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Tabletop Gaming: What is it?​

Tabletop gaming broadly refers to boardgames, role playing games, and miniature wargaming. There are forums, subreddits, and boards dedicated to tabletop or traditional gaming and even to specific games, factions, or strategies. On 4chan, the primary board for discussing traditional or tabletop gaming is /tg/ which has its own wiki called 1d4chan. Depending on the type of game, the amount of time, effort, and money that is required to get into the hobby can vary greatly. Board games such as Risk, Settlers of Catan, or Monopoly will have more mainstream recognition and casual fanbase but will still have some interesting and diehard fans. Generally, the more time, money, and complexity is involved, the fanbase will be more niche, dedicated, and autistic. Inevitably, when you have so many autists in one place, it devolves into drama, lulz, and sperging. We've recently had a lot of drama and I believe there will be more to be had.

Timeline​

YearTabletop Happenings
1812​
George Leopold von Reisswitz tried to make a more realistic wargame in response to critisim of the unrealistic nature of wargaming
1824​
Georg Heinrich Rudolf Johann von Reisswitz perfects his father's game
1873​
Wilhelm Jacob Meckel complains the game is too complicated and slow. American version is archived here.
1917​
HG Wells published Little Wars
1929​
Shambattle: How to Play with Toy Soldiers by Harry G. Dowdall and Joseph H. Glason (first wargame rules published in the US)
1937​
The Hobbit is Published
1952​
Jack Scruby creates 52 mm miniatures
1954​
Fellowship of the Ring is published
1956​
Jack Scruby organizes a wargaming convention in the US
1965​
Jack Scruby introduces the concept of points for units and wargear.
1966​
Jack Scruby complains about the Vietnam war making miniatures more expensive.
1967​
The International Federation of Wargaming is founded by Gygax
1968​
Lake Geneva Wargames Convention is hosted by Gygax
1971​
Chainmail is created by Gygax and Perren
1972​
Don't Give Up the Ship! Is created by Dave Arneson and Gary Gygax
1974​
D&D is first published in three pamphlets
1975​
Games Workshop is founded; Grewhawk & Blakmoor supplements for D&D are released
1977​
Basic & Advanced D&D as well as a monster manual are released; Tolkien estate sent cease and desist
1978​
First Games Workshop store is founded
1979​
James D Egbert an heroed; D&D was blamed, consequently sales quadrupled due to the Streissand's Effect
1979​
GW (Citadel) released first miniatures for D&D and other wargames
1981​
D&D removed references to Cthulu and Melnibonéan in part out of fear from fundies. This set a precedent for how TSR, WotC, and Paizo would handle public outrage.
1982​
Patricia Pulling founded BADD to protect the children from D&D, satanism, rape, suicide, and violence.
1983​
1st Edition of Warhammer Fantasy is published.
1985​
60 Minutes did a bit on how D&D made kids suicidal; sales of the game increased.
1986-1987​
GW releases Sci-Fi miniatures and then Rogue Trader
1988​
The autist Chris Pritchard murdered his step-father Leith Von Stein for his fortune, it's blamed on D&D because he made a map based on his house.
1991​
White Wolf founded; Vampire Masquerade is released, they would actually compete with TSR
1997​
Black Library is founded; Wizards of the Coast purchased TSR
1998​
3rd edition of 40k was released, it differed significantly from 2nd edition and Rogue Trader and would make Neckbeard boomers mad for 10+ years.
2000​
3rd edition D&D was released, it dropped THAC0 and made some significant changes.
2001​
GW picks up LotR rights
2003​
Warmachine is released; D&D revised 3rd edition comes out, it’s referred to as 3.5. It’s one of the most popular editions of D&D. Due to the open gaming license, a flood of 3rd party materials are released.
2004​
Dawn of War, a 40k RTS is released
2005​
Infinity is released
2006​
GW Shuts Down its Forums; White Wolf is purchased by CCP Games
2012​
GW changed their paint system
2014​
D&D 5th edition is released
2015​
Age of Sigmar is released; GamerGate takes off; White Wolf sells ip to Paradox Interactive, their executive continues to embarrass them.
2016​
GW re-established their online presence
2017​
Pre-Alpha Vampire Masquerade fails to impress; 8th edition of 40k is released, it was the biggest change since 3rd.
2018​
White Wolf releases a splatbook that included a campaign hook that involved the mass murder of homosexuals in Chechnya. It went over well with Twitter and everyone else. The larpers were fired and White Wolf effectively ceased to exist except to hold IP.

Major Games and Fanbases: Powder Kegs of Autism​

There are too many games and fanbases to cover concisely, but there are two companies that standout above the rest and a few offshoots from those companies that are worth mentioning. They are Games Workshop -sometimes called Warhammer- and Wizards of the Coast. Consequently, they are the two biggest magnets for controversy, skub, drama, and lulz.

Wizards of the Coast owns Dungeons and Dragons as well as Magic the Gathering. Even if you never played either game, if you know a neckbeard you likely have heard of either product, both of which have a large and dedicated fanbases.

Magic the Gathering is a trading card game. The cards are purchased in packs, decks, or larger sets. It’s the most popular card game out there. Yugioh took inspiration from the game and it also paved the way for Pokemon and countless of other trading card games or tcgs. There are dedicated shops, and they are almost always sold at comic book shops. It has a lot of IP attached to it, but since I don’t play the game, it’s not something I’m as familiar with.

Dungeons and Dragons is the other major game owned by Wizards of the Coast. D&D is generally cheaper than MTG or Warhammer. A player only needs the players handbook, dice, and their own miniature although even the miniature is optional. It can be more expensive for the narrator of the campaign, called the Dungeon Master or DM. The DM will generally be more experienced and will have purchased multiple books, miniatures, and possibly terrain. They basically plan the story, play the non-player characters, and enforce the rules. The DM can run a campaign in a pre-established setting, of which D&D has several. Often, they will make their own world loosely based on D&D lore. Technically nothing is required to play since it’s very easy to pirate the books. D&D tends to attract the most lolcows because it has the most recognition, is the cheapest to get into, and the easiest to fake.

There is some crossover between D&D and MTG since Wizards owns both IPs. Occasionally, WotC will release D&D books based on IP or settings from MTG such as with Theros. It’s also not uncommon for a Warhammer player to also play D&D but often MTG and Warhammer are exclusive. The reason for this is that both games can get very pricey and are time consuming, so often players focus on one or the other even if they can afford both. However, a few are able to manage it. They are, however, both a part of the Comic and/or Game shop ecosystem, so what affects one can impact the other. There are dedicated stores for roleplaying games, Warhammer, and Magic the Gathering but very frequently shops will carry products for all three. This especially occurs with shops that once specialized in comic books, since due to the decline of comic sales they’ll sell whatever they can to keep the store running, so they may also sell Funko Pops, shirts, miniatures, paints, cards, etc. Consequently, they are autism magnets and one such example in Christory is The Game Place.

Games Workshop is the other major player, but they fill a different niche. Like Wizards of the Coast, they have some trading card and roleplaying games, but their bread and butter are their tabletop wargames. Like WotC they also have several significant ips which they will license for video games and other products. Their largest intellectual properties are Warhammer 40,000, Age of Sigmar, and Warhammer Fantasy which all have various video game spin offs, merchandise, and smaller board games. They also sell Lord of the Rings and Hobbit miniatures. Most of their miniatures are what is called ‘heroic scale’ which is basically 28 mm but with exaggerated limbs and heads but recently they have increased in size. In order to play the game, you must not only have copies of the rules, but also miniatures, paint, and time to build and paint the miniatures. Consequently, the tabletop games are more niche. However, the tabletop game is not the only part of the Warhammer fandom as they have a decent number of fans that just buys the books, video games, etc.

Funny enough, GW has ties with Dungeons and Dragons. It was founded in 1975 and initially just sold wooden boards for games like Chess, Go, Backgammon, etc. They eventually landed a license to distribute D&D in Europe. and begun to sell their own miniatures that were meant to be played in games of D&D. Overtime they decided to make their own rules to support and sell their own miniatures. They would also distribute their own magazine and run their own events and conventions.

Stores that specialize in one of those games are generally found in large urban areas, so they are more likely to have a liberal bent. The other type of store is what I like to refer to as a 'mixed comic store.' Essentially, it was once a store that focused on comics but as comic sales dropped they began to sell MTG, Warhammer, and anything else to keep themselves afloat. The mixed comic store is more variable in the political leaning of its fans and will depend largely on its location, so such a store in a small town will likely be conservative, while a store in a suburban area will be more mixed. However, in small towns or places with less stores, the fans are more likely be aware of the goings and happenings of other hobbies because if their store suffers too much financially, they may lose one of the few places they can socialize with other fans. This was the motivation of some tabletop gamers to follow ComicsGate and it’s a fear that some YouTubers like to play on – like Jeremy of Unsleeved Media.

What makes the current situation volatile is that despite their similarities, the various hobbies in Tabletop gaming are more politically diverse than they’d like to admit: MTG, D&D, and Warhammer all have fans that are often very opinionated but in very different political camps. It may change from region to region but there is without a doubt a significant number of unironic communists, fascists, ancaps, even monarchists, and everything in between. The strong and strange opinions can of course be attributed to autism. If you’ve been in or around the hobby scene, you’ll have run into a fair number of these people with interesting opinions. This is especially the case with Warhammer which I suspect is due to its grim dark tone and the fact that many of the factions are authoritarian, so it’s more likely to draw edgelords a la ADF – who thankfully hasn’t discovered the universe yet. In D&D some left wing fans have always been vociferous on their opinions, as seen on rpg.net, and a fair number of left- or right-wing anarchists are attracted to the hobby. I suspect part of the reason for this is the low cost of entry. Warhammer has not only a financial wall of entry, but it also requires time and talent to build, then paint the miniatures, and afterwards know to utilize them in a game. In this way it gatekeeps some of the normies but at the same time those who are involved are generally more autistic than the average nerd. In contrast, D&D is a lot more susceptible to infiltration by left or right wing partisans.' This is because it's a lot cheaper to get into and has a lot lower barrier of entry: If someone pirates the books, borrows dice and miniatures, they don’t have to spend a dime. There are also plenty of communities online they can participate in, livestreams they can watch, and references they can get without ever sitting down to play a session. More importantly, whether they’re left or right wing, anarchists or anarchist adjacent types, are more likely to pirate pdfs, print their miniatures, use third-party merchandise, and tend to be the loudest to voice their displeasure. This inevitable results in a lot of drama.

Both fandoms have been prone to outbursts in the past, and I can see a new one occurring soon. There have been recent controversies with both companies, so it’s quite possible that another controversy could trigger another phase of the Culture Wars. It could also be a slow burn with drama occurring steadily over time with no clear beginning or end.

D&D Lolsuits​

D&D has always been spergy and a bit of a lolcow. In the earlier years, it struggled with the concept of copyright and thus ended up being sued by the right holders of Tolkien’s and Lovecraft’s works. Thus, they had to use the term ‘halfling’ instead of hobbit, treant instead of ent, etc.


More recently they have been sued by the creators of Dragonlance for reneging their decision to publish one last trilogy. Dragonlance isn’t my favorite series but the speculation is that woke employees at WotC weren’t fond of the setting and wanted it axed. It has recently been dismissed.

Satanic Panic​

When D&D was first released, there was backlash from religious American conservatives. Some believed that it was introducing people to magic, satanism, and debauchery. To be fair a lot of RPG fans are in fact degenerates, haha, but the autism was very lulzy. D&D caught headlines when in 1982 a young man named Irvin Pulling an heroed. Whether it was because of grief, the inability to accept responsibility, religious fanaticism, autism, or a mixture of those causes, his mother Patricia decided that he was a victim of cultists. Thinking of the children she formed BADD or Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons. She tried to bring about awareness, prevent kids from having fun, and filed several lolsuits against D&D and her son’s principal. This is despite the fact that Gary Gygax was a Christian himself. There were a few consequences of this in the US, first was that it helped forge an identity amongst RPGrs. second, it made them more likely to be hostile to conservatism and Christianity; third, it actually drew neo-pagans (basically people akin to Styxenhammer) to the hobby. Some Christians still a-log it but they're a very very small minority now.

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Although it peaked in the 80s, some boomers couldn’t help but boomer and would whine about it decades later as outlined in the links below. The following was written by a pastor who harped on D&D, never let it go, and is in fact still alive and still very much a boomer. Some of his stuff is still mocked in memes today. It can also be blamed for the rise of fedora tippers, who ironically became just as annoying as the fundies they once stood up to.

https://www.chick.com/Information/article?id=Should-A-Christian-Play-Dungeons-and-Dragons
https://archive.md/fQF3P

Some highlights:

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MUH IQ.
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https://www.chick.com/Information/article?id=Straight-Talk-On-Dungeons-and-Dragons
https://archive.md/fQF3P

More Highlights:

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He must’ve been scarred by some murder hobos lol.

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BWHAHAHAHAHA. It’s this line of thought which led to this meme:
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This is why session 0 is important. To establish what is and isn't ok with everyone lol.

You could still find this folks in the 90s and even in the 00's, but they're becoming increasingly rarer.

TSR set a precedent which would later be followed by WotC and Paizo: Drop potentially offensive materials from the book. It’s true that Lovecraft’s ip wasn’t public domain and had to be dropped but they had received permission to include deities inspired by Moorcock’s Elric series. They dropped it in large part out of fear of the Fundie mob. Despite these attempts at appeasement, fundies still weren’t happy nor became customers.

GW Past Errors, IP, Lolsuits, and Turn Around​

GW made several strategic mistakes which eventually culminated in the sacking of the CEO and a complete 180 as well as one of the biggest shitstorms online. Prior to the change at CEO GW was a lolcow company and on a steep decline. Many still state this even when GW stocks have generally gone up.

The Decline​

Much of the previous decline was the fault of leadership who minimized the importance of having an online presence, did not collect data on what fans wanted or even had focus groups, and in general took their fans for granted, assuming the gravy train would never stop flowing. These assumptions would result in GW sunsetting a popular IP and filling a few lolsuits that angered fans. This eventually resulted in a very brief fan revolt that successfully changed the direction of the company.

What triggered this revolt was a string of poor decisions the most notable of which was their sunsetting of Warhammer fantasy. Warhammer Fantasy was stuck in a negative downward spiral. It had begun to suffer in sales for several reasons, including rules bloat, an increase in competition from other gaming companies, a lack of investment by Games Workshop in favor of Warhammer 40,000 and specifically Space Marines. As sales decreased, the cycle would continue with Warhammer Fantasy getting less and less support, resulting in fewer sales, resulting in less support, until GW decided to scrap it altogether. This was in part because Games Workshop is a publicly traded company, so it is ultimately at the mercy of its shareholders and the CEO was known for trying to BS numbers for the shareholders. However, he couldn’t keep sweeping problems under the rug forever.

The other driver for Games Workshop decision to sunset Warhammer Fantasy was ip protection; Warhammer Fantasy like many fantasies was inspired by Tolkien, but it was darker and edgier. (Funny enough to this day they still sell Lord of the Rings miniatures). Although there are high fantasy elements and it could appear as high fantasy to outsiders, within the universe entire factions were completely unknown to the average citizen, just knowing about the Skaven or Chaos could result in one being killed by the inquisition. However, due to the generic fantasy elements of the universe it was easier for other companies to sell cheaper miniatures with a similar aesthetic. One such example is Kings of War, but there were even cases of gamers using historical miniatures such as those sold by Warlord Games. Their solution was Age of Sigmar. It would give them a unique IP which made it easier to defend against third party vendors. It also was an attempt to increase sales in what they saw as a disappointing IP. This same desire to protect their IP led them to make several lawsuits which would have dire consequences.

GW Lolsuits​

Chapterhouse Lolsuit​

The more impactful lawsuit was with a company called Chapter House. Generally, GW would ignore third parties that created alternate units or miniatures because they were generic or were distinct enough. The founder of Chapter House was a lolcow and refused to consider just slightly changing the names like everyone else. He also refused to think he did anything wrong. This meant that inevitably he would be sued. Everyone, including GW, thought that he was going to lose easily.

Chapter House openly advertised their products as being compatible with or alternatives to Games Workshop products. It wasn't unusual for people to state that they were similar or usable with GW lines, most others would couch it in generic terms like space crusaders or devil cultists. However, Chapter House not only obviously copied warhammer designs, but openly used the names of Games Workshop units, factions, and other IP and was unapologetic in doing so. The lawsuit angered some fans who liked Chapter House, but others defended GW actions as necessary to defend the IP.

Although GW won several of their points, they also lost a few too in particular with units or characters that had rules but did not have models. This meant if there was a character or unit with rules but without models that others could make an alternate for it. Since then, they have removed units and characters without models and have designed their miniature kits to make it more difficult to use third party bits. Although chapter house mostly came out on top, it was a pyrrhic victory and it soon went out of business.

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Chapterhouse

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Spots the Space Marine​

Another lolsuit, however, earned GW a lot more hate. Unlike the first it was not justified in the slightest. Basically, they sued an author for a book called Spots the Space Marine because of her use of the term space marine. It’s as stupid and as petty as it sounds. What was idiotic is that Space Marine was not a new term, nor one utilized exclusively by GW. This was a PR disaster and earned the company worse will with fans and non-fans alike. It contributed significantly to the image of GW being greedy, dirty, and antagonistic assholes.

Consequences Will Never Be the Same​

Because of these two lawsuits, GW immediately began to rename factions and moved to make all of their IPs more unique. The Space Marines became the Adeptus Astartes, the Eldar were now referred to as the Aeldari, etc. It also made them reevaluate their current lines, especially Warhammer Fantasy. Warhammer Fantasy was not as profitable, but multiple companies had managed to create alternative lines that siphoned off sales. This was in large part due to the generic look of a lot of Warhammer Fantasy. GW made the decision to make a new more unique IP that others couldn't easily make minis for. GW set out to reboot first Warhammer Fantasy and according to rumors even Warhammer 40k. As I mentioned before, any changes at all anger fans… but GW was convinced that their fans would always buy from them and that the gravy train would never end. Due to this flawed miscalculation, GW made the decision to retire Warhammer Fantasy and to replace it with something that they believed the fans would eat up.

Tom Kirby Makes an Oopsie: Age of Skubmar​


An accurate portrayal of GW under Tom Kirby.

Tom Kirby, the former CEO of GW likely knew there would be a negative reaction to their decision to end support for Warhammer Fantasy, but he didn’t know how much he was hated, and he underestimated how much good will GW actually had. The amount of hatred he culminated from the fandom can be felt in this quote:

“Chairman and former owner of Games Workshop. How bad is he? Forbes magazine allegedly described him as a "fucking tosser," which for those unfamiliar is akin to being called an unpleasantly diseased scrotum by Nurgle, or being asked to control one's temper by Angron…

Bottom line, Tom Kirby is a typical douchenozzle, next financial quarter thinker type, in an industry that thrives first on genuine creativity and imagination. He only cares about leeching the phenomenon the great Ian Livingstone created.”

Sunsetting Warhammer Fantasy made sense form a business perspective since their sales were down and it was even more difficult to protect that particular intellectual property. Additionally, a booming industry of alternate models had come into existence and likely drew their ire, and a lot of it was connected to their fantasy line. This led to Kirby’s decision to nix the line…

Warhammer Fantasy was ole yeller’d in a large event with books, models, and other releases. This event was referred to as The End Times and resulted in deaths of characters, the destruction of entire factions, and eventually the end of the world. Not surprisingly, this resulted in a large outcry aimed specifically at Age of Sigmar.

Much of the anger was related to the fluff of Age of Sigmar and not just disdain for Tom Kirby. As I mentioned before the tabletop games are a big part of the fandom, but they aren’t the only element of it: Many loved the books, the rpgs, and video games. The original world of Warhammer Fantasy was dark, gritty, and had high fantasy elements but from an in-universe perspective many did not even know the existence of some factions like the skaven or chaos. In this way it was like a mix of a lot of fantasy IPs but it has its own unique flavoring. Many worried that the universe would be lost forever. Their fears were then seen as justified because of the release of Age of Sigmar.

Age of Sigmar departed significantly in the look and feel of Fantasy. It was even higher fantasy, had a completely different world, a cleaner aesthetic, but it was still dark. What caught the most ire was the Stormcast Eternals which were negatively referred to as sigmarines for their appearing like Space Marines from 40k.

Some examples of Classic Warhammer Fantasy
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To add insult to injury the rules at launch date were extremely unbalanced and virtually unplayable without house rules. This is because distances were measured from the models themselves. This resulted in players building their minis in such a way to try to gain an advantage. More importantly, the inherent balancing system in most tabletop games, was completely thrown out: Models and upgrades cost points which mean in theory the two sides are relatively balanced. They were replaced by model count which would inherently benefit more elite armies which in a point system would less miniatures. Such a system put horde armies at a significant disadvantage.

All these combined factors resulted in one of the largest outcries by fans everywhere. The entire fan base united in their outrage (archive) and the investors collectively shitted themselves. A video went viral of a fan burning his Warhammer army which he already paid for. Some other spergs tried to burn their minis too. There was a lot of sperging (the burning starts at 8:33):



What makes this funnier is that Age of Sigmar evolved into a decent game that many argue is better than 40k. The guy who burned his minis is rumored to have gotten back into AoS, which is extra hilarious because he still could've utilized those old minis or at least sold them on ebay.
 

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Part 2​

Differences with GamerGate and ComicsGate​

What made this event significant is that it succeeded where GamerGate failed. Collectively, the fan base united and managed to convince the decision makers, in this case the shareholders, to change directions. There are a few factors why it turned out differently. For one, it was aimed at a single company. Unlike GamerGate or ComicsGate there was a single organization that could make choices on how to react. There were no other companies that could muck things up or take responsibility. There was no waiting to see what the competition would do or the ability to push this on suppliers, journalists, or other companies. Second GW had direct ties and sales to its fans. This meant that fan protests and anger could more easily affect their bottom line. This also meant that the numbers couldn’t be blurred as easily as they are with say Diamond, the company which for a long time was the sole distributor of comics. They also are especially acute to their fans because it’s a niche audience. So, each fan is worth more cash. Third, the fans weren’t divided by politics, so they provided a unified front. The anger was felt by everyone whether they were far left, far right, or more likely somewhere in between. Additionally, the change also outraged fans of 40k and other GW products who were becoming less and less patient with GW. Even those who never played fantasy were taking up arms because they feared the same changes would be brought to 40k. Fourth, as lolcowish as GW was, they loved their golden goose, and the shareholders weren’t going to let them kill it. Fifth, GW had not invested in online marketing, so at the time they did not have a bunch of journalists or YouTubers which they could convince to make hit pieces for them.

Turn around​

They replaced Kirby with another executive, one Rountree, who immediately pulled a 180. He had GW engage fans online where they previously had little presence. One of their employees Duncan Rhodes became prominent in Warhammer circles on YouTube. Complaints were often met with humorous rebuttals or were genuinely addressed. They released a new rule book which gave Age of Sigmar points and fixed the most egregious rules. They reversed their position that video games were a threat and began to license games left and right. Shortly after games like Vermintide and Total War Warhammer, brought newfound life to Warhammer Fantasy even after its death and replacement. Age of Sigmar has even found a sincere fanbase now and some consider it to be the most balanced of GW's games.

After the change in direction by Rountree, Games Workshop had a historical high in sales. This event is frequently forgotten due to the obscurity of Warhammer, but it was quite a feat because Warhammer’s fanbase is more fracticious than Orks. The anger resulted in a brief uptick of sales of Warhammer Fantasy alternatives such as Kings of War and a number of companies tried to fill the niche left by Warhammer Fantasy, but none really succeeded. Games Workshop shortly after re-established dominance of the industry.

GW v PETA​

PETA tried to call out GW for depicting models for fur and were laughed out of the room even by the most left-wing fans. Knowing PETA, it wasn’t a surprise that the one thing they’d complain about in a universe full of genocide, religious fanaticism, actual fascism, communism, and widespread human suffering was that a relatively small faction was fictional furs and skins. PETA and anyone adjacent to them were mercilessly mocked and even Matt Ward got in on the action.

Why Is PETA Asking Games Workshop to Make Warhammer Fur-Free?​

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First PETA Letter:​


https://archive.md/sPKWa

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GW Response:​

https://regimental-standard.com/2017/02/08/fur-the-emperor/
https://archive.md/fOoFF

“Attention Guardsman,

It has come to our attention that the more unscrupulous of you have been using the pelts, hides and even skins of fallen xenos beasts to supplement the warmth* afforded by your combat fatigues. This is unacceptable.

Some may question why such restraint is required, but it is our conduct on the battlefield, and our ability to maintain valorous composure even in the most horrendous of circumstances, that separates us from the filthy Orks, the wretched Eldar and the foul forces of the Archenemy.

But let us not forget, this is the 41st Millennium. We are beset on all sides by the mutant, the heretic and worse. War is all the galaxy has to offer us.

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In the pursuit of victory and survival, and in the name of the Holy Emperor of Mankind, you will – of course – be required to engage in deadly combat with terrifying foes that may well be trying to flay you alive, but that’s no excuse to stoop to their level. When engaging such foes, you are permitted to undertake the following actions:

Shoot the foe. This is not limited to a single las blast or round. You may continue shooting the foe until long after he has fallen, blasting apart his body until nothing remains to threaten the sanctity of the Imperium.

Cut the foe. This can take the form of a stabbing or slashing motion. You may use knives, swords and other implements to remove limbs and maim. You may even impale the foe’s body on a polearm as a warning to others of the fate that awaits them should they stray from the Emperor’s path.

Crush the foe. Whether under the iron might of a Leman Russ battle tank or the bludgeoning blows of a rock, you may mash the foe’s bones and beat him to a bloody pulp.

What you may NOT do is wear any part of the foe. Not even if they are vicious Clawed Fiends, deadly Khymerae, or ferocious Squigs.
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An early draft of this week’s informational was circulated among the officers. As is encouraged**, one of them raised a good question. Captain*** Dzyban wondered if perhaps we were being too stringent. Couldn’t we allow troopers to remove pelts from dead enemy warriors? These hides had already been taken and defiled, what further harm could we cause?

We assure you that, despite what may look like clear evidence to the contrary, further harm can be done by draping yourself in such skins. Others may even mistake your decision as disregarding the uniform policy, seeing it as some sort of fashion choice rather than a simple need for survival****. To make certain this rule is followed, you are to strip dead enemies of any pelts and put them to the flame.

In summary, violence is necessary in war, but better to die of the cold than soil your soul by embracing the corrupt or the alien.

Thought for today:
‘Be sound of mind or your argument is lost before it has begun’



* This should be taken as figurative warmth only. Nearly all Munitorum approved uniforms are temperate of climates.
** Untrue. Questions are to be discouraged.
*** Former rank. The dead have no rank.
**** Or worse, you may be mistaken for a xenos beast yourself.”

Follow Up:​

https://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-40000-cant-serious/amp/
https://archive.md/wip/vSdGn

RPG Net Thread:​

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?thr...‘fur’-from-warhammer-characters.797511/page-4
https://archive.md/wip/UBmSF

Even Matt Ward gets in on the fun!​

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In short PETA was being PETA, garnering negative attention and being laughed out of the room.

Warhammergate?: Warhammer is for Everyone
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Games Workshop released this statement several months ago. As one would expect, it caused quite a shit show. Arch and Sargon tried to milk it as much as possible for views, jannies went on purges against anyone that agreed with them, some neckbeards decided to make their own game, but with blackjack and hookers. To me it just seemed like more corporate speak that wasn’t going to change much, since Warhammer was already a large (and therefore “diverse”) universe. I just saw it as corporate jargon

Not much came of it, and it’s largely blown over but its been repeated again and again. In some left-wing circles, anytime anyone spouts wrong speak, one can expect “you will not be missed.” Some on the right are still butt hurt about it, but others have memed it, memed against it, and for it:
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Arch of course commented on it and got a lot of flakk.
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He also started an email campaign and would later claim victory.

https://youtu.be/ZfH7NJnKoX8
https://web.archive.org/web/20200607024958if_/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfH7NJnKoX8
https://youtu.be/GHLfYJpaBd8
https://web.archive.org/web/20201102162835/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHLfYJpaBd8&feature=youtu.be
https://youtu.be/roQlBtEBs4A
https://web.archive.org/web/20201118040633/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roQlBtEBs4A&feature=youtu.be

Raging Gold Eagle also chimed in:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mljhAVI5-z8/
https://web.archive.org/web/20201118032952/https://www.bitchute.com/video/mljhAVI5-z8/

It also spawned more edit wars on pages like this. To be fair this page gets updated whenever there is a political happening:

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/SJW
https://archive.md/wip/Qd2Kb

Some sponsors ditched Arch, while others supported him:
Suberse stands with Arch:

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There was a lot of butthurt about GW’s very corporate statement:
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https://www.enworld.org/threads/branimirs-open-letter-to-games-workshop.673091/

There were of course multiple threads on /tg/ regarding the issue.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/73773517

Some highlights:
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A&N covered it as well.
Other Drama:
God Emperor Trump (2014-2020)
A float was made of Trump as a God Emperor but he was previously referred to as the God Emperor by some of his most diehard supporters. Again not a big deal, it’s just a meme, but some progressives hated it and some /pol/ posters repeatedly used it again and again.

This would result in an edit war on 1d4chan as well on a few other Warhammer wikis which referred to the God Emperor.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Talk:God-Emperor_of_Mankind
https://archive.md/qj3k9
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/god-emperor-trump
https://archive.md/wip/YeuKq
Black Ultramarine Controversy
Going back several years there have been controversies regarding Marines being just male and Warhammer being shown as mostly white. IMO this is explained mostly by the fact that GW is based in the UK and for a long time they just painted everyone like they were British. However, in the fluff it’s always been more diverse. I don’t think it was malicious on how they painted.

https://youtu.be/4AffacpSJJI
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111201552/https://youtu.be/4AffacpSJJI

This would come up again when many were mad about a Black Ultramarine being depicted even though he previously mentioned that he didn’t care what ethnicity someone was so long as it was a good story. However, to understand why he was sperging about a Black Ultramarine, one would have to know that in his opinion the moment they started pandering to SJWs 13:39-14:02.

Arch wasn’t happy with the portrayal of a Black Ultramarine because he feared it signaled that 40k was about to be overrun. However, many of his supporters were genuinely dismayed that an Ultramarine could be black.

He more or less argued that since they had Guilliman’s geneseed any black space marine would become white. I disagree -as at least in the Horus Heresy- it was stated a few times that each legion with the exception of the White Scars recruited from various ethnicities: The White Scars preferred recruiting from Central Asian nomads basically, which I think is also weird because nomads often are less picky on race than sedentary peoples, but whatever. There are chapters were your skin would change color like the Salamanders. However, there are also chapters that are mostly black but have a white primarch, specifically the Celestial Lions.

MagicsGate

Magic the Gathering already has its own thread here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-magic-the-gathering-community.41135/

The following links go over MagicsGate and Jeremy’s antics, but basically, he’s always getting into drama, got in a slapfight with a cosplayer, and accused WotC of covering up sexual abuse. He’s also been trying to start Warhammergate and make it his own thing. It was covered already largely in this thread:

Wizards of the Coast and Orcs

Orcs are apparently racist now. The idea isn’t new per say. I can understand wanting more nuanced orcs, and in realistic settings I do prefer things to be more grey than black and white. However, there are a lot of people who are convinced that orcs are code for minorities and in particular blacks. This is especially odd when considering that they often are shown as coming from a snowy environment and have more of an overlap with Vikings, Russians, Germanic peoples, pirates, etc. IDK I always felt that they were more likely to be depicted as Northern or Eastern Europeans than anything else.
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Articles on why Orcs are racist:

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...ns-dragons-tries-to-banish-racist-stereotypes
https://web.archive.org/web/20201225162911/https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/29/884824236/dungeons-dragons-tries-to-banish-racist-stereotypes
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https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-and-dragons-orcs-racist/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200427023433/https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-and-dragons-orcs-racist/

A rebuttal:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202004/no-orcs-arent-racist

As he points out, they were initially shown as being very piggish… and carrying European style weapons, and at times garb. Anyhow, I expect the far left to ham on this point in the future just as I expect Arch to flip out about some black marine or something equally asinine..
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Still, to help decrease criticism the WotC changed the stats in Orcs and went out of its way to appease the ‘Orcs are racist crowd.’ They also changed up the Ravenloft with Ravenloft: Revamped. It was meant to be less negative of the Romani Vistani. This isn’t surprising as WotC, Paizo, and even TRC have a history of prostrating themselves to the mob dating back to the Satanic Panic.

Where to find Lulz and likely candidates for future drama:​

New but old Flashpoints:
Tabletop is known for not letting memes or debates die, so I fully expect old drama to become new again. So keep an eye out for: Orcs are racist1! As mentioned previously, followed by a-logging of Tolkien; Amazon releasing their series set in the second age causing some kind of skub; Amazon releasing series on Eisenhorn; DLC for cyberpunk; how *insert RPG book from the 80s* is problematic; fundie handwringing; PETA handwringing; Politisperging; Christian alternatives to D&D, etc.

YouTubers/CC:​

Tabletop/Warhammer:​

Some of the YouTubers are already known to those who follow politics or GamerGate. They can start drama intentionally or unintentionally.

Arch: I’d describe Arch as a Warhammer YouTuber who delves into politics, whereas Sargon is a political YouTuber that likes Warhammer. He’s often hated and knocked from left wing Warhammer fans, although he does have left wing fans who ignore his political sperging and follow him for his lore videos. He is one of the more prominent Warhammer channels that does lore videos and is known for causing skub. Besides the Warhammer is for Everyone drama, he has also stirred up controversy on his video sperging about black ultramarines, has participated in debates with Sargon, and gets in periodic slapfights online, usually at the sign of someone taking a SJW stance. I could see him going overboard. Update 01/16/21: His channel was taken down after being hacked by bitcoin scammers.

Commissar Gamza: He doesn’t really do political videos like arch and mostly sticks to lore and hobby stuff, occasionally he brings up religion and is conservative, so a lot of posters on woke sites hate him. He could end up becoming super spergy later, but more likely people would be triggered by some small thing he did. I can’t find the video, but I think he even disagreed with arch on the Black ultramarine debate. He also got in a slapfight with Major Killa bout 40k losing its grim darkness which sent him on a temporary hiatus.
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Commisar Gamza also got in a slap fight with Major Kill over whether or not 40k was losing its grim darkness, which resulted in him taking a hiatus for several months. He took down the video unfortunately.

Critical Role: Critical Role is a show that helped make D&D more mainstream. It’s played by anime voice actors that helped popularize it. Consequently, many neckbeards will never forgive them for it. Disappointment in D&D after seeing the show is called the Matt Mercer Effect. Basically, it sets false expectations which makes it frustrating for everyone involved, especially more established gamers.

Hardcore Critical Role fans and haters are often the source of lulz. Fans will gush over Matt Mercer, the various voice actors, and gush over the campaign books that were written by Matt, as well as their official merchandise. They’re also more likely to be faux fans in that some like to pose as nerdy but don’t get around to playing. Which isn’t a new issue, some people like to complain on forums more than they actually play, and some just love building characters. However, I’ve noticed a fair amount of Critical Role fans are into drama and would prefer their rpging to emphasize the rp of rpg. In contrast, detractors of Critical Role generally favor 3.5, pathfinder, generally like dungeon crawling more, and favour the g part of rpg. They also make a few funny memes haha.

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Flashgitz: They do a lot of dark humor and their channel is a reference to an Ork unit in 40k. They did a few 40k videos but were DMCA'd. The new GW is cool so they' let them make videos on purging Slaanesh cultists. This sometimes attracts a-logs and sometimes it pisses off furries for some reason. You can rest assured that their fanbase would make the Emperor proud.





Neckbeardia: Does a lot of videos based on reddit comments or reading wiki articles. It’s fanbase is pretty autistic. Their fans are definitely right leaning and their discord was nuked (it was a den of glorious autism). They sell their own minis, several which appeal to scalies, like the sample below:

https://www.facebook.com/Neckbeardia-114607180259714/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NeckbeardiaYT/
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LeakyCheese:
https://www.youtube.com/user/leakycheese (archive)
https://twitter.com/Leaky_cheese (archive)
LeakyCheese is more active with The Horus Heresy game produced by Games Workshop's Forge World subdivision. The reason why he should be kept an eye on is that he took it upon himself to try to get rid of Arch Warhammer following the leaks from Arch's Discord and the "Warhammer is for Everyone" debacle. When he was called out for his shenanigans, he pulled a page out of Matt Jarbo's handbook and flagged any YouTuber that criticized his actions.

MajorKill vs. The Outer Circle - Australian Slapfight
MajorKill is an Australian Warhammer 40K YouTuber known for his rather... humorous take on the lore of Warhammer 40K.
He can be rather "in-your-face" when interacting with others and doesn't like Arch.
He also is funding a hentai calendar on his Patreon and isn't shy about it.

https://www.youtube.com/c/majorkill18 (archive)
https://www.patreon.com/majorkill (archive)
https://discord.com/tvUe5X9

The Outer Circle is also Australian but is a Horus Heresy player.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqxdEBIQx8wv6pJ1YQHCAXQ (archive)
https://www.patreon.com/TheOuterCircle (archive)
https://www.facebook.com/TheOuterCircle/ (archive)
https://shop.spreadshirt.com.au/TheOuterCircle/ (archive)

About four months ago MajorKill provoked a slapfight with The Outer Circle by snubbing him:






Snipe and Wib: a couple that is left wing and at times pitches support for lgbtq causes. Their focus is generally on gaming but they bring up some left wing causes every now and then. I like their reviews of older codices and models, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they went off the deep end eventually. Their fans are spergs though.

Non-Tabletop YouTubers:​

These YouTubers can occasionally cause drama with their contractors when they discuss Warhammer, Warhammer, D&D, and other subjects.

Jeremy Hambly (archive): He’s been trying to get Warhammergate started for a while. He’ll occasionally put the 8th edition starter box behind him but he’s not very knowledgeable on the setting and is obviously grifting. I fully expect to get into more drama and if there was a tabletopgate or warhammergate, he’d find a way to insert himself in it. Mentioned him above.

Geeks and Gamers (archive of YT): Is pro Gate, whatever gate that is. Mostly focuses on Comics and Star Wars. Would totally hop on any tabletop bandwagon if the opportunity arose. Has his own gaming journalist website.

Mr. Metokur: he’s brought up Warhammer occasionally and did a Warhammer stream with Rikieta. He hasn’t been posting recently since he’s dying from cancer aids. RIP. I highly doubt he’s coming back but he’s discussed 40k a few times and how he think it’s unlikely to be infiltrated.

Raging Golden Eagle (archive): Channel (archive) is on the culture wars but from the little I've seen of him he actually is a gamer, unlike Jeremy. Also loves anime avatars. I'll leave it at that.

Rekieta Law (YT archive): being a lawyer he’s one of the target demographics for Forge World which sells more expensive Warhammer miniatures, books, and have their own games. He occasionally brings it up. If he started sooner he likely would’ve covered the GW lolsuits.

Sargon (KF archive): Known as the soy father by his right-wing detractors, he is an atheist youtuber with conservative leanings although his mostly American audience will often refer to him as center left. Some refer to him as alt lite. He was a critic of Anita and came to prominence because of GamerGate. He won a lolsuit against another youtuber that tried to silence hks criticism of her. He also got milkshaked and told a British politician “he wouldn’t even rape her.” He isn’t a Warhammer youtuber but he genuinely likes Warhammer, so he would and has gotten involved whenever Warhammer crossover with politics.
 

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For the Emperor!
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Groups to Keep an Eye On
If you’re looking to find drama, lulz, or skub, there are a few places you can go. These groups stir up negative reactions and often get in slap fights with each other when there’s not infighting. They’re generally less disciplined than the YouTubers and often more autistic.

Ambiguous Alpha Memes: generally right leaning, stirs up the pot. Gets in a lot of slap fights with Sigmarxism and Blood Ravens meme page. Got shitcanned. Or did they?
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Bells of Lost Souls: Could very well have his own thread. Has a lot of haters but is known primarily for being a shitty gaming tabloid that was the impetus for many to finally install ad block for the first-time. They’re infamous for their clickbait. Their unboxing videos on YouTube are ok but I hate their website, their clickbait, and how they always pop up first whenever I’m trying to find any news related to 40k. Also, they’re in Austin Texas, which explains everything. They’ve been tricked with fake rumors on a regular basis. They also sperg out a lot at times.

They’re owned by Lauro Vela who is the senior editor and president. BOLS is located in 5709 KELI COURT AUSTIN, TX 78735 and their mailing address is 1500 VILLANOVA DR, AUSTIN, TX, 78757. Their phone number is 5126330934. https://www.facebook.com/larry.vela. https://www.youtube.com/c/belloflostsouls/featured
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Bolter and Chainsword: is a marine forum. So it heavily skews towards marines and chaos marines.


(Blood) Meme Ravens: I think this page changed ownership as it’s more progressive now. Occasionally a-logs Arch. Will make 40k memes but frequently devolves into political sperging. I expect it to get banned eventually too. Has been banned in the past. Is funnier than sigmarxism but at times can make a cow out of themselves too.

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Dakka Dakka: It's a forum that many redditors consider toxic...

40k for feminists: (archive) exactly what you’d think it is. It’s mostly men white knighting a few feminists. Arch made a few videos on them and Sargon did a livestream which I had to chop up to archive locally here. I missed some parts, but I'll fix it later.







Kiwi Farms: We have a couple threads that discuss 40k and roleplaying. There have been a few interesting moments. @Randall Fragg has done some threads on bad rpgs like Wraethu, Black Tokyo, Succubus Blade, etc. We also had a thread on That Guy stories.

Historical Tabletop: exactly what it sounds like. It also has the same roots, but it sticks to a particular era like the Roman Republic, early WWII, the American Civil War, Napoleonics, etc. Its generally played by older men since it’s even more niche, therefore harder to find games and it can add up in cost. Common flash points include Weiraboos, left wingers flipping out about historical Nazis, autism about uniforms, and the constant debate about the hobby dying/being too old, etc. Since they’re boomers Facebook is a good place to find them.

RPGNet: It's very infamous and has its own thread. @Wallace accurately describes it as NEOGAF for tabletop.

Sigmarxism: exactly what you think it is. Hates any conservative YouTubers and frequently a-logs Commissar Gamza and Arch. Also is the nemesis of Ambiguous Alpha Legion memes. Really like the grot communists from Gorka Morka. They also wrote a nutty FAQ (archive).

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/tg/: the containment board for Warhammer. Back in the day there were slapfights between Warhammer fans and furries. The Warhammer sperging on /b/ led to the creation of the board, which was also meant to discuss other tabletop games. It’s frequently the center of a lot of drama. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/ is where you can find archived posts.

Warhammer for Grownups: Started as a page meant for mature individuals. What this meant varied. Some wanted to talk about politics (left or right) others just wanted to focus on Warhammer. It ended up splintering because some were convinced they opposed Free Speech.

Warhammer 40 k for Adults: started as a group to get away from snowflakes, cucks, and naturally encourage free speech. It’s a break off of Warhammer for Grown Ups which tried to be apolitical and thus were opposed to free speech. At its inception it was incredibly cringe and quickly devolved into infighting and uneven banning which resulted in several splinter groups, which I was going to include but when I checked it turned out they were zucc'd like 1-3 years ago (depending on the group).

Warseer: It was home to a lot of rumormongers. It focuses a lot on fluff, rumors, etc. It’s not my favorite site, but I pity it because it’s been hacked and has gone down a few times for long stretches of time. It never has really recovered.

Alternative Companies:
Whenever a major company like GW does something controversial and loses fans, another system will try to fill the gap. Sometimes these are fan led, other times they’re just trying to capitalize off angry fans.

Mantic: They were founded by Ronnie an exGW employee. Started selling cheaper fantasy models that were meant to be used in games of Warhammer Fantasy. This was a factor in GW rebooting their fantasy line. They also made their own games which were generally more streamlined. They have a few iPs like the Walking Dead and Mars Attacks.

Onyx Path/White Wolf: Founded by White Wolf director Richard Thomas. They publish the White Wolf ips such as vampire masquerade. They also publish their own books, some of which are very cringe like Legendlore. https://archive.md/j2UUr


This is Aaliyah, our elven iconic. She’s a Black trans woman who uses a mix of ASL and forestspeak signs to communicate. She’s a peaceful ambassador foremost, but doesn’t back down from a fight when it comes to that.
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This is Najda, our dwarven iconic. She is a Muslim army vet who was wounded during her tour in Afghanistan. She now works in a Los Angeles comic book store, where she discovered a crossing into the world of Legendlore.

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Here’s Jada, our pixie iconic. Pixies are born agender, and choose a gender as they grow up. Feminine pixies have 2 antenna, masculine pixies have 0, and non-binary pixies have 1. Pixies are as fierce as they are small, they love laughing and hate bullies.

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There you go, and here’s the link to the Legendlore Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/339646881/legendlore-rpg-setting-for-5th-edition-fantasy-roleplaying-0 archive

White Wolf once threatened to overtake D&D but has ultimately failed to do so. It was reorganized/dissolved twice, once in 2012 and later in 2018. The straw that broke the camels back was a controversy regarding “two new sourcebooks for Vampire: The Masquerade released by White Wolf, named Camarilla and Anarch. The latter contained sections which called those who committed suicide “weak” and a included posts from a “Mommy Vampire” social media group with controversial posts, including one that talked about feeding vampire blood to babies.” More egregiously was the recent “real-world torture, imprisonment, and execution of gay men first reported in 2017 was part of this cover-up of vampire activities.” Which pissed off gays, Russians, and the Chechen Republic.

Paizo: Paizo was initially Paizo Publishing. They made magazines for Wizards until 2008. However their main product, pathfinder, took off when D&D launched the unpopular 4th edition. Their version of the game, some called it 3.75 or 3.P. They came out with a second edition which ticked off some 3.5 loyalists. They also have Starfinder and generally are more progressive. This can be a bit lulzy since some of the hardcore 3.5 fans are not very PC.

Privateer Press: Is based in Washington. They were the go to company for fans angry with 40k. However due to no play testing, banning dissidents who brought up issues with the game, logistical issues, a failed kickfundme video game campaign, and the general positive reception of 8th edition they’re all but dead now.
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Creator & Misc Cows:
Alex Harrison (archive of Dakka Dakka threads): Gets caught cheating on a livestream (archive). Is infamous for being WAAC: Win at all costs, including cheating.

Art of War & Brohammer: Abuses ITC/tournament format in an attempt to boost their ratings. It is partially an attempt to make them look better because they sell 40k lessons. LMAO. Following images come from Dakka Dakka:
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Anna Kreider (archive of Farms OP): Also known as "The Wicked Witch of Gaming." Abusive, unapologetic misandrist currently crowdfunding her double mastectomy. She is a misanthropic Swerf whose clearly mentally ill and incapable of managing her rage. She frequently rants about women who are better looking than her, about how she hates and is scared of men, and if left to her own devices will make games about dying of cancer, humiliating males, and fighting against her depiction of toxic masculinity. @Yaoi Huntress Earth is an expert on her and once made her meltdown by telling her that her art was subpar.
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Bryon Hall (archive of 1d4chan article): Is the creator of the infamous game F.A.T.A.L. Which he dubbed the most historically accurate game, which is code for needlessly complex. It’s really his magical realm: the game. It got dumped on by RPG.net in this review (archive). He wrote a lengthy response/sperg post to the criticism his game received (archive).FC094B89-EB63-4A2A-B9B5-382788816455.png92278E24-72CF-4C55-8886-4ACACC7FB1F0.jpegAC578B98-E251-4234-B9FD-0D681D0551C1.jpegAE6A0F1B-1779-49B9-9A21-338EBF5E2DD3.pngB5478EA5-CD0F-4A69-B428-A9A77D40B756.png

Chuck Wendig (archive): Started with White Wolf, serving as irrefutable evidence to White Wolf being a den of autism and spergery. Then started writing some of the worst Star Wars books in existence, which is saying something. @damian wrote the OP and knows a lot about him.
Daniel D. Fox: He helped make the second edition of Warhammer and then tried to make Zweihander (archive). He CONSTANTLY shills his game but also is well known for using copyright strikes and opposing rpg archives, which makes it hard to play old and out of print games which aren't sold anywhere. So, whatever you do, don't pirate his game or encourage others to do it, he is not afraid of suing people and will throw hissy fits, so don't pirate his game and don't distribute it. Whatever you do, don't google his game or search for it on pirate or archive sites. He will also pretend to be based or woke, depending on who he is trying to shill his stuff too. He's become buddies with Zoey Quinn. Presumably they bonded over taking cash from nerds.
David Hill (archive): Former Onyx Path writer turned narcissist/ dangerhaired troon. Surprisingly, has an outspoken Twitter account. His passion project, iHunt, is basically r/LateStageCaptialism: The Game. For most of his life he was a WHITE MALE which he now refers to as the devil, being a beautiful woman. He wrote Beast - The Primordial (archive ): The game by a male feminist (archive), for male feminists! It's basically about how monsters like Hydra and Dragons are misunderstood. Also includes Gaymergate and MAGA references! She still writes like an angry 14 year old boy and attempts to criticize things she's never seen, like Star Wars. Madam Hill, being a prick, is not surprisingly also a transhumanist. @BlueArmedDevil is our expert on Hill's antics.
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Matt McFarland: another writer of Beast - The Primordial. Surprisingly ended up harassing minors.
Matt Ward: Is less active now as a cow but wrote some of the most unbalanced codices in 4th and 5th edition. Made a lot of fans hate Ultramarines. Gets a-logged to this day by those who don't recognize the majesty of Guilliman's magnificent return thanks to his space elf waifu.

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Mike Mearls (archive): The hyper woke co-designer of 5th edition. Also the lead developer of 4th edition. Helped for a time on Baldur's gates. He hates modular systems and thinks people who play it are assholes. He also believes women are incapable of playing complex rule sets, doing math, or being familiar with literature.
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Phil 'goatboy' Brucato (archive): Yet another White Wolf writer. (Where the fuck did they find these guys?) known by the aliases 'goatfucker' or 'Satyros.' Like other White Wolf writers he's batshit insane. A significant portion of White Wolf's indulgant bullshit and creeper fetish shit can be traced to this loon. He's a wonky paganist who believes his works are a form of chaos magic that becomes reality. Emperor knows what that means when he created furries Changing Breeds. White Wolf made a 'parody' of him, which can barely qualify as such considering its accuracy.
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Rev Kenneth Malyneaux: Not related to the other cows with the same last name. Wrote an incomplete and cringe white supremacist rpg called Racial Holy War (archive). Is literally a cultist. He has a blog (archive). The SPLC, I know they’re not always popular since they’re considered to be grifters, actually did a decent write up (archive) on them. He also wrote a novel “dedicated to the white race.”
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Sources and Social Media
You can find some craziness at the links below. Kickstarter & IndieGoGo is a good place to start as well as /tg/. A lot of lolcow creators try to shill there.
http://company.wizards.com/
https://www.games-workshop.com/
https://1d4chan.org/
http://boards.4chan.org/tg/catalog
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/
https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/total-war-warhammer
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/
https://paizo.com/community/forums&page=2
https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?action=forum
http://forums.spacebattles.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/
https://www.facebook.com/warhammer40000uk/
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerOfficial/
https://m.twitch.tv/warhammer/profile
https://www.youtube.com/user/GamesWorkshopWNT
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Games-Toys/Wizards-of-the-Coast-540208589333239/
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/warhammer-40000
https://archive.md/wip/FA4lz
https://www.rpg.net/
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Games_Workshop#Age_Of_Skubmar:_The_Great_Derpening
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dungeons_&_Dragons

Thanks @Wallace @Imperial Citizen @Inquisitor_BadAss @Syaoran Li @Burning Fanatic
@gangweedfan @Reverend
@JP's_Canadian_Cider @Emperor Julian @Yaoi Huntress Earth @Love_Machine011
for helping me so far! Also I apologize if I forgot to thank someone that helped!
 

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NerdShamer

International Glownigger Commander
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About rpgnet, it's currently anything that remotely resembles colonialism is asking for a forum ban, along with the "orcs" are racist spiel.


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They also shadowbanned one of their writers, but I need to trawl our thread for his name.

Edit: Here it is.

But anyways, they think ICE is a terrorist organization, Trump is literally worse than Hitler, trannies are at risk from dying because of him, and a recent change has them defending Native Americans.
 
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Burning Fanatic

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I feel like I’m getting this weird sense of dèjá vu. Could’ve sworn somebody else tried to write up a similar OP about a bunch of lawsuits and misc drama happening in the tabletop community, though IIRC, it was far more focused on a particular individual.

Before I give this a read, I would recommend adjusting your formatting. Spoilers should be mainly used for censoring NSFW media or condensing additional materials. You should avoid hiding the main bulk of your subject matter behind unnecessary spoilers. Your remaining images should be added to the OP and not be left as stray attachments. I’d lastly suggest against having additional comments used to expand your OP, as you should instead aim to condense the OP itself.

All that said, props for being thorough with all the information given. I’ll try and give my feedback soon once I give it a full read-through.
 

IAmNotAlpharius

For the Emperor!
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I feel like I’m getting this weird sense of dèjá vu. Could’ve sworn somebody else tried to write up a similar OP about a bunch of lawsuits and misc drama happening in the tabletop community, though IIRC, it was far more focused on a particular individual.

Before I give this a read, I would recommend adjusting your formatting. Spoilers should be mainly used for censoring NSFW media or condensing additional materials. You should avoid hiding the main bulk of your subject matter behind unnecessary spoilers. Your remaining images should be added to the OP and not be left as stray attachments. I’d lastly suggest against having additional comments used to expand your OP, as you should instead aim to condense the OP itself.

All that said, props for being thorough with all the information given. I’ll try and give my feedback soon once I give it a full read-through.
I’ll clean it up. Believe it or not I tried to condense it but I reached a point where I felt like I just needed more eyes to parse through it. I’ll work on condensing it further tomorrow evening. I can remove a lot more of the comments, I should probably be more neutral, and I should reduce anything that already has a thread to a sentence or two (Jeremy, MagicsGate, etc). I can also turn the timeline into an image that’s a bit more readable.

Someone else may have tried something similar. I feel like there has been a lot of drama recently and I meant to make a thread when the arch drama happened and later when the “orcs are racist” debate exploded. I feel like more Sperging is inevitable.

Thanks for the feedback!
 
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Dick Justice

カウドッゴは皆がどこへ行ったかしらー
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I feel like I’m getting this weird sense of dèjá vu. Could’ve sworn somebody else tried to write up a similar OP about a bunch of lawsuits and misc drama happening in the tabletop community, though IIRC, it was far more focused on a particular individual.

Before I give this a read, I would recommend adjusting your formatting. Spoilers should be mainly used for censoring NSFW media or condensing additional materials. You should avoid hiding the main bulk of your subject matter behind unnecessary spoilers. Your remaining images should be added to the OP and not be left as stray attachments. I’d lastly suggest against having additional comments used to expand your OP, as you should instead aim to condense the OP itself.

All that said, props for being thorough with all the information given. I’ll try and give my feedback soon once I give it a full read-through.
Are you thinking of the RPGnet forums?
 

REGENDarySumanai

Wiggin' out!
Local Moderator
True & Honest Fan
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As big a neckbeard as I am, I have to agree that this is an autistic salt mine that we need to tap into more.
The problem with doing this is that there are just so many sources of autism, it's difficult to keep an eye on all of them.
5th edition D&D is a magnificent source of autism because it's baby's first tabletop rpg.
 

Mr. Manchester

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Tricky thing about finding good D&D mongoloids is that they're all locally centralized. Everyone has their own 'That Guy' story to share but they're usually a groups personal lolcow and never hit the big time. I played with this weirdo once who said he wanted to start a youtube channel with puppets, but to know my knowledge he never did.

I think people trying to be the next Critical Role may be a good source of entertainment. I'd be willing to bet that roll20.com has some interesting people skulking around too.
 

Inquisitor_BadAss

The only person who fell for Nulls April fools
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Arch Warhammer like all who delve into political commentary is his own worst enemy. The fact he believed his email campaign had any effect after the warhammer is for everyone post. GW completely ignored his and his fans. At the time of his pointless letter writing campaign Games Workshop was dealing with the fallout of another poorly handled release.
Not long before his fruitless endeavour a box set called Indomitus was released to start the 9th edition of 40K only for nearly every box set to be bought by scalpers and sold on eBay for double if not triple the price.
To put that in perspective the RRP for the box was £125 and the factions were often split and costing anywhere up to £90 each from what I saw.
GW did step in and eBay removed almost all listing for the box set as well as split versions and individual models. They also announced a second release which arrived in individual stores in December or could be purchased on Games Workshops own website.

So yes Arch well done you achieved nothing.
 

Burning Fanatic

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True & Honest Fan
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I’ll clean it up. Believe it or not I tried to condense it but I reached a point where I felt like I just needed more eyes to parse through it. I’ll work on condensing it further tomorrow evening. I can remove a lot more of the comments, I should probably be more neutral, and I should reduce anything that already has a thread to a sentence or two (Jeremy, MagicsGate, etc). I can also turn the timeline into an image that’s a bit more readable.

Someone else may have tried something similar. I feel like there has been a lot of drama recently and I meant to make a thread when the arch drama happened and later when the “orcs are racist” debate exploded. I feel like more Sperging is inevitable.

Thanks for the feedback!
When in doubt, it’s best to sum things up in 1-2 sentences and then add a hyperlink to the topic for anyone who’s curious to learn more. Whenever I write about a cow or individual that was involved in some drama, I briefly sum up the drama and then focus on how said individual was involved. That way it keeps thing on topic, especially for readers that are already familiar.

Looking back on it, I believe this might have been the thread I was thinking of. Or maybe there was another one that was more about CW, and I got those confused. Needless to say, I’m not surprised that there’s a lot of drama to write about for the RPG communities.
@Dick Justice

Anyway, lmk when the changes are made, particularly for the spoilers and stray attachments, and I’ll then give it a read.
 

Kanuckski

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The Warhammer Community absolutely fascinates me. I moderated a relativity large 40k community and it was very interesting to see the factions interact or secretly snark on each other. It's a massive clusterfuck that required an ironfist and strict rules to carve out anything resembling a functional community that wasn't full of poltispergs or so called Sigmarxists. I had attained my position after the struggle to maintain the server from not being consumed by community of spergs was largely over and most people "got" the culture of the server. I remember a very young person joining the server who was clearly very serious about painting their Spacemarines with a trans flag colour scheme and giving them all female names, regardless of what they were told. The collective pussy footing around the issue was hilarious. Nobody wanted to bad talk this retarded idea because they didn't want the Sigmarxists to catch scent and start a fight. On the other hand no one wanted to praise the idea because even the Sigmarxists knew this was dumb. and they didn't wanted boomercons to catch scent of them praising it.

But even with that resolved the daily ongoing was dominated by a very malevolent force, the British. I probably had stronger feelings about the British entering the community that they had made than you have on Syrian immigrants entering your country. I recall one such British "person" making mention of wearing paper towels on their head when they wore headphones to ensure the oil from their hair didn't get on their headphones. This was to compensate the fact they only showered every three days at best. The average British person who joined was effectively faux fans because they were fifteen years old and couldn't afford GW's models and sure as hell weren't buying up the books to read either. All they knew were decades old memes and by god was that all they contributed at every single waking moment.

The 40K community is a massively untapped goldmine of autism that's at its best outside of spheres dominated by a specific political leaning. I think my favorite moment was when someone very passionately argued the solution against the seeping corruption of the Eye of Terror (basically a reality breaking blackhole of all-encompassing evil that was a two-way entrance to and from hell)
was for every Imperial world to construct a massive iron dome around it to prevent people from looking at it and in turn getting corrupted. The problems with this idea are clear but the fact the reality breaking blackhole of hell could break reality and be seen in the sky through solid objects was of little concern. You'd think these people are trolls but they are very real and they are legion and coming to a community near you.
 

Syaoran Li

Lord, I was born a ramblin' man
True & Honest Fan
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Looking forward to this thread.

I'm honestly surprised that White Wolf and Onyx Path didn't make the cut. If you need more info on them, I'll be glad to help.

World of Darkness is a whole beast in and of itself. The drama surrounding White Wolf and its successors is a really interesting story.

In the 90's, White Wolf was the second-biggest RPG company ever and was primed to become the top dog as TSR was in its infamous death spiral period under Lorraine Williams. The early World of Darkness games are actually pretty good even today and they were genuinely groundbreaking back in the 90's but White Wolf's a textbook example of a fall from grace.

Vampire: The Masquerade was the only game to have ever come close to outselling D&D until Pathfinder 1E actually did it. Of course, Pathfinder 1E started out as a glorified clone of D&D 3.5 and this was during the 4E days, often considered D&D's lowest point.

Nowadays White Wolf is a dead husk and the different successor groups are all a weird mix of pretentious unironic SJW's who hate damn near everything (Onyx Path) or are practically dead in and of themselves (By Night Studios)
 

Inquisitor_BadAss

The only person who fell for Nulls April fools
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Looking forward to this thread.

I'm honestly surprised that White Wolf and Onyx Path didn't make the cut. If you need more info on them, I'll be glad to help.

World of Darkness is a whole beast in and of itself. The drama surrounding White Wolf and its successors is a really interesting story.

In the 90's, White Wolf was the second-biggest RPG company ever and was primed to become the top dog as TSR was in its infamous death spiral period under Lorraine Williams. The early World of Darkness games are actually pretty good even today and they were genuinely groundbreaking back in the 90's but White Wolf's a textbook example of a fall from grace.

Vampire: The Masquerade was the only game to have ever come close to outselling D&D until Pathfinder 1E actually did it. Of course, Pathfinder 1E started out as a glorified clone of D&D 3.5 and this was during the 4E days, often considered D&D's lowest point.

Nowadays White Wolf is a dead husk and the different successor groups are all a weird mix of pretentious unironic SJW's who hate damn near everything (Onyx Path) or are practically dead in and of themselves (By Night Studios)
I don’t know if it’s just bong land but I’ve never seen VtM on shelves in the stores I’ve been in. It’s almost all high fantasy or some flavour of Sci-fi.

So anybody who’s played 40K May have heard of an event called the London GT. This infamous little event is probably considered one of the worst events held by an independent organiser and here’s a little breakdown of one players experience.


Anybody who plays will tell you how the table and miniatures look are all part of the experience and could potentially make or break a game for them. The organisers said there would be seven pieces of terrain for every table and even posted updates on their Facebook page for participants. While most large scale events will start their boards months in advanced the London GT organisers started on terrain a mere ten days before hand
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Now those number may look impressive on screen how ever nine days later they post this update showing terrain being packed and ready to go.
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But as anybody with a working set of eyes can see most of it is in fact unpainted which lead to most tables looking like this.

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Terrain blog here

The London GT eventually acknowledged they had issues with the terrain but not for another five months when they announced a partnership with a company called TTcombat


The 2019 event (yes they had the brass ones to hold another) apparently went of without a hitch and the rest is down to the coof.
 

IAmNotAlpharius

For the Emperor!
True & Honest Fan
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I don’t know if it’s just bong land but I’ve never seen VtM on shelves in the stores I’ve been in. It’s almost all high fantasy or some flavour of Sci-fi.

So anybody who’s played 40K May have heard of an event called the London GT. This infamous little event is probably considered one of the worst events held by an independent organiser and here’s a little breakdown of one players experience.


Anybody who plays will tell you how the table and miniatures look are all part of the experience and could potentially make or break a game for them. The organisers said there would be seven pieces of terrain for every table and even posted updates on their Facebook page for participants. While most large scale events will start their boards months in advanced the London GT organisers started on terrain a mere ten days before hand
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Now those number may look impressive on screen how ever nine days later they post this update showing terrain being packed and ready to go.
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But as anybody with a working set of eyes can see most of it is in fact unpainted which lead to most tables looking like this.


Terrain blog here

The London GT eventually acknowledged they had issues with the terrain but not for another five months when they announced a partnership with a company called TTcombat


The 2019 event (yes they had the brass ones to hold another) apparently went of without a hitch and the rest is down to the coof.
Ooof. Yes! I heard of them! I also knew someone who mentioned a similar incident with a tournament in Spain. They literally had no terrain or very pathetic terrain, just like this.


OP 2.0 @Burning Fanatic

I think I did a better job this time around being concise, I can always be more detailed later... what do you think of this one? I also cleaned up the op too by removing some commentary and some quotes.


Tabletop Gaming Community Watch

Do you have any local That Guys you would like to talk about? Are there particular moments in /tg/ history or other forum lore that you’re familiar with? Are there any YouTubers, sub-reddits, forums, or tabletop groups that are autistic? If you know of any, feel free to post about them here!

Tabletop Gaming: What is it?​

Tabletop gaming broadly refers to boardgames, role playing games, and miniature wargaming. There are forums, subreddits, and boards dedicated to tabletop or traditional gaming and even to specific games, factions, or strategies. On 4chan, the primary board for discussing traditional or tabletop gaming is /tg/ which has its own wiki called 1d4chan. Depending on the type of game, the amount of time, effort, and money that is required to get into the hobby can vary greatly. Board games such as Risk, Settlers of Catan, or Monopoly will have more mainstream recognition and casual fanbase but will still have some interesting and diehard fans. Generally, the more time, money, and complexity is involved, the fanbase will be more niche, dedicated, and autistic. Some hobbies involve not only complex rulesets, but also multipart unpainted model kits. Not surprisingly these hobbies are greater sources of drama and lulz.

I did a more in-depth explanation on the history of tabletop here (I wasn't sure if we are going to make a new thread or if this would replace the op or what):

Sources of Lulz:​

There are a few different elements of tabletop hobbies that one can derive drama and lulz. The most prominent sources are generally content creators – ie bloggers and YouTubers, and their fans. These content creators exist on not just the autistic spectrum but also one between politics and hobby discussion. Some legitimately want to be known just for their gaming and other interests, it just so happens that a lot of autists agree with them. Others are known for their lore content and in-depth knowledge and unfortunately can’t stop themselves from spilling heir spaghetti whenever politics comes up. Some of these individuals already have threads such as Sargon of Akkad. Others frequently associate with Sargon or white knight him, the most prominent being Arch Warhammer.

Arch: Was mad about a corporate statement. Started a letter writing campaign. Thought he won, didn’t realize he was just autistic, and GW was trying to be as diplomatic as possible. He was the center of the Warhammer is for Everyone! controversy. Some memed it, while other of his viewers flipped out.

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There were of course multiple threads on /tg/ regarding the issue.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/73773517
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Arch also flipped out about a Black Ultramarine. He ignored that white primarchs could have black space marines, one of the most notable examples being the Celestial Lions. Another aspect is that most of the chapters recruit from all ethnicities, with one of the exceptions being the White Scars, who were looked down upon for it. His main concern was that GW was placating to SJWs and imo he was just being autistic and not recognizing what was a very corporate statement. I’ll give him credit though for not just deleting dissenting comments like a lot of other youtubers would have. Still, I think it was a weird thing for him to do since he previously mentioned he was ok with brown or black marines and it really isn't that big of a deal. Despite this, he's normally on point with his lore and even people who disagree with him will recognize his ability to recall obscure conflicts and their wider implications in the 40k universe. Like if you're interested in 40k lore and want to know more, his channel is a good resource, but just know that he also spergs about politics since he's literally autistic.

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https://youtu.be/4AffacpSJJI
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111201552/https://youtu.be/4AffacpSJJI

Commissar Gamza: He doesn’t really do political videos like arch and mostly sticks to lore and hobby stuff, occasionally he brings up religion and is conservative, so a lot of posters on woke sites hate him. He could end up becoming super spergy later, but more likely people would be triggered by some small thing he did. I can’t find the video, but I think he even disagreed with arch on the Black ultramarine debate. I wouldn’t consider him a lolcow currently, but I can see him going crazy, and some of his fans are definitely lolcows. I swear he was spergier when he was younger but I can't find some of the really funny content, I think he deleted it when he matured and realized how goofy it made him look. He could regress one day.

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Critical Role: They are livestreamers that play 5e which is considered easier and watered down. They are all voice actors and essentially, it’s improv with D&D. They have a lot of fans and haters. Both can be cringy. Some made a group called Mercer’s Magnificent Mind and they have a lot of nu-nerd fans (I won’t say all, but a lot) that get on other people’s nerves, often because they want to copy Critical Role and are more interested in the drama aspect – many were drama kids in High School – than the gaming side of things. Again, I wouldn’t consider Matt to be a lolcow but his fanbase is autistic and so are their loudest detractors. The latter can meme at least though and the former are generally way worse with the exception of a few a-logs.
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Flashgitz: They do a lot of dark humor and their channel is a reference to an Ork unit in 40k. They did a few 40k videos but were DMCA'd. The new GW is cool so they' let them make videos on purging Slaanesh cultists. This sometimes attracts a-logs and sometimes it pisses off furries for some reason. You can rest assured that their fanbase would make the Emperor proud.


Neckbeardia: Does a lot of videos based on reddit comments, wiki articles, fan submissions, and memes. It’s fanbase is pretty autistic and surprisingly their discord was zucc’d. They’re definitely right leaning and many are also furries or scalies. They cover a lot of nerdy lolcows though and go over a lot of /tg/ green text stories. They sell their own minis like the sample below:

https://www.youtube.com/c/Neckbeardia/community https://www.facebook.com/Neckbeardia-114607180259714/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NeckbeardiaYT/

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Sargon’s Thread: Sargon is a warhammer fan but his focus is generally politics. He has a thread already but he'll likely prop up again.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/carl-...-the-thinkery-not_sargon-warplanpurple.18267/

Snipe and Wib: a couple that is left wing and at times pitches support for lgbtq causes. Their focus is generally on gaming, but they bring up some left wing causes every now and then. I like their reviews of older codices and models, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they had crazy fans or went off the deep end eventually, they’re like Commisar Gamza in that regard. For now I wouldn’t count them as lolcows, but I suspect some of their hardcore fans are.

Unsleeved Media/Jeremy’s Thread: I wouldn’t consider him a gamer youtuber so much as a grifter that is into clickbait. He constantly tries to start new -gates and has tried to start Warhammer gate despite not being into Warhammer at all.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jeremy-hambly-unsleeved-media-mtgheadquarters.37794/

Another major source of both drama and lulz are power gamers often referred to as That Guy. That Guy is an asshole with Cheeto fingers who touches others models and books without any self awareness. That guy eats up all the snacks while contributing nothing. That Guy will try to create the cheesiest army or build and will have a meltdown when things don’t go his way. Every hobby shop and community will have That Guy and That Guy is always a local lolcow that people try to avoid whenever possible. Chris Chan in fact is one of the best examples of That Guy and was That Guy for the Game Place, before being banned from it. This thread is meant to also document That Guy in all his iterations, along with all the other drama, happenings, and lulz the community produces. They also frequently cheat and take gaming way too seriously. I have a few That Guy stories to tell, but I’ll do it later in the thread.

Another major source of lulz are the meme and fan communities that form organically. Although Sargon, Arch, and Neckbeardia have their own official and unofficial discords, there are meme pages ran on Facebook, Reddit, and elsewhere that consistently produce lulz -intentionally or unintentionally. Some can occasionally be funny but often are cringe like the Meme Ravens. Others are the embodiment of Left-Wing Memes like Sigmarxism. It’s exactly what it sounds like, basically fans of an expensive and therefore bourgeois hobby, that unironically support communism, not realizing they’d be amongst the first shot in a communist regime. Their memes not only involve larping not unlike ADF, but are wordy, unfunny dribble. Previously forums like warsseer were hotbeds of rumor mongering and essentially proto-SJWs that would happily ban anyone for not drinking the Kool aid. Essentially, they were kinda like Neogaf but for Warhammer. They’re now an empty shell of themselves. Dakka Dakka is a fun site but it often gets into drama because it has more Win At All Cost players than some other sites and often gets into debates about semantics, usually when someone wants to interpret a certain rule very favorably, then bitches when a FAQ drops and solidifies the intention of the rule that 99% of the other player base understood correctly the whole time.

Ambiguous Alpha Legion Memes: Funny when not serious. Were probably alt-right but would flip flop sometimes. Caused A LOT of salt. Got zucc’d. Or were they?! Were anti-SJW. Hate sigmarxism with a passion.
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(Blood) Meme Ravens: They often a-log conservative youtubers but they can actually make funny posts. Sent to Facebook jail multiple times for lewd posting. Will get zucc'd for that reason eventually. https://www.facebook.com/thememeravens https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TheMemeRavens

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Bolter and Chainsword: A forum for marine and chaos marine fans. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/

Dakka Dakka: Based on orks, I like it, but it has its moments. https://www.dakkadakka.com/

Sigmarxism: They take hobbying very seriously and are convinced they’re fighting fascism. They’re never funny intentionally. They also love the grot revolutionaries from the game Gorkamorka. https://www.reddit.com/r/Sigmarxism/

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/tg/ the containment board for Warhammer. Back in the day there were slapfights between Warhammer fans and furries. The Warhammer sperging on /b/ led to the creation of the board, which was also meant to discuss other tabletop games. It’s frequently the center of a lot of drama. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/ is where you can find archived posts.

Warhammer for Grownups: Started as a page meant for mature individuals. What this meant varied. Some wanted to talk about politics (left or right) others just wanted to focus on Warhammer. It ended up splintering because some were convinced they opposed Free Speech.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/167784630036265

Warhammer 40 k for Adults: started as a group to get away from snowflakes, cucks, and naturally encourage free speech. It’s a break off of Warhammer for Grown Ups which tried to be apolitical and thus were opposed to free speech. At its inception it was incredibly cringe and quickly devolved into infighting and uneven banning which resulted in several splinter groups, many of which were zucc’d. It’s not so bad now but it devolves into drama occasionally.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/237880526402718

Warseer: It was home to a lot of rumormongers. It focuses a lot on fluff, rumors, etc. It’s not my favorite site and I used to hate it, but I pity it now because it’s been hacked and has gone down a few times for long stretches of time. It never has really recovered.

Yet another source of lulz are the companies themselves. I’d argue that currently Wizards of the Coast is the biggest lolcow. It has repeatedly made lots of attempts to placate itself to SJWs, failing to placate them, and in the process ticking off their non-SJW fans. Previously, Games Workshop was the biggest lolcow company that made poor decision after poor decision. They sued a woman for using the term Space Marine and also mostly lost a lolsuit to someone that was clearly ripping off their ip. They then decided to nix one of their less popular ips which resulted in a fan revolt. Some fans burned their minis, others screeched directly at investors, and sales plummeted. This actually worked for once and the old CEO was fired, and GW changed directions. Sometimes lolcows are employees of the company. One of the most notable is Matt Ward.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Tom_Kirby
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward
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Like any company, there are also white knights, generally journalists trying to get early access. When it comes to gaming one of the most trolled and hated sites is Bell of Lost Souls. They’re owned by Lauro Vela who is the senior editor and president. BOLS is located at 5709 KELI COURT AUSTIN, TX 78735 and their mailing address is 1500 VILLANOVA DR, AUSTIN, TX, 78757. Their phone number is 5126330934. https://www.facebook.com/larry.vela. https://www.youtube.com/c/belloflostsouls/featured

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The last source of lulz are anti-fans. Essentially individuals who really hate a particular hobby or company. The most famous example of this are the fundamentalist Christians that believed D&D caused suicides, led to satanism, and taught kids magic.

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These individuals still exist but are a lot rarer and can largely be blamed for the rise of fedora tippers. The following is from a blog that was published 20 years after the initial scare.

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https://www.chick.com/Information/article?id=Straight-Talk-On-Dungeons-and-Dragons
https://archive.md/fQF3P

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They are still memed about to this day even though they are a fraction of their former influence. More recently, anti-fans are those that believe orcs are racist against blacks, even though orcs are generally depicted as being like Northern or Eastern Europeans and living in mountainous and snowy environments. Others include PETA which thought that it was unfitting for animal skins to be depicted in Warhammer 40k despite the fact that sentient beings are regularly killed, raped, and flayed onto armor (and if they’re lucky in that order).

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"This bad." = PETA

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"This ok." - PETA

GW responds:
https://regimental-standard.com/2017/02/08/fur-the-emperor/
https://archive.md/fOoFF

Matt Ward dunks on PETA:
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Another group of anti-fans are those that ran off to an alternate brand but continue to a-log their former preferred brand. This is very common amongst Paizo and Mantic fans. Paizo was made when WotC created 4th edition and ticked off the 3rd edition fanboys. Mantic was made in response to the high cost of GW fantasy models, in particular their undead, orcs, and other mob armies. Since they sold cheaper minis, it was easier for people to field larger groups. However, they often a-log GW while also white knighting their new favored company.

Other Cows with a thread
Existing Cows: thanks @Wallace for pointing them out!
Can we include references to some of our already documented cows?

RPGNet: RPGNet is to tabletop what NeoGAF is to vidya. Humorless wokescolds who hate fun almost as much as they hate Donald Trump despite getting caught hosting multiple rapey sex pests in their mod corps.

David Hill: Former Onyx Path writer turned narcissist/ dangerhaired troon. His passion project, iHunt, is basically r/LateStageCaptialism: The Game.

Anna Kreider: Abusive, unapologetic misandrist currently crowdfunding her double mastectomy.

Our own tabletop thread, which has hosted a few moments of absurdity over the years.

We should also include James Desborough, a.k.a. the RPG Pundit and his insane ramblings about how people keep playing tabletop the wrong way.


Causes:​

The tldr explanation is autism. There is more to it than that of course but often it is due to political disagreements. Neckbeards are more likely to have radical or obscure positions and often hate a particular political position. Thus, any discussion of politics will derail a thread and sometimes the entire forum, discord, or group. Other major causes are various manifestations of autism such as extreme competitiveness, faction fanboys, white knighting the company/brand, a-logging neckbeards, skub, and trolling. There’s also always been a debate between realism and simplification, this debate literally goes back to the Prussians who practically invented Wargaming in the 1800s.

There's way more than I can cover in the OP, but there are plenty of minor lolcows, youtubers, sites, reddits, forums, pages, blogs, and historical happenings, that can take up a thread.
 

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Can we include references to some of our already documented cows?

RPGNet: RPGNet is to tabletop what NeoGAF is to vidya. Humorless wokescolds who hate fun almost as much as they hate Donald Trump despite getting caught hosting multiple rapey sex pests in their mod corps.

David Hill: Former Onyx Path writer turned narcissist/ dangerhaired troon. His passion project, iHunt, is basically r/LateStageCaptialism: The Game.

Anna Kreider: Abusive, unapologetic misandrist currently crowdfunding her double mastectomy.

Our own tabletop thread, which has hosted a few moments of absurdity over the years.

We should also include James Desborough, a.k.a. the RPG Pundit and his insane ramblings about how people keep playing tabletop the wrong way.
 

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