How does the new player experience compare to Valve's other flagship game, DOTA 2? The skill floor in that game is a lot higher.
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How does the new player experience compare to Valve's other flagship game, DOTA 2? The skill floor in that game is a lot higher.
GhostButt
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I'd have to assume it's pretty rough since this generation doesn't really know rocket jumping at all.
I've met a lot of new players in the community servers and they said they were drawn to the game because of the media that has been produced for it. Like the GMOD and SFM videos, no doubt they're likely kids but they're interested in having fun their own way. Which I think TF2 does really well with the plethora of gamemodes that are and are not vanilla. What I'm saying is you likely won't meet as many new players on the casual community or valve servers than you would on an achievement or trade server.
I've heard the furry pound is unironically good vanilla tf2
I played a matchmaking game with a work friend the other day and it was hot garbage. Proper TF2 to me is comfy 2fort, not “approach cart, get sniper instantly, respawn”. Just not fun, don’t know how anyone can stand it but tryhards.
iceteayo
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Thats my other problem even when I played TF2 classic gamers on average are just better nowadays so you will never "ever" get that classic feel since in 2008 being good a video game was nerd shit now its not so everyone and their mother wants to be a pubstomp god.
Yeah, there this gay thing called "skill" that tf2 players value for some reason. According to them, phlog pyros are brainless skill-less heathens that do nothing but "w+m1". whatever that means.
Tanner Glass
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DOTA2 has a dedicated tutorial mode that does a decent job of explaining game mechanics, character roles, and so on. There's a newbie pool (with limited heroes) and MMR ratings that curb players being matched against players who are entirely better. It could be improved, but a new player will get eased into DOTA2 compared to a new player just getting thrown to the wolves in TF2. DOTA2 casual and DOTA2 serious/ranked/matching making whatever are the same game as well - compared to TF2s Casual 12v12 hijinx to the 6v6 Competitive format, which means that a DOTA2 newbie playing in casual mode will still be increasing his skill level - where as the TF2 casual skills don't translate as well.
The main issue is that TF2 has a lot of variant items that can change the flow of the game - where as most DOTA2 items (which are mainly +stats) and heroes are straight forward (tanky ones, support ones, magic ones, stealth ones, etc).
DOTA2 doesn't have the best tutorial ever made, but compared to TF2? Night and day.
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