Szechaun Sauce salt - Rick and Morty is racist show that supports Asian genocide!

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https://www.inverse.com/article/30145-szechuan-sauce-rick-and-morty-mulan-mcdonald-s

"After a 19-year period of obscurity, McDonald’s Szechuan sauce was thrust back into the cultural spotlight after being featured in the Rick and Morty Season 3 premiere on April 1. New and old fans of the sauce, which originally graced McDonald’s menus when Disney’s Mulan premiered in 1998, noted that the upcoming release of the live-action remake of the beloved animated film would present the perfect opportunity to bring the sauce back.

But doing so would be a mistake.

In fact, rolling out Szechuan sauce with the original Mulan was itself problematic, though critics were less aware, then, of how the film collapsed millennia of complex Chinese history and culture into a flat, oversimplified pastiche. Maybe they just cared less. Either way, it’s not surprising that the country’s elaborate cuisine and varied flavor profiles were likewise distilled into that catch-all sweet-spicy-sour Chinese condiment — the aforementioned Szechuan sauce — and served up alongside all-American chicken McNuggets.

Clamoring for the simultaneous release of Szechuan sauce and a film inspired by a sixth-century Chinese folktale is the same as asking for Mickey D’s to serve up a rich Hollandaise or Béarnaise in honor of the quintessentially French Beauty and the Beast. Delicious as that situation might be, it has nothing to do with the roots of the legend it purports to celebrate. French cuisine is lauded for its geographical nuances (Normandy gave birth to Hollandaise, while Béarnaise is Parisian; three other French “mother sauces” exist), and reducing it into a single flavor profile would be viewed as disrespectful by home cooks and connoisseurs alike. Because it is.

The same goes for thinking Szechuan sauce could represent all of China — Sichuan (the traditional spelling) is just one of the country’s 34 provinces — but it’s obvious that this instance of cultural and culinary reductionism doesn’t seem to hold as much weight. It’s not hard to imagine why.

A similarly awkward situation arose in an article on the culinary website Food52 in which an Indian cook was asked to distill Indian cuisine into its mother sauces. “To impose a Western-centric framework on Indian cuisine is a gross simplification, since Indian cuisine has hundreds of sub-cuisines … and none of those variations really have sauces, per se,” Pooja Makhijani wrote in March. Equating Mulan’s China with a single sauce is, arguably, an even grosser simplification, but one that’s likewise tailored for Western thought (and taste).

But the good thing about Rick and Morty bringing attention to the condiment is that it forces Westerners to ask: What is Szechuan sauce, anyway? That’s like asking an American what Southern sauce is — it isn’t anything. Sichuan province (which actually wasn’t recognized formally until the year 1286, well after Hua Mulan), with its spice-filled complex flavor profiles that include gustatory sensations like tingling numbness from Sichuan peppercorns and fiery heat from New World chilis, has a number of sauces, none of which are singularly representative of the region.

Nobody’s really sure what went into the Szechuan sauce formulated by McDonald’s, but amateur chefs who have attempted to recreate it at home remember it being sugary sweet, salty with soy sauce, and tangy with rice wine vinegar or sake. One theory, popularized on “Binging with Babish,” a cooking series that recreates food featured in pop culture, is that McDonald’s simply mixed two parts of its classic sweet and sour sauce with one part of its barbecue sauce. The flavors present are elements of general Asian cooking, sure, but there’s nothing especially Chinese or Sichuan-style about it. Its spiciness level, if it had one at all, was likely extremely tepid — the exact opposite of what you’d find in Sichuan cuisine, which developed its characteristic spiciness because traditional medicine advocated spicy foods to balance the region’s cold, damp winters.

The problem is, there’s nothing American-Chinese about Mulan, a legendary girl who grew up in China centuries before America even existed.

Rick and Morty fans deserve to have their appetites for this now-mythical sauce sated, but not in relation to a live-action remake based on real Chinese folklore and cuture. Asian-Americans already suffer from consistently one-dimensional portrayals in the media and only rarely get the opportunity to educate others about the differences between entire Asian nations, let alone nuances within an individual culture. Ultimately, what the Szechuan sauce effect does is flatten cultures that Western society deems too complex, too other to consider more carefully, and Asians have too often fallen victim to that judgment.

While we’ve come a long way since Mulan, we unfortunately still live in an age where Scarlett Johansson is our best Japanese actress and Asian men are beat up on airplanes for no reason other than gross ignorance. There’s no telling whether McDonald’s will actually bring Szechuan sauce back, but the last thing Asian-Americans need is a sauce to obscure the diversity of their cultures in the same shade of faceless, nationless, Western-approved brown."
 

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AnOminous

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Boo-fucking who. Ya'll can't drive, are good at math, and your sauce is delicious. Deal with the most pansy ass racism ever invented.

As racism goes, whoever is whining about this (almost guaranteed to be white people) should compare it to "you got rhythm cause you learned to dance when we were whipping you in the slave auction lines."
 

Super Collie

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This sauce is racist. This sauce. Not the five million iterations of "chicken teriyaki combo number 6" or nondescript eggrolls that you can get for the past umpteen years at places ranging all the way from Panda Express to a dingy mom and pop restaurant owned and run by actual Chinese people.

This sauce.

Fucking idiots.
 
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https://www.inverse.com/article/30145-szechuan-sauce-rick-and-morty-mulan-mcdonald-s

"After a 19-year period of obscurity, McDonald’s Szechuan sauce was thrust back into the cultural spotlight after being featured in the Rick and Morty Season 3 premiere on April 1. New and old fans of the sauce, which originally graced McDonald’s menus when Disney’s Mulan premiered in 1998, noted that the upcoming release of the live-action remake of the beloved animated film would present the perfect opportunity to bring the sauce back.

But doing so would be a mistake.

In fact, rolling out Szechuan sauce with the original Mulan was itself problematic, though critics were less aware, then, of how the film collapsed millennia of complex Chinese history and culture into a flat, oversimplified pastiche. Maybe they just cared less. Either way, it’s not surprising that the country’s elaborate cuisine and varied flavor profiles were likewise distilled into that catch-all sweet-spicy-sour Chinese condiment — the aforementioned Szechuan sauce — and served up alongside all-American chicken McNuggets.

Clamoring for the simultaneous release of Szechuan sauce and a film inspired by a sixth-century Chinese folktale is the same as asking for Mickey D’s to serve up a rich Hollandaise or Béarnaise in honor of the quintessentially French Beauty and the Beast. Delicious as that situation might be, it has nothing to do with the roots of the legend it purports to celebrate. French cuisine is lauded for its geographical nuances (Normandy gave birth to Hollandaise, while Béarnaise is Parisian; three other French “mother sauces” exist), and reducing it into a single flavor profile would be viewed as disrespectful by home cooks and connoisseurs alike. Because it is.

The same goes for thinking Szechuan sauce could represent all of China — Sichuan (the traditional spelling) is just one of the country’s 34 provinces — but it’s obvious that this instance of cultural and culinary reductionism doesn’t seem to hold as much weight. It’s not hard to imagine why.

A similarly awkward situation arose in an article on the culinary website Food52 in which an Indian cook was asked to distill Indian cuisine into its mother sauces. “To impose a Western-centric framework on Indian cuisine is a gross simplification, since Indian cuisine has hundreds of sub-cuisines … and none of those variations really have sauces, per se,” Pooja Makhijani wrote in March. Equating Mulan’s China with a single sauce is, arguably, an even grosser simplification, but one that’s likewise tailored for Western thought (and taste).

But the good thing about Rick and Morty bringing attention to the condiment is that it forces Westerners to ask: What is Szechuan sauce, anyway? That’s like asking an American what Southern sauce is — it isn’t anything. Sichuan province (which actually wasn’t recognized formally until the year 1286, well after Hua Mulan), with its spice-filled complex flavor profiles that include gustatory sensations like tingling numbness from Sichuan peppercorns and fiery heat from New World chilis, has a number of sauces, none of which are singularly representative of the region.

Nobody’s really sure what went into the Szechuan sauce formulated by McDonald’s, but amateur chefs who have attempted to recreate it at home remember it being sugary sweet, salty with soy sauce, and tangy with rice wine vinegar or sake. One theory, popularized on “Binging with Babish,” a cooking series that recreates food featured in pop culture, is that McDonald’s simply mixed two parts of its classic sweet and sour sauce with one part of its barbecue sauce. The flavors present are elements of general Asian cooking, sure, but there’s nothing especially Chinese or Sichuan-style about it. Its spiciness level, if it had one at all, was likely extremely tepid — the exact opposite of what you’d find in Sichuan cuisine, which developed its characteristic spiciness because traditional medicine advocated spicy foods to balance the region’s cold, damp winters.

The problem is, there’s nothing American-Chinese about Mulan, a legendary girl who grew up in China centuries before America even existed.

Rick and Morty fans deserve to have their appetites for this now-mythical sauce sated, but not in relation to a live-action remake based on real Chinese folklore and cuture. Asian-Americans already suffer from consistently one-dimensional portrayals in the media and only rarely get the opportunity to educate others about the differences between entire Asian nations, let alone nuances within an individual culture. Ultimately, what the Szechuan sauce effect does is flatten cultures that Western society deems too complex, too other to consider more carefully, and Asians have too often fallen victim to that judgment.

While we’ve come a long way since Mulan, we unfortunately still live in an age where Scarlett Johansson is our best Japanese actress and Asian men are beat up on airplanes for no reason other than gross ignorance. There’s no telling whether McDonald’s will actually bring Szechuan sauce back, but the last thing Asian-Americans need is a sauce to obscure the diversity of their cultures in the same shade of faceless, nationless, Western-approved brown."

m8 this is clickbait and if anybody's salty it's the person who went and reposted it on kiwi farms
 

Nappy

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I mean I can kind of understand the argument against bastardizing and simplifying the food of a culture, but does this not already happen on a fucking daily basis literally everywhere?

Like Super Collie mentioned, the dilution of Chinese cuisine in the west is nothing new at all, and like Un Platano said, McDonald's already fucks over every cuisine anyway. Chinese culture isn't the only victim here, nor is the victimization anything new.


I mean as long as it tastes good and we all know it's a bastardization, who cares?
 

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Boo-fucking who. Ya'll can't drive, are good at math, and your sauce is delicious. Deal with the most pansy ass racism ever invented.
In America, we racially discriminate against brilliant Asian students who are the hope of their immigrant families who work 23 hours a day at tiny restaurants and laundries to fulfill college racial admissions quotas that favor thugs and reconquistas. It's how we reward the best and most productive immigrants we've had since the Jews discovered us... :/ We also literally enslaved them out West. And put some of them in prison camps for a few years on the basis of race. Plus, in all likelihood, lots of other assorted indignities. Thing is, the Asians have too much dignity to harp on about it so it's easy to forget that they've been (and still are!) on the receiving-end of trashy treatment, too. Tbh the college thing really makes me angry: I can understand racial quotas to help brown-skinned minorities, but the Asians have done NOTHING WRONG. We're just biased against them because they tend to study harder than our little tardlets. The ones I knew at school were great people, with zero drama. Better than most of my own folks. I wish people would be politer to them- and if they're going to pretend to care about anti-Asian racism, tackle real issues like stereotypes and racial quotas instead of this ridiculous faux outrage over a chicken sauce literally no one cares about... The people who own our local Chinese and Japanese restaurants work their fingers to the BONES, and their kids are always there in the afternoons studying constantly. If anyone ever DESERVED success, it's those kids. I guess I'm kind of sperging, but I've been to some of those places on and off for years- I saw one of the kids grow up from child to college age. Always there, always studying hard while his parents worked hard. For ten years. And that's the norm at all the local places. Kids study while the parents do hard work. When I see that, I WANT them to succeed and fulfil their parents' dreams.
 
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