Horrorcow Susan Schofield Cabana, Cory Cabana, & Michael Schofield / Schofield Productions / @bipolarnation - A Tragicomic Tale of Psychiatric Munchausen's by Proxy

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HyggeandHof

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Regarding Susan, let’s hope she starts talking a lot in court because the crazy will fly out. I’m sure the Judge would not be pleased to hear about the ”INjustice system” lol.

Maybe someone knows this ... If the court finds you a fit parent, can you just be like “nah, I’m good, you deal and pay for everything for my kids” or will you be charged with something? It’s different from abandoning your kids on the street, but the result is basically the same...and the parents who drop their kids off at McDonalds and dip are usually charged. Anyone know?
I'm interested in this as well. When looking online I came across a different case with similar underpinnings. A mother went to the ED wanting to give up her 4 year old, The child was cared for and showed no signs of abuse, Both were healthy, and the mother was adamant that she could not care for her son, and a foster family would be better for him. Ultimately, the mother was charged with abandonment--a felony-- and sent to prison. (So then the kid was obviously taken away). But it seems everyone was slightly baffled by the rarity of this (police, CPS, and the emergency room staff). It seems to me that the answer is "it's up to a judge and his/her assessment of what the states' laws regarding abandonment are."


It's possible, but from my understanding, the insanity defense is rarely ever granted.
Yeah, and even if it is granted, she'll still be locked up. It'll just be an a psychiatric care facility instead of prison. It's not like if it's granted they just release the crazy back into the streets.
 
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large_farva

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To be declared mentally unfit to stand trial would be a stretch even for batshit, especially considering some of the charges may include fraud. You can't exactly commit fraud and then say you're too crazy to stand trial.

There was a case where a man threw wet paper at a deputy while in jail overnight for another non-violent offense, but both incidents were due to his mental illness. He got a judgement of "mentally unfit" and was remanded to a state hospital for a period of time. That's the kind of shit I think applies to the insanity defense, not abusing your children for well over a decade while committing several different types of fraud; non-profit, tax, SSI, IHSS to name a few.

But DCFS doesn't investigate fraud, do they? Who would care right now and how would she get caught exactly?

Is there a charge for what she did to her kids outside the family court system?
 
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The sad thing is, she may well be right. LA DCFS sucks at their job, they've been in the news recently regarding how much they suck at their job thanks to an audit done by the state. Said audit found a laundry list of issues, including social workers faking safety assessments of homes without ever visiting them, failure to meet investigation deadlines, and failure to remove children from homes where abuse was repeatedly documented.

If Michael continues to refuse to take the kids because "lack of resources" or whatever, DCFS may well give them back to Screechy and Sancho if they make the most minimal of efforts. They've done it before to many other abused kids, they could well do it again, and the fault will rest at least partially on Michael's shoulders for it.
While this is true, Jani and Bodhi have the advantage of being fairly well known. They also have Dr. Charles Sophy on their side. Jani is also older and able to articulate the horrors she's had to endure.
 

lameandgay2

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I think we need to have some confidence in the fact that this is a typical case for permanent removal.

Disgruntled single mother punching her wild and violent 14 year old daughter in the face once after she sneaked out to have sex and smoke weed with seniors.
Outcome - DCFS likely would not remove an able bodied 14 year old girl with appropriate cognitive function for her age who is provided for, fed and offered genuine love and care by her mother. DCFS would likely put a support system in place and suggest the girl have some form of therapy and possibly (of her own free will) go to live with a grandparent or father for a few weeks/months until things calm down.

Father telling his bullied thirteen year old son to man up and giving him a bit of a kick around to try to harden him.
Outcome - Father is sent to parenting classes. School are on high alert looking for any lacerations or bruising, this child would likely not be removed if of appropriate cognitive function and able body.

Irresponsible, affluent, selfish but loving parents leave their teenage son and daughter alone with $1000 on the counter while they vacation for a week in Hawaii and come back to find teachers calling DCFS and the police breaking up wild parties.
Outcome - the teenage son and daughter would probably be dealing with the police as a bit of a scare gesture if they have committed a crime, which for this purpose, they have. It would be unlikely any charges would be brought against the parents. A once off, stupid incident like this would likely not have any standing as grounds for involvement.

In these situations, typically there will be planned intervention with DCFS, they will not be looking to go in 'GOVERNMENT TOOK MA KEEEDS' style. They will put in the measures to support the parents and teach them to deal with their circumstances, alert the school and allow them to deal with the circumstances, and put any services that may help the children in place. These situations are chilled out and just rumble on. Some people have involvement for 5 years without direct threat of removal.

Infants being passed around a paedophile ring by their mother (considered a 'vulnerable adult') who has facilitated the abuse, and one of her many revolving door boyfriends.
Outcome - Even if the boyfriends were out of the picture, this woman still facilitated the sexual abuse of her own children which is a felony, and if the children were to be placed with family, she would still have access. It is likely these children would be removed and would spend the remainder of their childhood in foster care or adopted.

Toddler locked in a closet sitting in their own piss and shit, his/her mother with a substance abuse disorder is found dead on the couch of a heroin overdose. Dad isn't around, neither was the mother's father. Mother's family are unsuitable for kinship care.
Outcome - Toddler would be taken for a physical evaluation and instantly be taken into emergency care. Still under five, this child would likely be up for adoption before the year is out.

Baby is shaken to within an inch of their life by mother, mother has a constant stream of violent felon significant others. Mother's family are all felons prone to violence and drug use, ruling out an interim kinship care order.
Outcome - Baby would need very intensive medical care. Finding a forever family for a baby is very easy, but a baby who will grow up to be disabled will be on the back shelf. This child would be put with foster parents who specialise in 'removed at birth-s' and babies, and would likely be put into long term foster care with a foster parent who takes disabled children and babies. It is very hitty missy, as even those taking disabled kids are not likely to adopt.

In these situations, it's panic stations. Police might even accompany the social workers with the 'big red key' at the door. There is no way to stop the train now, and I'd say on this end, these people very very rarely actually get their children back, if they ever even see them again.

This is slap bang in the middle, maybe a little further to situation B than situation A, as I have described. Dawn raid removals are often serious and there is a real threat to life of children in the property.
If all this medication was not legally prescribed to the children, or Susan was solely feeding the children her medication, there would be no paper trail. If they were drugged out of their minds instead of put into UCLA, there would be no paper trail. Susan's book is some nice fucking juicy evidence, no child abuser will admit to such not only on Facebook but into a book too.

Susan wouldn't have left abusive and exploitative videos online if she thought she was doing something wrong. Same with Dr Phil x2, ABC, Oprah, showing that she is completely oblivious and that is what makes her truly dangerous. There are people who don't know any better, who take their hyperactive, naughty kids to a psychiatrist and come out the door with a diagnosis of paediatric bipolar an ADHD, with a script for ritalin, lamictal and seroquel. And then there is Susan.

We really shouldn't worry. Because in my experience, those kids in this particular set of circumstances are probably never going back to the Cabana house of horrors. And if they do, I'll eat my fucking hat.
 

Rosa_Rojo

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I think we need to have some confidence in the fact that this is a typical case for permanent removal.

Disgruntled single mother punching her wild and violent 14 year old daughter in the face once after she sneaked out to have sex and smoke weed with seniors.
Outcome - DCFS likely would not remove an able bodied 14 year old girl with appropriate cognitive function for her age who is provided for, fed and offered genuine love and care by her mother. DCFS would likely put a support system in place and suggest the girl have some form of therapy and possibly (of her own free will) go to live with a grandparent or father for a few weeks/months until things calm down.

Father telling his bullied thirteen year old son to man up and giving him a bit of a kick around to try to harden him.
Outcome - Father is sent to parenting classes. School are on high alert looking for any lacerations or bruising, this child would likely not be removed if of appropriate cognitive function and able body.

Irresponsible, affluent, selfish but loving parents leave their teenage son and daughter alone with $1000 on the counter while they vacation for a week in Hawaii and come back to find teachers calling DCFS and the police breaking up wild parties.
Outcome - the teenage son and daughter would probably be dealing with the police as a bit of a scare gesture if they have committed a crime, which for this purpose, they have. It would be unlikely any charges would be brought against the parents. A once off, stupid incident like this would likely not have any standing as grounds for involvement.

In these situations, typically there will be planned intervention with DCFS, they will not be looking to go in 'GOVERNMENT TOOK MA KEEEDS' style. They will put in the measures to support the parents and teach them to deal with their circumstances, alert the school and allow them to deal with the circumstances, and put any services that may help the children in place. These situations are chilled out and just rumble on. Some people have involvement for 5 years without direct threat of removal.

Infants being passed around a paedophile ring by their mother (considered a 'vulnerable adult') who has facilitated the abuse, and one of her many revolving door boyfriends.
Outcome - Even if the boyfriends were out of the picture, this woman still facilitated the sexual abuse of her own children which is a felony, and if the children were to be placed with family, she would still have access. It is likely these children would be removed and would spend the remainder of their childhood in foster care or adopted.

Toddler locked in a closet sitting in their own piss and shit, his/her mother with a substance abuse disorder is found dead on the couch of a heroin overdose. Dad isn't around, neither was the mother's father. Mother's family are unsuitable for kinship care.
Outcome - Toddler would be taken for a physical evaluation and instantly be taken into emergency care. Still under five, this child would likely be up for adoption before the year is out.

Baby is shaken to within an inch of their life by mother, mother has a constant stream of violent felon significant others. Mother's family are all felons prone to violence and drug use, ruling out an interim kinship care order.
Outcome - Baby would need very intensive medical care. Finding a forever family for a baby is very easy, but a baby who will grow up to be disabled will be on the back shelf. This child would be put with foster parents who specialise in 'removed at birth-s' and babies, and would likely be put into long term foster care with a foster parent who takes disabled children and babies. It is very hitty missy, as even those taking disabled kids are not likely to adopt.

In these situations, it's panic stations. Police might even accompany the social workers with the 'big red key' at the door. There is no way to stop the train now, and I'd say on this end, these people very very rarely actually get their children back, if they ever even see them again.

This is slap bang in the middle, maybe a little further to situation B than situation A, as I have described. Dawn raid removals are often serious and there is a real threat to life of children in the property.
If all this medication was not legally prescribed to the children, or Susan was solely feeding the children her medication, there would be no paper trail. If they were drugged out of their minds instead of put into UCLA, there would be no paper trail. Susan's book is some nice fucking juicy evidence, no child abuser will admit to such not only on Facebook but into a book too.

Susan wouldn't have left abusive and exploitative videos online if she thought she was doing something wrong. Same with Dr Phil x2, ABC, Oprah, showing that she is completely oblivious and that is what makes her truly dangerous. There are people who don't know any better, who take their hyperactive, naughty kids to a psychiatrist and come out the door with a diagnosis of paediatric bipolar an ADHD, with a script for ritalin, lamictal and seroquel. And then there is Susan.

We really shouldn't worry. Because in my experience, those kids in this particular set of circumstances are probably never going back to the Cabana house of horrors. And if they do, I'll eat my fucking hat.
I sincerely hope you are right.
 

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Or tell Jani that she has to say she's schizophrenic and needs the meds so she can come back to take care of the dragon or it might die without her.
All I can say is this :(:_(

Ok so I'm loving how assertive Jani is being.
Who would have thought around Christmas time, that in a few months, Jani would be verbally stating that not only does she not want to see Susan, but that Susan is crazy? Who would have thought she'd have been able to bring herself to rat Cory out for his fucked up antics?

This is a really good sign.
isn't Jani's birthday coming up?? she will be 18 (I hope im right)
 

Cynically Insane

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She turns 17 on August 8th
Now don't be afraid to tell me this is batshit if it is. Could we collectively put together a birthday care package? We could fill it with small gifts, personal care supplies and birthday cards. With vetting of the contents and approval from her caretakers we could shower her with love.

I think that if I were a teen separated from my family it would be nice to feel cared about.
 

KeepHopeAlive

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Now don't be afraid to tell me this is batshit if it is. Could we collectively put together a birthday care package? We could fill it with small gifts, personal care supplies and birthday cards. With vetting of the contents and approval from her caretakers we could shower her with love.

I think that if I were a teen separated from my family it would be nice to feel cared about.

Ohhhh I so get what you're thinking/feeling, and as I have posted before, I'd love to have Jani around my many nieces. It'd be great for her. But, this site doesn't condone that and I think it's best we let what will happen, happen anyway. None of us are in the position to have any influence here except the collective outrage that pushed this story forward. We'd come off as freaks probably. and Jani and Bohdi need some"normalcy" and consistency.

I hope the leaks can convey to whomever is appropriate, that people really care about these kids. Trickle down.

I've resigned myself to praying/sending good vibes to the kids.
 

sugarcummies

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Giving her gifts would be too weird. Kiwi Farms sending Chris Chan a care package after a house fire is one thing, but randoms sending an almost 17 year old abuse victim gifts on a site dedicated to documenting and mocking eccentricities?

Jani may not see it now, but getting removed is the best gift she could ever want and this thread has done plenty for her case through careful documentation. I'm sure Michael will send something nice, and the group home will probably do a party with cake. No Susan screeching and recording it. Probably will be the least hectic party of her life.
 

Fattyroad

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Now don't be afraid to tell me this is batshit if it is. Could we collectively put together a birthday care package? We could fill it with small gifts, personal care supplies and birthday cards. With vetting of the contents and approval from her caretakers we could shower her with love.

I think that if I were a teen separated from my family it would be nice to feel cared about.
That would make us as creepy as Carl Goss and other internet weirdos who sent stuff to Jani. We don't know her and she doesn't know us.
Also now that she seems to understand what Susan has done to her she might be happier not thinking about how many people have seen her bloated and slurring with drool spots on her clothes.
 

Pina Colada

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Now don't be afraid to tell me this is batshit if it is. Could we collectively put together a birthday care package? We could fill it with small gifts, personal care supplies and birthday cards. With vetting of the contents and approval from her caretakers we could shower her with love.

I think that if I were a teen separated from my family it would be nice to feel cared about.
I see that your heart's in the right place, but it's best to let nature take its course. The kids have moved from one stressful situation to a (slightly) lesser one, and they're clearly happy enough to be out of that hellhole.
 

Ido

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I've said it before, if you want to give gifts please consider giving to needy children in your area. These kids are both in a great place away from Susan, although it might not be ideal for them it truly is in their best interests, which not a lot of fosters can say. Seriously, there are a LOT of people working on this case because these kids and by extension their mom are famous, if in a parallel universe Susan gets the kids a LOT of people are going to be pissed, kids in foster care don't have that luxury.

There are so many other things you can do that would help many more people than two innocent kids who really need to be left alone.
 

Fattyroad

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I believe the next court date is end of July. It wouldnt be surprising if Susan's lawyer asks for another continuance. Allegedly Sussn is bringing witnesses to this next hearing.

Michael AND his wife will be attending.
Her lawyer sounds pretty bad. Good lawyer would try to hide her crazy, that one is just helping her bring it out. Man I wish I could be there too.
 

Abortions4All

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I've said it before, if you want to give gifts please consider giving to needy children in your area. These kids are both in a great place away from Susan, although it might not be ideal for them it truly is in their best interests, which not a lot of fosters can say. Seriously, there are a LOT of people working on this case because these kids and by extension their mom are famous, if in a parallel universe Susan gets the kids a LOT of people are going to be pissed, kids in foster care don't have that luxury.

There are so many other things you can do that would help many more people than two innocent kids who really need to be left alone.
And if the story of Susan has infuriated you to the point of feeling like you wish you could adopt Jani and Bodhi and give them loving homes, and you're an actual adult who has a stable income and housing situation, consider the whole case an open invitation to get involved in fostering or considering adopting an older child from foster care. There are so many Janis and Bodhis.

The matching process will help make sure you don't take on a kid with needs that you're not prepared to take on. "Home studies" aren't nearly as scary as they're made out to be, and are as much about educating prospective parents as anything. There are plenty of chances to back out (you have to take some mandatory courses etc. before adopting from the foster system, at least anywhere I've ever seen these adoptions), if for whatever reason it's too much.

People who say there are tons of babies who need adoptive homes are mistaken or lying, physically/psychologically healthy kids ages 0-6 are rare and get scooped up fast by all the great waiting list homes for foster-to-adopt. Over that cute kindergarten/1st grade age range, older kids with mild to moderate special needs, often victimized by Susan-esque narcissists and worse, wait years and sometimes never find a permanent placement. States have tried to help these kids find "forever homes" by promising things like free college education and other post-placement services, but it's honestly still very difficult to match them.

So if anyone here genuinely had a feeling that you wanted to adopt these kids at some point reading the thread, there may well be some kid whose life you could impact positively forever. Don't let that feeling die now that they're safe, funnel it toward saving the life you can.