Such a life achievement Susie Green and well done on not being able to spread your genes further by castrating your son.
Susie Green & Mermaids UK - "Trans Kid Support Charity", Susie had her underage kid get GRS
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We're mostly back to 100%. Expect more disruptions that will cause sister service outages for the forseeable future.
Oh piss off!
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The once-pretty-decent Independent has let Susie have a whinge about the Tavistock ruling.
I hope this is the right thread for this.
Note: I've saved the video on my drive because I think Youtube might take it down, but I'm a dumb noob and I'm not sure how to archive it to the site (or if I even should) since it's over 600 MB and an hour long.
Note: I've saved the video on my drive because I think Youtube might take it down, but I'm a dumb noob and I'm not sure how to archive it to the site (or if I even should) since it's over 600 MB and an hour long.
Good find, and good on you saving it just in case. These guys also have a podcast
Will listen in, thanks kiwi
papaya
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I listened to it over lunch. It's the former "Consultant Psychotherapist and Associate Clinical Director of Adult and Adolescent Service at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust" discussing his concerns.
Basically very similar to what we already know from the BBC investigation and the Bell case -- namely that the clinic was pretty much just transing every kid that walked through the door and that transition was being presented as the solution to all these young people's problems, when really most of them had a combination of issues. Social media is influencing kids, teaching them the "right" phrases to say to get past "gatekeepers".
Mermaids was mentioned several times as an organization that had way too much influence, along with another one (Gender Intelligence I think?). The disproportionate rates of autistic kids being referred, and the extreme gender ratio swap (that is to say gender clinics used to be very few kids, mostly boys/MTF, now it's tons of kids, mostly girls/FTM). The fact that key people were excluded from meetings and information withheld. He states that the issue has been politicized to the detriment of the well being of the patients and the integrity of the service.
The interviewer asks a really good question, which I am wondering too, which is how the hell Mermaids got to have so much political power and influence. He doesn't really directly answer it (maybe he doesn't know either), but he does point out how dissenting people are being censored/no-platformed and accused of being "religious right wing bigots", even though the people speaking out pretty clearly are not those things at all. Evans himself is not religious and is left leaning. A lot of people won't speak up for fear of being smeared as something they're not.
But the ultimate question brought up and left unanswered that I wanted to know is WHY. Why does Mermaids want to railroad every child who plays with the 'wrong' toys into being trans? Why this environment of no-questioning, no dialogue, no exploring other treatment pathways? Who benefits from this? Certainly not the kids themselves.
Edit: Updated information, it seems Evans doesn't have the title of Dr., but he is a psychoanalyst/therapist. I guess that kind of position involves a Master's maybe?
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Mermaids' accounts are on the Charity Commission web-site and it's interesting reading. They made a loss of £138,889 for the year ending March 2020.
Surprisingly little went on marketing and communication, which might explain why Susie is so bad at it if she's doing it herself. Staff Costs was huge (gotta respect the grift, I guess) and Legal and professional was the next biggest.
Fixing the issue with the shitty IT security leading to confidential e-mails to and about parents being searchable on Google cost them 158k. "Exceptional costs"
They're also clearly rattled. There's multiple mentions of how they know they receive a lot of criticism and how people are doubting their authority, but typically it's framed as only being haters and cranks attacking them instead of serious concerns. This is in their accounts, they thought this would be the appropriate place for more of the handwringing about transphobes.
They're improving child safeguarding apparently, but all the people pointing out the flaws in the system that could easily have been exploited by abusers were "hostile" and "transphobic"
Their overarching principles, let's see if they actually stick to any of these this year:
Thanks to the Twitter terves for finding it, there's a great thread going here: https://twitter.com/Neverfallingfo1/status/1348401299969204225
Surprisingly little went on marketing and communication, which might explain why Susie is so bad at it if she's doing it herself. Staff Costs was huge (gotta respect the grift, I guess) and Legal and professional was the next biggest.
Fixing the issue with the shitty IT security leading to confidential e-mails to and about parents being searchable on Google cost them 158k. "Exceptional costs"
They're also clearly rattled. There's multiple mentions of how they know they receive a lot of criticism and how people are doubting their authority, but typically it's framed as only being haters and cranks attacking them instead of serious concerns. This is in their accounts, they thought this would be the appropriate place for more of the handwringing about transphobes.
They're improving child safeguarding apparently, but all the people pointing out the flaws in the system that could easily have been exploited by abusers were "hostile" and "transphobic"
Their overarching principles, let's see if they actually stick to any of these this year:
Thanks to the Twitter terves for finding it, there's a great thread going here: https://twitter.com/Neverfallingfo1/status/1348401299969204225
God, this charity is horrifying. At least recent events have put them on the ropes a bit.
One thing for the other Britfags in the thread, when all this came up in June last year it flew completely under the radar for me. Was this the same for you? I remember the court ruling being big news but everything else, just nothing.
One thing for the other Britfags in the thread, when all this came up in June last year it flew completely under the radar for me. Was this the same for you? I remember the court ruling being big news but everything else, just nothing.
I have been keeping an eye in Mermaids and their doings for a while.
I dip in and out of this thread but also find there is a wealth of info on both Mermaids and Susie Green on Mumsnet. A search on there would bring up loads, I would expect.
Better late than never. Granted it's going to be in potato quality:
Archive (Potato Quality):
It'sallabitsillyreally
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Probably would not even have heard about it to this degree were it not for the Farms. Even the ruling was fairly quiet in most news.
I think Mermaids has a good chance of going down in flames in the not too distant future at which point it might get more attention but because so many media outlets also desperately depend on the American attention too there may be a reluctance to go all in with the knife. The Daily Mail will because it's the sort of scavenger that would eat its own shit, never mind the feces from other outlets. And of course the many more famous supporters will be eager to ensure nothing sticks to them.
Absolutely, after all I don't browse mumsnet! On a side, when did they get so based?
I can see that, it's a shame Newsnight didn't mention them in relation to the Tavistock. In the meantime it looks like they're here to stay unfortunately.
Odessa Norwood
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I've been interested in GenderGP and Mermaids since early 2018, since GenderGP's MP hosted a meeting in the House of Commons for Fair Play for Women (I think?). It seemed too much of a coincidence, I wonder what he knows.
Gender GP is basically a hack trying to profit from people manipulated by mermaids and others.
I spent hundreds of quick on these lot
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Mums have always been pretty based. On the internet the mothers that are discussed are the insane and controlling ones, but in reality a lot of parents call bullshit when they see it. Older women, especially those who have given birth and expereinced the struggles that come with pregnancy are super critical of transgenderism and queer theory. They make up the main supporter base of radical feminism. The trans community has so many nonces and creeps in it that mothers are especially aware of the dangers of it.
These people also aren't massive attention whores like 'woke' and 'queer' parents are. They don't constantly need validation from zoomers and so fly under the mainstream radar.
Does anyone else find that asian plastic surgeon Anthony Youn on tik tok really fucking gross. He acts like a makeup vlogger star and chats to his young audience about the wonders of plastic surgery, for all parts of the body. He's literally normalising surgery to kids who feel insecure about their looks. And of course all these young people turn into customers. I feel like he'd love working for Mermaids. He and Sarah would get along great.
How these "anti-capitalist queer" communities don't realise they are being had by big pharma is beyond me. Do they not see that they are being primed for a lifetime of dependence on long term treatments designed to line the pockets of everyone involved? Holy shit. If only tobacco firms had marketed themselves as queer or trans they might have been able to fight regulation and social stigma.
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Hmm, pretty much reinforces the notion of 'transing the gay away'.
Mermaids seethe & cope over Jenner stating a basic fact:
https://twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1388787972212985857 (Archive)
https://twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1388787972212985857 (Archive)
Falkor
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"As someone with a trans history and sporting background she should know the facts."
They're so close to getting it, aren't they...?
