that is, they've been teasing the relationship between Castiel and Dean basically since Castiel showed up in season four, encouraged by the fans who love the pairing, and then they end it with a "love confession" where the kind of love that is meant isn't even stated and Dean has zero reaction whatsoever. It's a pretty nasty way to pay back the fans that basically kept the show alive for ten years past the expiration date.
I think there's more to it and to people's complaints, but that's kind of the basics.
Personally, while the homophobic "bury your gays" bullshit always infuriates me, I think the most offensive part about the whole thing is the terrible acting. Jensen (Dean) could have been replaced with one of those life-sized standees and no one would have been the wiser, and Misha (Castiel) was overselling it so much it was truly cringeworthy and felt like he was parodying his own lines. But to be honest, I'm not sure how anyone can still take the show seriously after they pulled a season of "the boys versus god" immediately followed by "oh shit we ran out of stakes wait what if it was the boys versus god's evil sister who is totally scarier and more powerful than him!"
(Also, I'm really not sure how anyone is complaining when Supernatural has literally been homophobic as shit all along. Like, the entire time. Anyone else remember Corbett? No? Just me?)
* They really don't make it super clear that he meant romantic love, so this is pretty up in the air. Even when they're being homophobic on Supernatural, they're being extra homophobic by making it clear what they want the fans to understand in a scene but being too cowardly to take it all the way.
This is probably just the actors’ revenge. For almost two decades this evil cult have been stalking them, stalking their wives, sexually harassing them, fantasizing about murdering and torturing their wives. One of them even tried to rape Jensen in an elevator. When they asked him about it they laughed about it and (probably) got turned by it after he specifically told them not to talk to him about it. I can’t wait for the salt from the fantards.
A shorter, less autistic explanation of this: fans have been gay shipping 2 characters for years. The writers made one of them confess their gay love, had the other appear indifferent to it, and then instantly murdered the confessor. It feels very "fine you want gay shit, here's your gay shit" and the fandom is understandably rolling their eyes. I haven't seen anyone sperging or angry about this, just memes.As a former Supernatural fan (who fucked off around season five when it went to shit), I might be able to translate.
Early in the season, Castiel (dude in the trenchcoat who is potentially?* gay) was trapped in what SamTheEagle so aptly calls Super Hell (basically a void-space with a consciousness residing within it), and the way he got out was to make a deal with the consciousness that he would instantly be deported back to Super Hell if he ever experienced true happiness. Or something. I didn't watch it, but I read stuff.
Anyway, in the scene Castiel confesses his love to Dean (constipated looking dude) which will send him straight back to Super Hell because he's just so happy to tell Dean that he loves him even if it's not at all reciprocated (which is being seen as quite offensive and tone deaf, not least because confessing your gay love for someone you think is straight is usually horrifying, not something that makes you happy) and somehow this saves Dean from a thing, I think? I lost the plot at this point and nobody is talking about anything but that one scene so it's hard to tell what else was going on.
So basically the biggest issue is that killing off a character immediately after making it clear that they're gay is a HUGE homophobic no-no. Media has a massive history of killing off gay characters - it's referred to as Bury(ing) Your Gays - and it is often used in media to demonstrate homophobic ideas (that gays don't "get to" be happy, that gays should be punished with death for homosexuality, etc). In this case, sending Castiel basically to the worst Hell ever described on the show is a pretty clear message: If you're gay, you go to Hell. Pretty obvious homophobia.
There's also the fact that this is how they capped off a good ten solid years of what the fandom considers "queerbaiting" - that is, they've been teasing the relationship between Castiel and Dean basically since Castiel showed up in season four, encouraged by the fans who love the pairing, and then they end it with a "love confession" where the kind of love that is meant isn't even stated and Dean has zero reaction whatsoever. It's a pretty nasty way to pay back the fans that basically kept the show alive for ten years past the expiration date.
I think there's more to it and to people's complaints, but that's kind of the basics.
Personally, while the homophobic "bury your gays" bullshit always infuriates me, I think the most offensive part about the whole thing is the terrible acting. Jensen (Dean) could have been replaced with one of those life-sized standees and no one would have been the wiser, and Misha (Castiel) was overselling it so much it was truly cringeworthy and felt like he was parodying his own lines. But to be honest, I'm not sure how anyone can still take the show seriously after they pulled a season of "the boys versus god" immediately followed by "oh shit we ran out of stakes wait what if it was the boys versus god's evil sister who is totally scarier and more powerful than him!"
(Also, I'm really not sure how anyone is complaining when Supernatural has literally been homophobic as shit all along. Like, the entire time. Anyone else remember Corbett? No? Just me?)
* They really don't make it super clear that he meant romantic love, so this is pretty up in the air. Even when they're being homophobic on Supernatural, they're being extra homophobic by making it clear what they want the fans to understand in a scene but being too cowardly to take it all the way.
Wait, what happened to Jensen??! Jesus, that’s terrible.This is probably just the actors’ revenge. For almost two decades this evil cult have been stalking them, stalking their wives, sexually harassing them, fantasizing about murdering and torturing their wives. One of them even tried to rape Jensen in an elevator. When they asked him about it they laughed about it and (probably) got turned by it after he specifically told them not to talk to him about it. I can’t wait for the salt from the fantards.
You haven't looked at the hashtags for it on Twitter:It feels very "fine you want gay shit, here's your gay shit" and the fandom is understandably rolling their eyes. I haven't seen anyone sperging or angry about this, just memes.
Oh I wasn't saying there weren't crazed fangirls bleating away somewhere, but this is a Tumblr thread. For all that people say Tumblr is terrible, twitter is utterly unusable in my opinion. Tumblr hags are so weathered at this point most of them have a better sense of humor about this whole thing.You haven't looked at the hashtags for it on Twitter:
Ever since Tumblr banned porn a huge swath of their users left. Judging by how fucked Twitter's gotten they all moved there. Now the Tumblr userbase is more relaxed since many of the anti-social SJW types moved to Twitter.Oh I wasn't saying there weren't crazed fangirls bleating away somewhere, but this is a Tumblr thread. For all that people say Tumblr is terrible, twitter is utterly unusable in my opinion. Tumblr hags are so weathered at this point most of them have a better sense of humor about this whole thing.
i hate it,So........surprising to no one, a rather blah ending. God disappeared all the peoples leaving Sam, Dean, and Jack (Lucifer's son) to wallow in the torment of being alone. Somewhere a spell was cast on Jack to allow him to absorb energy. A spot on earth, with a spell, can kill God according to God's death book so they go there and perform the spell. God shows up and decides to beat the fuck out of Sam and Dean before snuffing them out. Jack absorbs the energy exerted to do this. Jack goes up to God and drains him into himself making Jack the new God. Jack restores the universe and everyone lives happily ever after.
So........surprising to no one, a rather blah ending. God disappeared all the peoples leaving Sam, Dean, and Jack (Lucifer's son) to wallow in the torment of being alone. Somewhere a spell was cast on Jack to allow him to absorb energy. A spot on earth, with a spell, can kill God according to God's death book so they go there and perform the spell. God shows up and decides to beat the fuck out of Sam and Dean before snuffing them out. Jack absorbs the energy exerted to do this. Jack goes up to God and drains him into himself making Jack the new God. Jack restores the universe and everyone lives happily ever after.
i was very much a fan of seasons 1-5 but i inevitably dropped it because i was dying of boredom. the novelty of whitty lumberjack bros taking on spooky creatures, demons and angels kinda dies out when it becomes more and more of HOW DO WE RAISE THE STAKES NOW???? to me it will have always ended in season 5, (when it was SUPPOSED to end). it feels way more satisfying that way.I enjoyed Supernatural for a long time. I wouldn't say it is a 'good' show, the story was pretty basic but the action was fun and I liked the characters, the classic rock, and the exploration of different supernatural concepts throughout the world. Unfortunately it is just... so bad now. TUMBLR took the reigns some seasons ago and it has only become more "insert your cringe OC here" over time. Rather unfortunate for those of us who just wanted to watch big dudes fuck up monsters with classic rock music in the background.