Sympathy for Victims of "Sexual Abuse" - Wrong Think Alarm Activated

[KerryDixon9]

I think in modern society any woman who claims to be a victim of sexual abuse is pretty much automatically awarded it. I cannot read victim accounts from genuine rape or child abuse victims because it's too awful a place for me to go.

But so many times I glance at reports of "brave" survivors and I'm angry that this deluded idiot is even claiming this as sexual abuse. Blasey Ford is a good example - even if she wasn't making it up and Kavanaugh's buddy confirmed it, she can fuck off with that shit.

The legal age of consent in my country is 16. If a 15 year old girl has sex with her 19 year old boyfriend I think most of the world screams PEDO and wants to string him up. I simply don't care and would just ignore it if I knew it was happening.

The girl who got the award for being the first person to name the doctor who fiddled with all the gymnasts. She said she the doc had a feel of her breasts and slipped a finger in while she was being medically examined. I do think she's a victim and torture that guy for the rest of his life, but is there nobody else who can't just understand why she kept repeatedly going back for this? (Her mother was present during the first exam at least, the Dr just positioned himself so she couldn't see.)

Do you have a dramatically different standard for boys and girls? I do. I'm with South Park, any boy above 13 who gets action from a teacher is a hero. I'm aligned with Milo in thinking he wasn't a victim.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Creepy behavior is creepy regardless of the sex of the perpetrator, but there does seem to be some kind of double standard.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Fuck you.

 

[dopy]

New I think in modern society any woman who claims to be a victim of sexual abuse is pretty much automatically awarded it. I cannot read victim accounts from genuine rape or child abuse victims because it's too awful a place for me to go.

whats up with these shiteposters as of late

 

[Cinderblock]

Most sexual abuse comes from the close social circle. Uncles, cousins, "close family friends" are your top pics. Fathers aren't uncommon either. Many go unreported or unnoticed by the parents, not to mention police. It happens way more often than you'd like to imagine to a lot women. Especially in low class, to middle-low class families with history of alcoholism. Most women will never mention it outside a very private group.

Also, OP, you'd get better ratings in your post if you at least tried to show some empathy in your writing. It is a very sensitive subject and you come across like a tard when you put in the title 'sympathy' and then in quotations "sexual abuse"

Just a rule of thumb though and to answer to your post; yes people are using sexual abuse as a new tool for power. The key to distinguish the real thing from political BS is if you think "cui bono". Most victims of sexual abuse don't go and "confront" their childhood abusers.

 

[GS 281]

Do you have a dramatically different standard for boys and girls? I do. I'm with South Park, any boy above 13

Sock of @Mister Thomas Jay Wasserberg spotted

 

[Y2K Baby]

Fuck you.

Lol, you're a loser.

 

[J A N D E K]

inb4 op is a faggot

 

[Cinderblock]

inb4 op is a faggot

And a pedo apologist.

 

[Carcinogenesis]

The girl who got the award for being the first person to name the doctor who fiddled with all the gymnasts. She said she the doc had a feel of her breasts and slipped a finger in while she was being medically examined. I do think she's a victim and torture that guy for the rest of his life, but is there nobody else who can't just understand why she kept repeatedly going back for this? (Her mother was present during the first exam at least, the Dr just positioned himself so she couldn't see.)

Nigga, have you even read the reports. These were very young girls being deceived by a monster who they thought they could trust. He went so far as to lie to them that he can reach their spines and treat them through their vagina. I have no doubt he deceived any girl who questioned him using some bullshit explanation. Their only choice seemed to be to trust the doctor as he knows what he's doing. @yawning sneasel mentioned the sock of the old freak right before I posted this.

 

[KerryDixon9]

Most sexual abuse comes from the close social circle. Uncles, cousins, "close family friends" are your top pics. Fathers aren't uncommon either. Many go unreported or unnoticed by the parents, not to mention police. It happens way more often than you'd like to imagine to a lot women. Especially in low class, to middle-low class families with history of alcoholism. Most women will never mention it outside a very private group.

I would say that pretty much anyone who is creeped on by a family member has my sympathy. I would say that a 20 year old woman whose father attempts to have sex with her can still be massively traumatized by that. So pretty much all of them I'd class as genuine victims deserving sympathy.

Also, OP, you'd get better ratings in your post if you at least tried to show some empathy in your writing. It is a very sensitive subject and you come across like a tard when you put in the title 'sympathy' and then in quotations "sexual abuse"

I don't care about ratings. I think my negative ratings are very, very high. I just post my opinion and if people think they are dumb then they can rate them dumb.

I know that my attitude towards things like this are completely out of step with how society is now, that's why I'd never speak them out loud to someone unless I trusted them and thought that they wouldn't freak out. This thread is pretty much an attempt to find out what other Kiwis think.

Just a rule of thumb though and to answer to your post; yes people are using sexual abuse as a new tool for power. The key to distinguish the real thing from political BS is if you think "cui bono". Most victims of sexual abuse don't go and "confront" their childhood abusers.

This is partly why I started the thread. I almost definitely have got it off to a bad start but I could spend hours trying to start it correctly but it would still probably be a poor start. I kind of just threw a few quick thoughts into the mix to get it started.

 

[QD 846]

i don't have a strong opinion on the topic, but ever since the whole #metoo nonsense happened i have become very suspicious about these kinds of allegations, particularly if they're brought before the media instead of a court of law.

also, people tend to conflate all kinds of stuff under the 'sexual assault' label, which is not good in my opinion.
weinstein for example has been repeatedly called a rapist, but as far as i know all he ever actually did was trading sex for favors with actresses, and generally act lewd around girls like a creepy perv. none of this is even close to the brutal and violent crime of rape, yet people lump it together as if it was all the same thing.

 

[eldri]

Dick Masterson made a great response to your last statement in his recent podcast episode.
The male student who has sex with a female teacher is not a hero. He just entered a relationship with his female teacher and is now subject to her whim.

 

[J A N D E K]

This is partly why I started the thread. I almost definitely have got it off to a bad start but I could spend hours trying to start it correctly but it would still probably be a poor start. I kind of just threw a few quick thoughts into the mix to get it started.

Well that is your first and biggest mistake. Whenever I am composing a serious post about sensitive subject matter I agonize over wording and rethink and scrap and start over multiple times until I get it right... if you need to say these things and they were so important to you... you should have considered taking the time to get it right before posting. Most people can sense the sincerity in a well composed post and tend to feel more inclined to offer more thoughtful replies.

 

[Boxy Brown]

debate user @KerryDixon9 on the ethics of hebephilia

 

[KerryDixon9]

Dick Masterson made a great response to your last statement in his recent podcast episode.

I will check that out.

The male student who has sex with a female teacher is not a hero.

Even if he thinks he's a hero? Even if he thinks it was awesome for him and he spends the next 60 years of his life thinking of it fondly? You want him to be a victim rather than a hero?

[QUOTE}He just entered a relationship with his female teacher and is now subject to her whim.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they have a relationship, maybe it was just a one off thing. But how does it work that he's subject to her whim just because he had sex with her?

 

[RG 448]

All heterosexual intercourse is rape.

 

[KerryDixon9]

Well that is your first and biggest mistake. Whenever I am composing a serious post about sensitive subject matter I agonize over wording and rethink and scrap and start over multiple times until I get it right... if you need to say these things and they were so important to you... you should have considered taking the time to get it right before posting. Most people can sense the sincerity in a well composed post and tend to feel more inclined to offer more thoughtful replies.

Because of the subject matter I think I'm getting shit thrown at me anyway, no matter how much effort I put in to try and hit the target. So all that effort would still result in the same lazy pedo accusations, so why should I waste my time?

I quickly put up my thoughts, I accept criticism and comments, we'll move on from here.

The angry mob calling me a pedo can just go and fuck themselves.

 

[J A N D E K]

The angry mob calling me a pedo can just go and fuck themselves.

I don’t recall that.

pedo apologist

The angry mob never called you a pedo. They called you a pedo apologist.

Taking the time to flesh out your ideas, getting the wording right, and knowing your audience could have worked for you here.

If you knew beforehand that you didn’t want to invest too much effort because you were sure it would invite low-effort pedo mudslinging, why did you post it in the first place? If it didn’t warrant your best efforts to convey the message, maybe the message wasn’t worth conveying.

 

[Nekromantik]

Fuck you.

Dude... that's sexual harassment. And he doesn't have to take it.