Gorilla Channel Executive Producer
- Nov 4, 2017
All this talk about X system being better or worse for roleplaying feels like a cop-out to me.
You're not wrong but you are overlooking that some systems inspire more roleplay than others. While experienced players tend to ignore the instructions to GMs and players, reading them gives good insight the design goals of the system.
I have a player who is ... I guess I'll call them a Theater Minor, where they'll play with but they really don't want to think about their character's actions, just the end result. "I use perception on the room" is what they do unless you prompt or force them to do more; no questions, no attempts to see what's around, just roll perception.
They wouldn't be able to pull that shit in 1e/1eA/2e because there are no skills (Rogues have abilities, gawd), you have to describe what you do. They want to roll number and have the good things happen - and if they roll like shit to tag in another party member to try.
1e DMG straight up tells the GM to punish players using knowledge their characters wouldn't possess. Not just consequences, take their magic items until they learn to play correctly.
3.x was more about letting players have skills and encouraging players to describe their actions and then the GM determining skils
4e had skill challenges for most roleplay sorts of scenarios where dice would be needed, and would give GMs ideas of skills that could be rolled and actions that might use those skills, but they encouraged players to be creative, encouraged rewarding creative solutions, and if it was really good, giving an auto-success.
5e just seems to inspire "I use skill, tell me what I did" from players, and the DMG and PHB don't seem to discourage that.
I will readily grant the incrementing editions do not occur in a vacuum, and if you got in a time machine back to 1984 with a copy of 5e, that group would probably respond differently than people in current year do.
Like asking you what sort of faggot shit was this about having characters who are men pretending to be women. You a fucking queer or something?