Team Four Star - Creators of a bunch of stuff to make people laugh trying to figure out what to do after a decade of comedically retelling Dragon Ball Z.

[The tired cat]

You know, I would have said earlier that I doubt they'd fudge things because they're autistically devoted to the series' canon, but considering in the HFIL videos they're trying to pretend Frieza could beat up Cell, I can see them doing something like that.

I think they still have enough cash and good will that they can keep it going a little longer. Plus they have these "new" series that will help keep hope alive that they're going to go eventually do the Buu saga some day.

It's been said that Demo Reel was starting to turn around and get better, and if Doug had kept it going he probably would have been fine. It's just that the site needed the Critic asap so he did it and refused to go back to Demo Reel even though it was pointed out it could still happen as a side project.

TFS on the other hand... I think they're insecure. If they go back to DBZA, then they have to accept that they really have nothing else to offer. Which I don't believe is true, if they could get an original anime off the ground with characters that are basically Nappa/Vegeta/Trunks/Bulma/Gohan/etc. just with different designs and maybe at a school, they could probably make something interesting. But it's looking like that won't happen.

I mostly wonder of another thing, if they didn't wanna go back to DBZA, they could have just picked another anime to Abridged. There's plenty of schlock or other stuff they could have made fun of, do Drifters despite Kaiser being a whiny bitch how "muh dun likey" f you don't wanna do the Buu saga then say fuck it and just do GT.

 

[CrystalHead]

GT Abridged could be good but honestly if they don't like the Buu Saga enough to abridge it then there's now way they would like GT enough to abridge it.

Honestly I could actually kinda see them abridging OG Dragonball. I've seen talk about OGDB being remade and I honestly think that based off their attitude towards the Cell Saga, TFS would be pretentious enough to think that they would be the best ones to "remake" OG DB for modern audiences via abridging it.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Corona was such a weak fucking excuse for putting Unabridged on hiatus. Texas has been opened up enough for them to film and edit since last summer.

If you work in an office of less than 10 people you are fucking retarded for taking a break during Corona.

Sad to see TFS here, though not unexpected. I watched a lot of these guys back before they even became Team Four Star (mainly Yu-Yu Hakisho and Naruto Abridged) and followed them for most of their internet career. It's not much of an exaggeration to say these guys were revered almost like gods by a good portion of the Internet back in the late 2000's- early 2010's, and not without a good reason, they were funny, consistent in their uploads, and even down to Earth. Back in those days I would watch anything they put out almost religiously, but now...

I mean, they DBZ stuff they make is still decent, not as good as it was at their peak, but still watchable, but pretty much everything else is just...I guess the only way to describe it is that their stuff has an air of "Oh, we're Team Four Star, anything we put out will be great".



What I don't get is why all these big content creator's decide to kill the thing they've been known for making for years practically out of the blue and jump on something completely different without any backup plan encase the new thing fails.

Doug could have started doing some Demo Reels while also doing Nostalgia Critic, either slowing down NC uploads or hiring on some extra help, and once he saw it wasn't going well, can the project, look at what he did wrong, learn from it, then try something else. But instead he cancelled what he was most famous for, and cancelled it hard, tried something new under the pretense that it would at least be just as successful as NC, and ended up making an ass of himself when it flopped. From what I heard Demo Reels failure hit Doug hard, and for the longest time he blamed everyone for not liking it instead of himself for...not making a good show.

But this isn't a Nostalgia Critic thread, the point is it's seems to be the same case with Team Four Star. You should start experimenting with new stuff and she how people react to it before you can your #1 Cash Cow, even if you lost a lot of your passion for it, it still brings in an audience/ Patrons. You don't burn your old house down before moving into your new one and you don't kill off your #1 property before its time unless you know you have something else you can focus on that'll bring in cash. I get that passion and enthusiasm for a project is important in any artistic medium, but passion and enthusiasm alone doesn't put food on the table.

I can't say how much effort they put into understanding & practicing any of the new mediums they're exploring before they tried them, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they pretty muched jumped right into them without much preparation. I wounder if they've forgotten that each one of them had been doing abridging for at least a year or more before forming TFS, and even then it took another year or so of being TFS before they really found their groove. What was considered "quality content" on the Internet ten years ago would probably be considered mediocre or even trash today. Sad as it is to say, you can't just try something you're relatively unskilled in and post it on the Internet expecting to get a following or for people to like it.

Anyways, I've been rambling enough. I'm not sure what the future holds for TFS, if you asked me 5 or so years ago I'd say they'd have a massive chunk of the Internet under their thumb by now, but now...who knows?

They tried to do LPs and DnD but the former dropped in quality due to pure laziness and the latter got dead once they removed hbi2k. I have a feeling that having an abridged series that's more than an annual special without Kaiser could have made him ragequit when people would have rather watch the new thing.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

DnD but the former dropped in quality due to pure laziness and the latter got dead once they removed hbi2k.

Yeah, I'll be honest, if there was anything I remembered about their DnD series before I stopped watching, it was Ben's Eloy character... Oh and Lani complaining about people making lewd jokes about the characters

 

[The tired cat]

GT Abridged could be good but honestly if they don't like the Buu Saga enough to abridge it then there's now way they would like GT enough to abridge it.

Honestly I could actually kinda see them abridging OG Dragonball. I've seen talk about OGDB being remade and I honestly think that based off their attitude towards the Cell Saga, TFS would be pretentious enough to think that they would be the best ones to "remake" OG DB for modern audiences via abridging it.

I remember their fans suggested how they should remake their older DBZA episodes, but shove modern politics into them. When Trump was in power, some fans suggested the scene where the farmer shoots Raditz should have been done as "Dammit! Trump said he'll remove all these immigrants from mah country" or some shit.

They tried to do LPs and DnD but the former dropped in quality due to pure laziness and the latter got dead once they removed hbi2k. I have a feeling that having an abridged series that's more than an annual special without Kaiser could have made him ragequit when people would have rather watch the new thing.

For some reason, I imagine if Kaiser does ragequit or if by some miracle the rest grew balls and kicked him out, he'll probably go on entire tirades how everyone was a bastard, Nazi an etc while he was a saint. Basically pulling the CTC shit.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I remember their fans suggested how they should remake their older DBZA episodes, but shove modern politics into them. When Trump was in power, some fans suggested the scene where the farmer shoots Raditz should have been done as "Dammit! Trump said he'll remove all these immigrants from mah country" or some shit.

First that would be literally shit
Second, I don't think the farmer shooting the alien immigrant because Trump would really work when those aliens go around enslaving planets for space Hitler

For some reason, I imagine if Kaiser does ragequit or if by some miracle the rest grew balls and kicked him out, he'll probably go on entire tirades how everyone was a bastard, Nazi an etc while he was a saint. Basically pulling the CTC shit.

Oh, he absolutely would. Dude is such a drama queen it hurts.

I know FF7 did not do well compared to DB but I'd still say it was ok. They just need to do more series when they want...I bet they want to. Just get anyone other than Kaiser to edit.

If they don't really want to Abridge I can see that but I'm honestly confused by their other stuff.

What is it with content creators dumping their cash cow only to go on and make stuff that they have to know is worse? The stuff never feels like it goes beyond a first draft.

 

[Warkrieg Battlebournion]

GT Abridged could be good but honestly if they don't like the Buu Saga enough to abridge it then there's now way they would like GT enough to abridge it.

Honestly I could actually kinda see them abridging OG Dragonball. I've seen talk about OGDB being remade and I honestly think that based off their attitude towards the Cell Saga, TFS would be pretentious enough to think that they would be the best ones to "remake" OG DB for modern audiences via abridging it.

I don't believe they don't like Buu Saga enough, I've heard Lani talk about it years ago and how they we're going to do it and had plans to do so since way back.
OG DB, I don't think they could do it. It was too pure, but also way more deviant that DBZ, I don't think it would mix well with TFS style.
DB GT though, I think they could do some seriously good shit with that.

 

[The tired cat]

First that would be literally shit
Second, I don't think the farmer shooting the alien immigrant because Trump would really work when those aliens go around enslaving planets for space Hitler

I mean, do you think it matters that it doesn't work? To their fans, it would just be enough to shove "ORANGE MAAN!" and they would laugh and clap, case in point look at half the jokes in Hellsing Abridged or Lani's lil' spiel in one of Linkara's episodes.

Oh, he absolutely would. Dude is such a drama queen it hurts.

I know FF7 did not do well compared to DB but I'd still say it was ok. They just need to do more series when they want...I bet they want to. Just get anyone other than Kaiser to edit.

If they don't really want to Abridge I can see that but I'm honestly confused by their other stuff.

What is it with content creators dumping their cash cow only to go on and make stuff that they have to know is worse? The stuff never feels like it goes beyond a first draft.

Because they assume that the people don't come for the specific content, but just for them. This means they can make whatever the shit they want and thus gain views and Patreon donations, however, say, unlike Doug who went back to NC after he realized Demo Reel was a huge flop, TFS doesn't wanna accept the writing on the wall and keep going "Nope! Our stuff is good! Our stuff is good! We're totally gonna make it guys!"

DB GT though, I think they could do some seriously good shit with that.

Pretty sure Kaiser would set himself on fire before he does GT, mostly because Trunk there has been reduced to a joke.

 

[Warkrieg Battlebournion]

Pretty sure Kaiser would set himself on fire before he does GT, mostly because Trunk there has been reduced to a joke.

Even more reason for them to do GT then.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I mean, do you think it matters that it doesn't work? To their fans, it would just be enough to shove "ORANGE MAAN!" and they would laugh and clap

Point

Because they assume that the people don't come for the specific content, but just for them. This means they can make whatever the shit they want and thus gain views and Patreon donations, however, say, unlike Doug who went back to NC after he realized Demo Reel was a huge flop, TFS doesn't wanna accept the writing on the wall and keep going "Nope! Our stuff is good! Our stuff is good! We're totally gonna make it guys!"

That what's funny to me. They could do whatever and people would watch...if they made it good. They are no longer doing that. I'm absolutely convinced that people have stopped watching not because of the specific content but because of them.

Pretty sure Kaiser would set himself on fire before he does GT, mostly because Trunk there has been reduced to a joke.

They could have just scripted him to be cool. It would hardly be the first time they've completely changed a character.

 

[The tired cat]

That what's funny to me. They could do whatever and people would watch...if they made it good. They are no longer doing that. I'm absolutely convinced that people have stopped watching not because of the specific content but because of them.

I suppose you have a point, but I kinda doubt that say their Time Squad knock-off cartoon (have a cookie if you remember that show), would have been watched if they actually gave a shit about it and tried.

They could have just scripted him to be cool. It would hardly be the first time they've completely changed a character.

See the issue is that scripting him cool is one thing, how do you show that on the screen/animation? Because in every scene where Trunks appears, he kinda gets pantsed or his ass kicked around.

 

[KingofNothing]

I hear you guys saying they should just try abridging more Dragon Ball stuff, but let's remember that Toei fucking hates them and keeping the episodes they have up now was a huge pain in the ass. It's also why they stopped Attack on Titans abridged. Their original stuff might not be great, but it's probably better than constantly worrying about Toei or some other big anime company getting pissed enough to finally nuke them for good every time they put out an episode.

 

[The tired cat]

I hear you guys saying they should just try abridging more Dragon Ball stuff, but let's remember that Toei fucking hates them and keeping the episodes they have up now was a huge pain in the ass. It's also why they stopped Attack on Titans abridged. Their original stuff might not be great, but it's probably better than constantly worrying about Toei or some other big anime company getting pissed enough to finally nuke them for good every time they put out an episode.

Wasnt the sole reason Toei jumped on their asses waa because they went "Hey! Lets make shirts with these copyrighted characters and not just advertise em on our chanell, but sell em at a know site" and the rest of the peanut gallery went "Hooookay!"

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Wasnt the sole reason Toei jumped on their asses waa because they went "Hey! Lets make shirts with these copyrighted characters and not just advertise em on our chanell, but sell em at a know site" and the rest of the peanut gallery went "Hooookay!"

That didn't help, but I feel it was more because they took one of their esteemed properties and added jokes to it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

That didn't help, but I feel it was more because they took one of their esteemed properties and added jokes to it.

Who pissed in Toei’s coffee?

 

[Polyboros2]

I remember their fans suggested how they should remake their older DBZA episodes, but shove modern politics into them. When Trump was in power, some fans suggested the scene where the farmer shoots Raditz should have been done as "Dammit! Trump said he'll remove all these immigrants from mah country" or some shit.

I got so paranoid they were going to go that way and ruin the closing of Hellsing Ultimate Abridged, and while they definitely skimmed the surface of it, they never explicitly crossed that line.

 

[God of Nothing]

I got so paranoid they were going to go that way and ruin the closing of Hellsing Ultimate Abridged, and while they definitely skimmed the surface of it, they never explicitly crossed that line.

The fedora tipping was cringe.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

GT Abridged could be good but honestly if they don't like the Buu Saga enough to abridge it then there's now way they would like GT enough to abridge it.

It's not that they don't like it, it's that they see the Cell fight as being so epic and amazing that they can't top it and to do anything else would just be an anti-climax, which was why that last line from Trunks exists. Not just as a joke but because the egotists genuinely believe they made something so amazing that it has to be the ending.

I remember their fans suggested how they should remake their older DBZA episodes, but shove modern politics into them. When Trump was in power, some fans suggested the scene where the farmer shoots Raditz should have been done as "Dammit! Trump said he'll remove all these immigrants from mah country" or some shit.

They've been talking about redoing the first season for a few years at this point, especially after they redid the first two movies (Lani did those with Masako and Vegeta before the official series happened) because they don't think they match the "Current style".

I guess that's a way to compromise doing DBZA and not continuing. Just say "Hey guys, if we get to 4 million subscribers, or if this video gets a million hits, we'll remake the first episode from scratch".

 

[RurkerHivemind]

Geez. I kinda stopped keeping track of Team4Star after a while.

I guess like with Channel Awesome I grew out of it. Really loved a lot of their classic jokes and all but it seems the Abridging subgenre is pretty dead at this point.

Also,Code Ment is better.

 

[Mr. 0]

Also,Code Ment is better.

rest in peace purpleeyeswtf