Horrorcow Susan Schofield Cabana, Cory Cabana, & Michael Schofield / Schofield Productions / @bipolarnation - A Tragicomic Tale of Psychiatric Munchausen's by Proxy

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This is understandable. We know that Michael is a very emotional person, and that he was writing for an audience. We've also seen how TLC exaggerated their lives to sell their story, so why would Michael not do the same thing?

If Michael were really as terrible of a person as a lot of people seem to think, wouldn't Jani be refusing to see him too? Jani was drugged up, brainwashed and physically and emotionally abused by Susan, and she still defied her by talking to her father when she was told not to. Jani defied the person with immediate access to harm her to talk to her father. That says a lot more about the type of person he is than his blog did.
I don't want to be too contrarian when I overall agree with you regarding Michael, but people, especially children, often love their abusers regardless of anything because it's all they've ever known.

Still, I don't think Michael is the monster a lot of people think he is. I think he's a troubled man who got caught up with a sociopath while he was relatively young and is just know learning how to walk it all back.
 

HyggeandHof

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If the eval is for Susan then it may just be a request that will tie up some loose ends in a neat bow and put a final nail in the coffin. Though high functioning narcissists and sociopaths are often highly skilled at manipulating evaluations because they know how to say the right things and recognize the repetitive questions asked in different ways. She’s a master manipulator so that may not go as well as some would hope.
Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think the decade+ of unmedicated mania has mostly destroyed Susan's ability to plausibly feign sanity for any longer than 15 minutes. Looking at her early media run with young Jani and Michael, there were some cracks showing. To a layperson, those cracks (like the giddiness in her voice when displaying Jani's pills) could be excused as being due to "a mother under extreme stress." Or some other shit like that.

The cracks got bigger --she aged, didn't sleep, and didn't medicate herself--it's now the fucking Grand Canyon. Unfillable. Her delusions and mania were on display on the new Dr. Phil, having trigger-happy Mong does her zero favors, and from her FB sharing and impulsive YouTube re-uploading (and subsequent deleting) it's apparent that she's still riding the mania train. She's even aged horribly, and now looks the part of the derranged lunatic she is. She was never attractive, but she could pass as a semi-normal human a decade ago when it suited her.

The kids' doctors and teachers know she's a Looney Toon. The only people I can see (maybe) offering character reccs are Paris and the other respite goon, and clearly biased sources like Cory and her mother. I don't believe for a second Susan--sitting in a room with just the expert--could "masterly manipute" anyone with even a bachelor's degree in psychology. Much less a Psy.D or psychiatrist.

Our leakers say Michael has been in intensive therapy since leaving Susiepoo to try to work through his issues. He knows what type of questions therapists ask, and the "red flags" answers NOT to express. I think as long as Michael keeps his anti-Susan rage in check and doesn't spout conspiracy theories in front of the shrink, he could pass an evaluation.
 
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Our leakers say Michael has been in intensive therapy since leaving Susiepoo to try to work through his issues. He knows what type of questions therapists ask, and the "red flags" answers NOT to express. I think as long as Michael keeps his anti-Susan rage in check and doesn't spout conspiracy theories in front of the shrink, he could pass an evaluation.
After seeing the amount of restraint Michael showed on Dr. Phil, I'm inclined to believe the same. He doesn't seem to cater to his impulses the way he used to.
 

lameandgay2

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If I were DCFS, I'd be evaluating Michael simply because he has admitted to needing help in the past, has had psychiatric help, and has admitted to horrific depressive episodes leaving him suicidal.

Susan jumps around manic like everything's fine and would never admit to herself she needs a psychiatric evaluation nor seek help, whereas I'm sure Michael would understand (even if he was upset or offended by the circumstances) the need for him to have an evaluation.

When it comes to mental state, Michael is completely aware of his even if he doesn't like it. Susan is completely unaware.
 

large_farva

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I hope they are. But wouldn't a psych eval just be more ammo to use against her for the charges? So, I'd think they'd make it mandatory. Just my opinion.
Her mental illness isn't the part that's criminal though. The psych eval is only used to determine parental fitness, can ya handle a kid or not and what kind of social support do you need to make sure you can safely care for your kid.

A psych evaluation can be ordered during a criminal trial to see if she is competent to stand trial unless they deem her mentally unfit and remand her to a state psych facility - hopefully for a long, long time.

It's not illegal to be crazy, even for someone as bad as Susan. What she did to the kids, and with the money, that was abuse and fraud and hopefully charges come of it.

And, it seems like Susan is running out the clock with DCFS - if she's still collecting any SSI or child support, why would she not? However, her mania and delusions persisting make me think there's a possibility she really still thinks she's going to get them back. Maybe there's some element of entitlement in there, she thinks she deserves(ed) the kids SSI.
 

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Her mental illness isn't the part that's criminal though. The psych eval is only used to determine parental fitness, can ya handle a kid or not and what kind of social support do you need to make sure you can safely care for your kid.

A psych evaluation can be ordered during a criminal trial to see if she is competent to stand trial unless they deem her mentally unfit and remand her to a state psych facility - hopefully for a long, long time.

It's not illegal to be crazy, even for someone as bad as Susan. What she did to the kids, and with the money, that was abuse and fraud and hopefully charges come of it.

And, it seems like Susan is running out the clock with DCFS - if she's still collecting any SSI or child support, why would she not? However, her mania and delusions persisting make me think there's a possibility she really still thinks she's going to get them back. Maybe there's some element of entitlement in there, she thinks she deserves(ed) the kids SSI.
She does think she's getting them back. Her attitude is that she'll just have to put in an appearance in a parenting class and voila! here are your kids back.
 

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She does think she's getting them back. Her attitude is that she'll just have to put in an appearance in a parenting class and voila! here are your kids back.
The sad thing is, she may well be right. LA DCFS sucks at their job, they've been in the news recently regarding how much they suck at their job thanks to an audit done by the state. Said audit found a laundry list of issues, including social workers faking safety assessments of homes without ever visiting them, failure to meet investigation deadlines, and failure to remove children from homes where abuse was repeatedly documented.

If Michael continues to refuse to take the kids because "lack of resources" or whatever, DCFS may well give them back to Screechy and Sancho if they make the most minimal of efforts. They've done it before to many other abused kids, they could well do it again, and the fault will rest at least partially on Michael's shoulders for it.
 

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Regarding Susan, let’s hope she starts talking a lot in court because the crazy will fly out. I’m sure the Judge would not be pleased to hear about the ”INjustice system” lol.

Maybe someone knows this ... If the court finds you a fit parent, can you just be like “nah, I’m good, you deal and pay for everything for my kids” or will you be charged with something? It’s different from abandoning your kids on the street, but the result is basically the same...and the parents who drop their kids off at McDonalds and dip are usually charged. Anyone know?
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't Susan's mental illness, if actually diagnosed, be used by her defense as a "you can't hold her accountable for the abuse/munchausen's because she's crazy uwu" if charges are brought? What is the likelihood she gets off on that if charges are brought?

The "defendant be crazy" defense is not unheard of in murder cases (which I know this isn't) but I assume it can be used here as well.
 

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She does think she's getting them back. Her attitude is that she'll just have to put in an appearance in a parenting class and voila! here are your kids back.
We'll have to see how it plays out, but knowing that she blew off a school district meeting, she could very much poo-poo the parenting classes as well.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't Susan's mental illness, if actually diagnosed, be used by her defense as a "you can't hold her accountable for the abuse/munchausen's because she's crazy uwu" if charges are brought? What is the likelihood she gets off on that if charges are brought?

The "defendant be crazy" defense is not unheard of in murder cases (which I know this isn't) but I assume it can be used here as well.
It's possible, but from my understanding, the insanity defense is rarely ever granted.
 

HyggeandHof

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Regarding Susan, let’s hope she starts talking a lot in court because the crazy will fly out. I’m sure the Judge would not be pleased to hear about the ”INjustice system” lol.

Maybe someone knows this ... If the court finds you a fit parent, can you just be like “nah, I’m good, you deal and pay for everything for my kids” or will you be charged with something? It’s different from abandoning your kids on the street, but the result is basically the same...and the parents who drop their kids off at McDonalds and dip are usually charged. Anyone know?
I'm interested in this as well. When looking online I came across a different case with similar underpinnings. A mother went to the ED wanting to give up her 4 year old, The child was cared for and showed no signs of abuse, Both were healthy, and the mother was adamant that she could not care for her son, and a foster family would be better for him. Ultimately, the mother was charged with abandonment--a felony-- and sent to prison. (So then the kid was obviously taken away). But it seems everyone was slightly baffled by the rarity of this (police, CPS, and the emergency room staff). It seems to me that the answer is "it's up to a judge and his/her assessment of what the states' laws regarding abandonment are."


It's possible, but from my understanding, the insanity defense is rarely ever granted.
Yeah, and even if it is granted, she'll still be locked up. It'll just be an a psychiatric care facility instead of prison. It's not like if it's granted they just release the crazy back into the streets.
 
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large_farva

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To be declared mentally unfit to stand trial would be a stretch even for batshit, especially considering some of the charges may include fraud. You can't exactly commit fraud and then say you're too crazy to stand trial.

There was a case where a man threw wet paper at a deputy while in jail overnight for another non-violent offense, but both incidents were due to his mental illness. He got a judgement of "mentally unfit" and was remanded to a state hospital for a period of time. That's the kind of shit I think applies to the insanity defense, not abusing your children for well over a decade while committing several different types of fraud; non-profit, tax, SSI, IHSS to name a few.

But DCFS doesn't investigate fraud, do they? Who would care right now and how would she get caught exactly?

Is there a charge for what she did to her kids outside the family court system?
 

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The sad thing is, she may well be right. LA DCFS sucks at their job, they've been in the news recently regarding how much they suck at their job thanks to an audit done by the state. Said audit found a laundry list of issues, including social workers faking safety assessments of homes without ever visiting them, failure to meet investigation deadlines, and failure to remove children from homes where abuse was repeatedly documented.

If Michael continues to refuse to take the kids because "lack of resources" or whatever, DCFS may well give them back to Screechy and Sancho if they make the most minimal of efforts. They've done it before to many other abused kids, they could well do it again, and the fault will rest at least partially on Michael's shoulders for it.
While this is true, Jani and Bodhi have the advantage of being fairly well known. They also have Dr. Charles Sophy on their side. Jani is also older and able to articulate the horrors she's had to endure.
 

lameandgay2

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I think we need to have some confidence in the fact that this is a typical case for permanent removal.

Disgruntled single mother punching her wild and violent 14 year old daughter in the face once after she sneaked out to have sex and smoke weed with seniors.
Outcome - DCFS likely would not remove an able bodied 14 year old girl with appropriate cognitive function for her age who is provided for, fed and offered genuine love and care by her mother. DCFS would likely put a support system in place and suggest the girl have some form of therapy and possibly (of her own free will) go to live with a grandparent or father for a few weeks/months until things calm down.

Father telling his bullied thirteen year old son to man up and giving him a bit of a kick around to try to harden him.
Outcome - Father is sent to parenting classes. School are on high alert looking for any lacerations or bruising, this child would likely not be removed if of appropriate cognitive function and able body.

Irresponsible, affluent, selfish but loving parents leave their teenage son and daughter alone with $1000 on the counter while they vacation for a week in Hawaii and come back to find teachers calling DCFS and the police breaking up wild parties.
Outcome - the teenage son and daughter would probably be dealing with the police as a bit of a scare gesture if they have committed a crime, which for this purpose, they have. It would be unlikely any charges would be brought against the parents. A once off, stupid incident like this would likely not have any standing as grounds for involvement.

In these situations, typically there will be planned intervention with DCFS, they will not be looking to go in 'GOVERNMENT TOOK MA KEEEDS' style. They will put in the measures to support the parents and teach them to deal with their circumstances, alert the school and allow them to deal with the circumstances, and put any services that may help the children in place. These situations are chilled out and just rumble on. Some people have involvement for 5 years without direct threat of removal.

Infants being passed around a paedophile ring by their mother (considered a 'vulnerable adult') who has facilitated the abuse, and one of her many revolving door boyfriends.
Outcome - Even if the boyfriends were out of the picture, this woman still facilitated the sexual abuse of her own children which is a felony, and if the children were to be placed with family, she would still have access. It is likely these children would be removed and would spend the remainder of their childhood in foster care or adopted.

Toddler locked in a closet sitting in their own piss and shit, his/her mother with a substance abuse disorder is found dead on the couch of a heroin overdose. Dad isn't around, neither was the mother's father. Mother's family are unsuitable for kinship care.
Outcome - Toddler would be taken for a physical evaluation and instantly be taken into emergency care. Still under five, this child would likely be up for adoption before the year is out.

Baby is shaken to within an inch of their life by mother, mother has a constant stream of violent felon significant others. Mother's family are all felons prone to violence and drug use, ruling out an interim kinship care order.
Outcome - Baby would need very intensive medical care. Finding a forever family for a baby is very easy, but a baby who will grow up to be disabled will be on the back shelf. This child would be put with foster parents who specialise in 'removed at birth-s' and babies, and would likely be put into long term foster care with a foster parent who takes disabled children and babies. It is very hitty missy, as even those taking disabled kids are not likely to adopt.

In these situations, it's panic stations. Police might even accompany the social workers with the 'big red key' at the door. There is no way to stop the train now, and I'd say on this end, these people very very rarely actually get their children back, if they ever even see them again.

This is slap bang in the middle, maybe a little further to situation B than situation A, as I have described. Dawn raid removals are often serious and there is a real threat to life of children in the property.
If all this medication was not legally prescribed to the children, or Susan was solely feeding the children her medication, there would be no paper trail. If they were drugged out of their minds instead of put into UCLA, there would be no paper trail. Susan's book is some nice fucking juicy evidence, no child abuser will admit to such not only on Facebook but into a book too.

Susan wouldn't have left abusive and exploitative videos online if she thought she was doing something wrong. Same with Dr Phil x2, ABC, Oprah, showing that she is completely oblivious and that is what makes her truly dangerous. There are people who don't know any better, who take their hyperactive, naughty kids to a psychiatrist and come out the door with a diagnosis of paediatric bipolar an ADHD, with a script for ritalin, lamictal and seroquel. And then there is Susan.

We really shouldn't worry. Because in my experience, those kids in this particular set of circumstances are probably never going back to the Cabana house of horrors. And if they do, I'll eat my fucking hat.
 

Rosa_Rojo

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I think we need to have some confidence in the fact that this is a typical case for permanent removal.

Disgruntled single mother punching her wild and violent 14 year old daughter in the face once after she sneaked out to have sex and smoke weed with seniors.
Outcome - DCFS likely would not remove an able bodied 14 year old girl with appropriate cognitive function for her age who is provided for, fed and offered genuine love and care by her mother. DCFS would likely put a support system in place and suggest the girl have some form of therapy and possibly (of her own free will) go to live with a grandparent or father for a few weeks/months until things calm down.

Father telling his bullied thirteen year old son to man up and giving him a bit of a kick around to try to harden him.
Outcome - Father is sent to parenting classes. School are on high alert looking for any lacerations or bruising, this child would likely not be removed if of appropriate cognitive function and able body.

Irresponsible, affluent, selfish but loving parents leave their teenage son and daughter alone with $1000 on the counter while they vacation for a week in Hawaii and come back to find teachers calling DCFS and the police breaking up wild parties.
Outcome - the teenage son and daughter would probably be dealing with the police as a bit of a scare gesture if they have committed a crime, which for this purpose, they have. It would be unlikely any charges would be brought against the parents. A once off, stupid incident like this would likely not have any standing as grounds for involvement.

In these situations, typically there will be planned intervention with DCFS, they will not be looking to go in 'GOVERNMENT TOOK MA KEEEDS' style. They will put in the measures to support the parents and teach them to deal with their circumstances, alert the school and allow them to deal with the circumstances, and put any services that may help the children in place. These situations are chilled out and just rumble on. Some people have involvement for 5 years without direct threat of removal.

Infants being passed around a paedophile ring by their mother (considered a 'vulnerable adult') who has facilitated the abuse, and one of her many revolving door boyfriends.
Outcome - Even if the boyfriends were out of the picture, this woman still facilitated the sexual abuse of her own children which is a felony, and if the children were to be placed with family, she would still have access. It is likely these children would be removed and would spend the remainder of their childhood in foster care or adopted.

Toddler locked in a closet sitting in their own piss and shit, his/her mother with a substance abuse disorder is found dead on the couch of a heroin overdose. Dad isn't around, neither was the mother's father. Mother's family are unsuitable for kinship care.
Outcome - Toddler would be taken for a physical evaluation and instantly be taken into emergency care. Still under five, this child would likely be up for adoption before the year is out.

Baby is shaken to within an inch of their life by mother, mother has a constant stream of violent felon significant others. Mother's family are all felons prone to violence and drug use, ruling out an interim kinship care order.
Outcome - Baby would need very intensive medical care. Finding a forever family for a baby is very easy, but a baby who will grow up to be disabled will be on the back shelf. This child would be put with foster parents who specialise in 'removed at birth-s' and babies, and would likely be put into long term foster care with a foster parent who takes disabled children and babies. It is very hitty missy, as even those taking disabled kids are not likely to adopt.

In these situations, it's panic stations. Police might even accompany the social workers with the 'big red key' at the door. There is no way to stop the train now, and I'd say on this end, these people very very rarely actually get their children back, if they ever even see them again.

This is slap bang in the middle, maybe a little further to situation B than situation A, as I have described. Dawn raid removals are often serious and there is a real threat to life of children in the property.
If all this medication was not legally prescribed to the children, or Susan was solely feeding the children her medication, there would be no paper trail. If they were drugged out of their minds instead of put into UCLA, there would be no paper trail. Susan's book is some nice fucking juicy evidence, no child abuser will admit to such not only on Facebook but into a book too.

Susan wouldn't have left abusive and exploitative videos online if she thought she was doing something wrong. Same with Dr Phil x2, ABC, Oprah, showing that she is completely oblivious and that is what makes her truly dangerous. There are people who don't know any better, who take their hyperactive, naughty kids to a psychiatrist and come out the door with a diagnosis of paediatric bipolar an ADHD, with a script for ritalin, lamictal and seroquel. And then there is Susan.

We really shouldn't worry. Because in my experience, those kids in this particular set of circumstances are probably never going back to the Cabana house of horrors. And if they do, I'll eat my fucking hat.
I sincerely hope you are right.
 

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