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Agarathium1066

My sense of balance is busted.
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What do you mean by recently? I played all through Mark 2 but after their non-playtested Mark 3 where they made Protectorate and Trollblood unplayable and basically let Khador and Circle run even more wild than before I haven't been paying attention.
I believe it was around the launch of MK3, wuflu has made cash tight enough to casually drop money on any of their books but its hard to not notice local shops shrinking the PP figure section even before it went off. Apologies for vagueness I'm not familiar enough personally.
 

SITHRAK!

ESL teenager spouting gibberish and angry words.
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Proper tabletop or even more freeform roleplay people never get this, they expect you to roll out a fine velvet carpet & then tell them in exhaustive levels of all its details.

Is there a post in this thread explaining how Warmahordes shat the bed recently or does anyone have any info on that? I got into it for a short while and played a few games only to find its presence shrinking exponentially in my LGS.
Models kept getting bigger and more expensive, switched to shitty resin from manly pewter, got sidetracked with Hordes, and fell victim to power creep and ruleset tinkering. Oh and they fucked up distro of new models, meaning most places outside the US couldn’t buy in to new edition even if they wanted to.
I saw the writing on the wall somewhere between Hordes and the change to resin. Every single TTWG I love has fallen victim to retarded compulsive ruleset tinkering. Necromunda, 40k, Flames of War, Warmachine, Malifaux, the list goes on.
Only Mordheim stands proud and true, as the hilariously flawed masterpiece it was born to be.
 

EnemyStand

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Models kept getting bigger and more expensive, switched to shitty resin from manly pewter, got sidetracked with Hordes, and fell victim to power creep and ruleset tinkering. Oh and they fucked up distro of new models, meaning most places outside the US couldn’t buy in to new edition even if they wanted to.
I saw the writing on the wall somewhere between Hordes and the change to resin. Every single TTWG I love has fallen victim to retarded compulsive ruleset tinkering. Necromunda, 40k, Flames of War, Warmachine, Malifaux, the list goes on.
Only Mordheim stands proud and true, as the hilariously flawed masterpiece it was born to be.
Malifaux isn't that bad. I've gotten an inside track on some of the stuff Wyrd was doing and they're listening less to the Eurospergs who were causing a lot of the problems with the rule sets and errata. Regardless of your feelings on 3E it's a lot easier to get new people in with the Keyword crew building.
 

SITHRAK!

ESL teenager spouting gibberish and angry words.
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Malifaux isn't that bad. I've gotten an inside track on some of the stuff Wyrd was doing and they're listening less to the Eurospergs who were causing a lot of the problems with the rule sets and errata. Regardless of your feelings on 3E it's a lot easier to get new people in with the Keyword crew building.
Still fucked off that Jakob Lynch is no longer Neverborn. Fucker (and hungering darkness) was the cornerstone of my NB lineup and I’ll be fucked if I weeb out and start playing 10T.
Edit: grammar sperging.
 

BlazikenLover

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I treat my players as human adults who can communicate verbally and respect them enough to talk with them as human adults.

X-cards and the like assume that the DM is just someone that spit out story lines and all the players children and no one knows how to talk to each other in a social environment, doesn't understand human boundaries, and doesn't respect the individual and their desires.
This is pretty much what failed with one of my old groups, the DM was a great storyteller, but also socially inept and emotionally stunted, he was also quick to feel insulted over any criticism, be it major or minor. He was a major railroader and your character would have little input on things, even on their personal stories, his campaigns felt more like books or story driven video games.
if you sat around each week and listened to his narration, good. If you brought up how you didn't like the way he was playing a certain NPC (the biggest example I can think of is running a patron we agreed it would have mysterious goals and would not evil, as a demon bent on destruction who pushed the player towards murder every single time), how you felt your character was irrelevant, concerns about railroading, etc then he would argue furiously or refuse to discuss with you (after getting the last word) in an attempt to avoid listening.
Meanwhile other DMs in the same situation would either reach out to the player to sort any concerns or do nothing yet gladly discuss it with the player if he/she brought it up and be very open to suggestions. I say some of the best games I have had (both as a DM and as a player) were thanks to constant collaboration between both parties, throwing ideas back and forth, suggesting changes to existing ideas, after all I don't play P&P RPGs for a story that's been set on the stone from the start. Oh and more importantly if there was a serious problem THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSS IT INSTEAD OF IGNORING IT, meaning that same problem would crop up over and over.

tl;dr people who can't communicate aren't fun.

This is the weirdest thing for me. For decades, RPG players have been made fun of as socially awkward and autistic. But this new crop of woketards, the soymen and dangerhairs who claim to be in tune with social mores and claim to be good at dealing with people, are just... far more autistic in their complete inability to communicate in a way that doesn't generate grievances.

Like, if the GM has stated that their campaign will have X, Y and Z themes, and these themes are dealbreakters to you, why the fuck are you still there? Seriously, this ideology doesn't protect autists and/or oppressed minorities, it creates them.

Biggest issue I've seen with them is that they refuse to listen, often over one of these reasons:
A) Disagreeing with them: can be over the pettiest shit like expressing slight distaste over the way they run combat encounters.
B) You once said something that does not align with lefty ideology and didn't apologize enough about it.
I don't know if this is caused by autism or narcissism, but I find it incredibly childish.
What made it all the more evident to me was noticing my group has people with lefty ideals who can still function despite knowing others ideals, meanwhile the idiots I described keep shunning people, even those who share some or most of their ideals.
 
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Reverend

Avatar of Change
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Meanwhile other DMs in the same situation would either reach out to the player to sort any concerns or do nothing yet gladly discuss it with the player if he/she brought it up and be very open to suggestions. I say some of the best games I have had (both as a DM and as a player) were thanks to constant collaboration between both parties, throwing ideas back and forth, suggesting changes to existing ideas, after all I don't play P&P RPGs for a story that's been set on the stone from the start. Oh and more importantly if there was a serious problem THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSS IT INSTEAD OF IGNORING IT, meaning that same problem would crop up over and over.

tl;dr people who can't communicate aren't fun.
the best ideas I've ever had in my games comes from the random shit that players throw out there in the spur of the moment and I seize it as Inspiration and run with it. Involving your Players in the game and collaborating has made the table a joy to be around. Sure it's my story but you have to leave enough wiggle room to toss in some Player Agency for random things and then everyone feels special.
 

Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest
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the best ideas I've ever had in my games comes from the random shit that players throw out there in the spur of the moment and I seize it as Inspiration and run with it. Involving your Players in the game and collaborating has made the table a joy to be around. Sure it's my story but you have to leave enough wiggle room to toss in some Player Agency for random things and then everyone feels special.
Are you saying playing RPGs, as a player or as a GM, is a matter of nuance?

How dare you. We don't use the n-word in Current Year anymore.
 

Inquisitor_BadAss

The only person who fell for Nulls April fools
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So the Pokemon TCG is in a rather interesting position at the moment. For this who are unaware prices of vintage product has skyrocketed recently thanks to none other then the antics of Jake Paul. You’ll probably remember he did a retro box opening of the 1st edition base set and paid over $200K for the box.
This has caused a ripple effect throughout the game peaking the interest of scalpers and combined with Kung Flu along with increased demand it is actually impossible for people to find Pokemon TCG products in any store. This shortage hasn’t just effected your typical gaming store but places like target and Walmart also have empty shelves.
This was especially evident with the most recent set release and the McDonalds happy meal promotion. In the USA there was also promo cards included inside boxes of cereal. Unsurprisingly people weren’t buying the cereal but just tearing boxes open in stores to get the promo cards to steal and sell on eBay for inflated prices.
This video has a pretty good break down of the timeline just try and ignore the oh so sad boo boo music looped in the background

Edit: A couple hours after posting this it appears the madness is following into the Final Fantasy TCG with boxes of the 11th set going for $500 - $600. This set was only released last year and only had one chase card.
 
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Wallace

Cram it in me, baby!
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It's impressive how you managed to make x-cards and the 5 page 'respecting player' corebook tangents were the author presumes the role of a gm is trauma therapist/insectional workshop as redundant in three paragraphs.
A lot of this bullshit has nothing to do with having fun/making good art and everything to do with preening for asspats. And it's gotten way, way worse in the last year.

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Emperor Julian

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A lot of this bullshit has nothing to do with having fun/making good art and everything to do with preening for asspats. And it's gotten way, way worse in the last year.

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What tickles me about this is that it's a complete waste of ink. Nobody who feels that way would play the game and even if they did you cannot stop them doing so. This is peak virtue signalling since its obviously written for the converted. This page could have been used to flesh out the settings.

thirsty sword lesbians is pretty much the poster boy for problems with this sort of stuff the book is a clunky bloated mess. It can't even decide if it wants to be a fun swashbuckling lgbt themed game or a morality play while also trying to be an intersectional workshop safe space.
 

Agarathium1066

My sense of balance is busted.
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A lot of this bullshit has nothing to do with having fun/making good art and everything to do with preening for asspats. And it's gotten way, way worse in the last year.

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One would think the title of this game system/rulebook would be the most laughable thing but somehow they've managed to top it. They somehow rocketed past 'Thirsty Sword Lesbians' which sounds like a joke title that /tg/ would brew up to make something intentionally bad.

Then they go onto this, the most blatant preaching to the choir I've ever seen despite having my share of experiences in 'woke' circles. Even better is the last one where they demand that you ask no questions and follow the rules without thought.

Pathetic.
 

Wallace

Cram it in me, baby!
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One would think the title of this game system/rulebook would be the most laughable thing but somehow they've managed to top it. They somehow rocketed past 'Thirsty Sword Lesbians' which sounds like a joke title that /tg/ would brew up to make something intentionally bad.

Then they go onto this, the most blatant preaching to the choir I've ever seen despite having my share of experiences in 'woke' circles. Even better is the last one where they demand that you ask no questions and follow the rules without thought.

Pathetic.
Thirsty Sword Lesbians is a game written by a group of bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, for bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, about a group of gay queer lesbians who go out and fight evil by flashing their tits to overwhelm evil with lust, make snarky one-liners until evil runs away crying, or just straight up murder evil with their penis surrogates, and then they go home to have frilly tea parties, cry about their emotions, and have a massive gay orgy.

I mean... I'm a gay man and I know more about women than all of these spergy troons put together.
 

Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest
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Thirsty Sword Lesbians is a game written by a group of bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, for bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, about a group of gay queer lesbians who go out and fight evil by flashing their tits to overwhelm evil with lust, make snarky one-liners until evil runs away crying, or just straight up murder evil with their penis surrogates, and then they go home to have frilly tea parties, cry about their emotions, and have a massive gay orgy.

I mean... I'm a gay man and I know more about women than all of these spergy troons put together.
Actually, has anyone here looked at the credits and checked who in the writing team is a troon and who's not? There can't be a lot of actual women who don't instinctively cringe at the premise characters setting everything about that RPG.
 

Wallace

Cram it in me, baby!
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Actually, has anyone here looked at the credits and checked who in the writing team is a troon and who's not? There can't be a lot of actual women who don't instinctively cringe at the premise characters setting everything about that RPG.

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Of the six people who contributed to the writing, four are troons and one is an enby. Only one natal woman.
 

Mother puss bucket

OC Do not steal
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So the Pokemon TCG is in a rather interesting position at the moment. For this who are unaware prices of vintage product has skyrocketed recently thanks to none other then the antics of Jake Paul. You’ll probably remember he did a retro box opening of the 1st edition base set and paid over $200K for the box.
This has caused a ripple effect throughout the game peaking the interest of scalpers and combined with Kung Flu along with increased demand it is actually impossible for people to find Pokemon TCG products in any store. This shortage hasn’t just effected your typical gaming store but places like target and Walmart also have empty shelves.
This was especially evident with the most recent set release and the McDonalds happy meal promotion. In the USA there was also promo cards included inside boxes of cereal. Unsurprisingly people weren’t buying the cereal but just tearing boxes open in stores to get the promo cards to steal and sell on eBay for inflated prices.
This video has a pretty good break down of the timeline just try and ignore the oh so sad boo boo music looped in the background

Edit: A couple hours after posting this it appears the madness is following into the Final Fantasy TCG with boxes of the 11th set going for $500 - $600. This set was only released last year and only had one chase card.
This is hitting all TCGs now. The scalpers woke up to how much money they can make on neckbeards playing TCGs. It will kill some games outright when the product is all scalped and no one wants to pay $300 for a chase rare they need for their deck.

A lot of this bullshit has nothing to do with having fun/making good art and everything to do with preening for asspats. And it's gotten way, way worse in the last year.

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I wonder how much of this has to do with the spiteful mutant theory. First generation game designers area really intelligent outcasts, the next generation is slightly dumber and the third generation is too stupid to design games but gets into the position any way. Instead of making games they use the platforms to discourage others from building the hobby up and innovating game design. You're left with sludge for brains who love 40k/star wars/harry potter because it's their childhoods but they're incapable of maintaining it so it collapses under their arm pit funk.

The way things are going gaming public events are going to become furry conventions. Older men will die out and freaks will take over using it as an excuse to wear a diaper and fursuit in public.
Models kept getting bigger and more expensive, switched to shitty resin from manly pewter, got sidetracked with Hordes, and fell victim to power creep and ruleset tinkering. Oh and they fucked up distro of new models, meaning most places outside the US couldn’t buy in to new edition even if they wanted to.
I saw the writing on the wall somewhere between Hordes and the change to resin. Every single TTWG I love has fallen victim to retarded compulsive ruleset tinkering. Necromunda, 40k, Flames of War, Warmachine, Malifaux, the list goes on.
Only Mordheim stands proud and true, as the hilariously flawed masterpiece it was born to be.
Games run out of design space and you have to admit it and move on. Warmachine ran out of space so they made giant expensive models (like GW). Once that space had dried up there was no where left to go. They refused to call it and move onto something else and the MK3 launch turned everyone off. Warmachine suffered with being too well put together for there to be room for home brewing. Adding a goblin tank to fantasy battle as a home brew is a fun convention event. Adding new models to Warmachine was impossible.
 

SITHRAK!

ESL teenager spouting gibberish and angry words.
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Thirsty Sword Lesbians is a game written by a group of bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, for bitter incels who watch too much porn and LARP as women, about a group of gay queer lesbians who go out and fight evil by flashing their tits to overwhelm evil with lust, make snarky one-liners until evil runs away crying, or just straight up murder evil with their penis surrogates, and then they go home to have frilly tea parties, cry about their emotions, and have a massive gay orgy.
I remember tabletop gaming in the 80's and 90's, where 'Macho Women With Guns' and its supplement 'Renegade Nuns on Wheels' were spoken of in hushed, reverent tones. Fun fucking games with a tongue planted firmly in cheek, where not-Ellen Ripley. not-Red Sonja and not-Sarah Connor teamed up to battle Isaac Azathoth for the fate of whothefuckcares. I remember HOL (Human Occupied Landfill), a hilarious pizza-cutter game (all edge, no point) about an all-male prison planet as seen through the eyes of someone having a really bad peyote trip. I remember SLA industries giving people the chance to be a slightly bigger than average maggot on the rotting corpse of a planet dying from end-stage monopolistic capitalism, but approached the setting with a very dry, quintessentially British sense of humour. I remeber the cheapness and pointlessness of life in Paranoia, an RPG that Orwell himself would have loved. I remember the balls-to-the-wall insanity of an Australian RPG named Hunter Planet, where death, mutation and dismemberment were the gold standard for PC's.

And what do we have now? Social Justice is more important than having fun. Being inoffensive is simultaneously the Most Important Thing In The World and also completely impossible, because there's always going to be a nigger, faggot, troon or vagina wielder there to police everything you do as a GM.
Can't run a game where egregiously bad decisions are punished. Can't run a game where good decisions are rewarded. Can't run a game where one player character naturally and organically emerges as the leader. Can't write a game where black people are slaves, not-Jews are good with money, or societies comprised of straight white people are benign.

As I said only a day or so ago to a friend- how do you make a living in comedy when nobody has a sense of humour any more?
And how do you do an edgy, tongue-in-cheek game when people find edge offensive and no longer understand satire?

Choose your players well, GMs. The same people you welcome to the gaming table today could be accusing you of psychological de-facto rape, racism, misogyny or more tomorrow. You will have no trial outside Facebook or Twitter. You will have no legal defence. And when you are inevitably found guilty in the court of social media, every potential employer you ever contact, upon googling your name, will discover you recreationally advocate for slavery, genocide, rape, sexism, misogyny and white supremacy.

I wouldn't play any RPG with anyone I didn't know personally, due to risk of them taking offence over some trifle and damaging my IRL career. And that's very saddening, that we now have a gaming culture where so many people are looking for the opportunity to take offence instead of the opportunity to grow a thicker skin and laugh at the absurdities of modern existence.
 

Kane Lives

Peace through power
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I wouldn't play any RPG with anyone I didn't know personally, due to risk of them taking offence over some trifle and damaging my IRL career. And that's very saddening, that we now have a gaming culture where so many people are looking for the opportunity to take offence instead of the opportunity to grow a thicker skin and laugh at the absurdities of modern existence.
Amazingly enough, the one common complaint I hear from soc-jus types is just how hard is it to find groups to play tabletop games.

I wonder why that is? 🤔🤔🤔
 

Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest
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So, five coomers and one cunt so dry it drips sand.

Is anyone even remotely surprised? In saner days, these fuckers would be getting torn to ribbons for "fetishizing lesbians". In Current Year, though? I'm sure even actual lesbians cower in fear before these men and their creative beard/enabler.
 

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