Plagued TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

[Pyre]

The surgery horror thread is chock full of them at this point. They aren't even posting pics of botches anymore-- they're just reeing away like complete OCDtards about how they think no troon ever ever ever passes.

We're talking page-long rants of armchair medical bullshit without them even stopping to catch a breath.

The ignorant always have the most opinions and will argue that they're right regardless of whether they are or not.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

The surgery horror thread is chock full of them at this point. They aren't even posting pics of botches anymore-- they're just reeing away like complete OCDtards

Every tranny thread on the farms is now full of them now, just humorless, hectoring, sperging. KF is no fun anymore thanks to them.

It's amazing comparing the farms now to a few years ago, you can't even leave some kind of throw away, flippant shitpost "lol women a retards" comment, without coming back half an hour later to a chimpout of serious lecturing posts about how "women totally aren't retards", and a ton of neg ratings from a load of silent TERF accounts with no posts on them.

I just had a quick look in the the Tranny Social Media thread and saw this, lol. Some one dares criticize the ongoing belligerent TERF domination in there, que terfy vengence with the stickers they love so much.

 

[LurkNoMore]

belligerent TERF domination

What you expect? I mean seriously? Most won't accept the hand feminism, gender critical ideas and homosexuality had in the creation of troonism.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

I do love the TERFs that take the time to comb through this thread and neg rate anything critical, well done ladies, that'll show "the patriarchy".
Authoritarianism of thought quintessential of feminism, 2nd or 3rd wave.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

Every tranny thread on the farms is now full of them now, just humorless, hectoring, sperging. KF is no fun anymore thanks to them.

It's amazing comparing the farms now to a few years ago, you can't even leave some kind of throw away, flippant shitpost "lol women a retards" comment, without coming back half an hour later to a chimpout of serious lecturing posts about how "women totally aren't retards", and a ton of neg ratings from a load of silent TERF accounts with no posts on them.

I just had a quick look in the the Tranny Social Media thread and saw this, lol. Some one dares criticize the ongoing belligerent TERF domination in there, que terfy vengence with the stickers they love so much.

I personally blame that one tranny speedrunner article being featured for the sudden surge of TERFs in that thread. It wasn't even originally posted onto there, it was a crosspost.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

The surgery horror thread is chock full of them at this point. They aren't even posting pics of botches anymore-- they're just reeing away like complete OCDtards about how they think no troon ever ever ever passes.

We're talking page-long rants of armchair medical bullshit without them even stopping to catch a breath.

Well, at least Mandy doesn't have to beg for pussy pics on Twitter anymore, now he knows where to go.

On a more serious note, what do you have to say about the fact that /r/NeovaginaResults (which was pro-trans/pro-SRS) was banned along with /r/NeovaginaDisasters? A transwoman, upon learning of the /r/NeovaginaDisasters suspension, started a new subreddit /r/NeovaginaResults the purpose of which was to showcase good as well as bad M2F SRS results. That new subreddit was immediately suspended as well. For lack of a subreddit to post to, transpeople have now taken to posting on /r/detrans about bad SRS results.

Clearly this is not about banning TERFs for being bigots, this about one derranged pre-op SJW moderator's censorship crusade to ban any subreddit that discusses botched or satisfactory SRS. When Reddit was purging GC subreddits they went into overkill mode and also banned /r/NeovaginaResults, the latter of which was moderated by a trannie who actually had the surgery.

For those of you that never got to see /r/NeovaginaDisasters when it was still up, here's an example of a thread:

http://archive.ph/uLi3t http://archive.ph/TusfL

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I do love the TERFs that take the time to comb through this thread and neg rate anything critical, well done ladies, that'll show "the patriarchy".
Authoritarianism of thought quintessential of feminism, 2nd or 3rd wave.

Imagine caring about your fake internet points. Here you go.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

Imagine caring about your fake internet points. Here you go.

Imagine being so entitled and wedded to your hysterical oppression narrative you have to neurotically police every corner of the internet where there may be people committing wrong think on the femminist agenda.

 

[Dyn]

Imagine being so entitled and wedded to your hysterical oppression narrative you have to neurotically police every corner of the internet where there may be people committing wrong think on the femminist agenda.

Bro you've been nonstop crying like a little girl for over a year because there are feminists in your tranny thread. Literally everybody else there seems to be perfectly capable of coexisting and getting along despite their differences of opinions. Maybe the problem is you.

 

[Legoshi]

Gay men are the most muh soggy knee'd of all. The real reason they fuck men is because they just hate women that much.

They don't really know a lot of gay men. Do they?

With the term "cunt", it can refer to any man or woman in UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. How Americentric...

 

[artilleryfroth]

They don't really know a lot of gay men. Do they?

With the term "cunt", it can refer to any man or woman in UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. How Americentric...

Can confirm, also “Dickhead” and “prick” and “ballsack” aren’t sex specific terms, in the way they are used.

 

[Dyn]

With the term "cunt", it can refer to any man or woman in UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. How Americentric...

Cunt is sixty percent of our punctuation how the fuck are we supposed to communicate if you take it away from us?

edit ; nm we can still grunt and throw half-bricks I guess

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Most won't accept the hand feminism, gender critical ideas and homosexuality had in the creation of troonism.

I insist that most trannies (like most men) don't know jack about feminism and only dip their toes in it, if that, when they are initially soul-searching and looking for answers/excuses/justifications.

You need to go and study narcissism instead of feminism to truly understand trannies. Most trannies are so ignorant, arrogant and up their own ass, they can't even tell you the different parts of a vagina, even while wanting one themselves. That's how willfully ignorant and indifferent trannies are to real women, so the suggestion that trannies went and studied feminism to find a justification for what they were doing is plainly ridiculous. Narcissists don't need a justification for their narcissism.

Feminism has exactly jack all to do with AGPs being allowed to transition. AGPs were allowed to transition because greedy doctors (overwhelmingly male at the time) saw an opportunity to make more money from transitions by expanding the group of men that was allowed to transition. A few AGPs were personally soul-searching and looking of ideological justifications for whatever they were doing themselves medically, and some found that justification in feminist slogans such as "my body, my choice" which they (mis)appropriated for themselves, but that was about their only exposure to feminism and it was purely for self-serving reasons. Not because they had an actual interest in what these women were talking about. They just liked the idea of bodily autonomy that feminists were advocating for, and took and used that for themselves.

They don't really know a lot of gay men. Do they?

Nope, they don't. It's because they think all gay men are pedophiles.

Here's an example of a Youtube TERF being triggered at gay men using the word "bitch":

I love it when TERFs get all territorial about language and claim to have a monopoly on certain words or terms or even hashtags.

I wonder, would she ever post a video telling black women they don't get to use the word "bitch"?

But... and this I didn't expect: Youtube TERF Dworkin's Ghost went and watched the movie Brokeback Mountain... and actually liked it, WTF

She even says: "I'm surprised a straight man directed this really, I wouldn't be surprised if he did consult older homosexual men for their experiences."... yes, Dworkin, back then directors would actually consult with others rather than assume they know what's up just because they belong to a certain minority. Also, you need to analyze the role of this movie in terms of the raging debate at the time about gay marriage. This movie really was a vehicle for exposing straight people to the history of homosexuality in America and how gay people historically hid in straight society. The reason they picked the friendly Jack (the bottom) and the domineering Enniz (the top) is because these are male personalities that straight men can recognize in themselves and their friends. The sex scene was supposed to confront straight audiences with their fear of and fascination with "sodomy" by showing something that was previously considered unshowable. Sex scenes in movies don't have to be realistic.

What a devestatingly sad this movie was. I spent my whole life kids fighting for your right to be gay or lesbian or black or female and do whatever you wanted to with your life. Back when it was unpopular, back when I went door to door for everyone from the school board trustee to the federal elections... Yet today, they believe it's okay to spew hate toward white cis hetero men, and no one on what used to be our side ultimately was there for me when they, as it were, came for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMA30rThECg&lc=UgwPXHeJUXYmZigXgi94AaABAg

I suspect another reason TERFs don't like gay men is because they are a lot more honest about how the gay scene can be just as toxic and disappointing as mainstream hetero dating. TERFs like to pretend that women are better off dating women and men dating men, as if same-sex relationships are somehow superior to straight relationships, but when gay men talk amongst themselves they are a lot more open and honest about the toxicity of gay dating. They will readily admit that gay dating is not inherently superior to heterosexual dating, and I suspect TERFs don't want their bubble burst by that gay male honesty about what the gay dating scene is actually like.

Check out some of the brutally honest comments from other gay men underneath this video by a gay man, you will never see this kind of honesty from a militant lesbian TERF insisting that women are superior partners for women to men:

I agree, it is a lie. And they always tells us that mr right will come when you stop searching or looking for him. Not true. They lie to us because they dont want to tell us the truth. And the truth is that the gay community is ugly, shallow and full of assholes. If you arent rich, ripped and white your chances for getting a man who looks like chris Hemsworth or a man like michael fassbender are very very VERY slim. Thats the truth.

@S G The attractive, wealthy, and famous gay men have a hard time too. Look at Wentworth Miller, one of the most gorgeous, sensitive, introspective men there are. I'd venture to bet a lot of his depression has come from the little the gay community has to offer...besides sex, drugs, drinking, etc (which he even expressed). So many "attractive" gay guys wind up porn stars, escorts, and z-list models sucking dick for new gigs. With this being said...I do think things are changing. As the culture shifts towards acceptance, more gay men will probably be more comfortable to express themselves, come out, and perhaps seek genuine bonds with other gay males, romantic and platonic.

Loneliness isn’t something new nor a “gay epidemic”, it’s life. Everyone has been brainwashed to believe from an early age that we’re social animals who are meant to be straight who coupled up with someone of the opposite sex as young adults, get a job, married, mortgage and family, then grow old and die!

However, there’s people like me who know that they are different at a young age, then comes the depressions of trying to live up to expectations of our upbringing but failing big time, again that’s life until you alone decide what is your truth.

I’m gay and I’m proud of me, and honestly I don’t support the current rainbow brigade because the LGBT doesn’t represent me and they are full of crap!

Loneliness is a gay thing and never was, it’s a state of mind that affects not just humans but animals too, ask your local zoo about it. And for some strange reason, society has brainwashed people to believe that loneliness is a dirty word and a bad thing, is it though?

In my almost half a century on this Earth, the times that I have felt lonely has been when I tried to be part of the London gay scene, mixing with others who were supposedly my peers but in actual fact the most miserable bunch of sheep when sober, and yeah, I said it!

If one was into Kylie, suddenly the rest follow suit and it was all about who can out camp the other or pull the most guys,

the gay scene was about being superficial, and I don’t operate that way, which is apparently typical for Aquarians.

Having gay friends weren’t easy for me nor them as I represented their true reality, and I felt so lonely then because I found I had nothing in common with them,

and I felt bullied by them because I didn’t drink much and never copped off with anyone at the end of the night, didn’t take drugs or partake in anything that was part of the gay scene, which in my eye were negative things.

And it didn’t help that I was and still am adamant that this thing called the “gay lifestyle” is a big, massive myth. There’s no such thing as a “gay lifestyle” as there’s no such thing as a “straight lifestyle”, it’s just called a lifestyle, end off!

You don’t get bonuses, even tax rebates and/or money deducted from your bills, rents and groceries for being gay, they don’t care whose in your bed as long as you pay on time.

And honestly, this gay scene business is soul-destroying, people trying to be something that doesn’t exist, and it hurts a lot of people who feel that they don’t have what they think is expected off them, which is sad.

There’s more gay people committing suicide than any other group, but the tragedy is that the gay scene doesn’t care, I’ve seen it over the years and it’s a tragic shame. Believe it or not, a gay person’s worst enemy is another gay person.

For once, I just wished there were gay people out there who are happy to be their own person and an individual.

I don’t know why as a proud gay person in myself I didn’t get caught up in the London gay scene and occasionally I do get to talk to young gay people who’ve just came out or are thinking of coming out and I encourage them to be themselves and to do things that’s right for themselves.

I don’t want them to experience their first sexual encounter being sexually abused, as myself and a lot of people of my generation had been put through.

(And sadly still, a lot of young gay people still believe going to public toilets or known cruising grounds is the way forward, but it isn’t. I’d tried to help this young guy out about 15 years ago and he wanted to have his first gay sexual experience and I’d tried to advise him to wait until he’d found someone that he could trust and he wanted it to be me, but I wanted to be his friend, I’ve never and will never sleep with someone just for the sake of it, I know what I want for me.

He understood that but got too impatient and so decided to go to some cruising ground in Margate, where you’d lived and the following day the police found his battered body, he was only 19. Three men had tricked him into going with them and he was beaten to death and sodomised by objects, by three big anti gay thugs!)

For years I felt guilty for his tragic death and had wished that I had been flexible and had sex with him, perhaps then he’ll still be alive, but I was being his friend, someone that he could confide in and that was all, I never promised him sex and/or relationship, he knew where he stood with me, I was just his older gay friend nothing more, but I guess it’s generally human nature to feel so guilty over something so devastatingly and tragically cruel that we couldn’t prevent;

in life you can only give your own personal opinion and advise the person, sometimes through your own experience, but at the end of the day, that person that you are talking with, if they are an adult they have free will and is going to do what they want, whether you approve or not.

It’s their own decision, even when they know that there are so much evil out there.

By no means am I saying that it was my friend’s fault that he’d was so sadly robbed of his life, I just wished that the gay scene wasn’t so egotistical and more diverse to accept EVERYONE, regardless of the way you look, your body shape or the size of your penis!

This is the thing with gay men, nobody will admit how intimidating and negative the gay scene is on the inside and you’re gay. My murdered friend wasn’t a big guy, in actual fact he was only around 5ft 4” and very slim and he was mildly mentally challenged, but he was still a functioning human being but he never felt comfortable in gay venues because of the unfriendliness he felt in those places, and I get what he means because of my own experience.

I know that I’m not an attractive guy, and give me a few drinks and I’m chatting and laughing with everyone, but on many occasions in gay venues, even with gay friends I had at the time, I would be having a great time and there maybe a stranger by us and I would be friendly to the stranger to get them involve as they’re laughing at the jokes with us, but they will just blank me by walking off as if I’ve tried to pull them, which I wasn’t, I was just being friendly, and I’ve even had them tell me not to talk to them as I was ugly.

I just thanked them and carried on laughing with my mates, but gradually I had to stop trying to be friendly with strangers because it would cause fights between those spiteful individuals with my mates because they would get upset over it whereas I’m just happy to carry on.

Yeah it’s horrible being treated like that, but I just let it go because life is too short.
And it’s never the lesbians of any of the other people from the rainbow spectrum who are rude to me, it’s always the gay and the funny thing is, they’ve not been my type in the first place. Ive also been the butt of the joke, about 5 times that I know of, I was an innocent party of a group betting war of friends betting on each other who can pull the ugliest person, which I find quite funny because of the fact that I’m very old fashion when it comes to dating, I won’t even kiss on the first date! LOL

Honestly, if I had the money, I would create a place for those “misfits”, like myself, to come and socialise without decimation, where everybody can feel safe and free to be themselves, although I must admit, those shallow good looking people that has the personality of a gnat will not be welcome because my venue would be about individuals who want to make real connection, not sheep who want to grow their little black book of conquest.

Trust people, you can be gay and happy, when you stop trying to be a sheep.

Seriously, be more like myself and be proud to be an ugly old and individual gay person, it’s so freeing and less stressful

People who choose to use platforms like grindr have a serious issue. They are the most shallow, the craziest, and entitled. And those GOOD men who go on there run fast after a couple of hours, and sometimes minutes.

Good men dont date online because they know there is nothing but trash on there. And the fact of the matter is... There is nothing but trash there. You wont find a decent man in a whore house and grindr and online dating attracts a specific type of person; aka: a-hole

The issues are quite complex. The part where the author cited a survey saying 90% of gay men want a tall, young, white, muscular, and masculine man is pretty much dead on. If you're in shape, successful, and over 40 you can forget about finding someone with the same characteristics. They all want 25 year olds. And all of the gay friends I have who talked and talked about having a family over the years; none of them actually did it. None.

 

[LurkNoMore]

@Nykysnottrans
Then its a good thing I never said troons studied feminism for their fetishism. Though some no doubt have and even have degrees in feminist bullshit to come up with justifications for their fetishism.

It does. Feminism has done nothing but push the boundaries of what an acceptable woman is. And by extension what an acceptable and not acceptable man is. Feminism has pushed constantly for the feminization of men and boys. Ranted about the horrors of "toxic" male behaviour and so on. It doesn't take a genius to see that a movement that. 1) says openness about sex and alternative sexuality is good. 2) that boys and girls, men and women can dress and act as masculine and feminine as they desire with being thought of anyless or oddly. And 3) brought forth the view that women are oppressed and men are the oppressors. Has helped brought about the current crop of aidens and annas.

AGPs would have never gotton their mens size Fifteen heels into the door of those doctors offices if not for the loosening of gender norms. Trans ideology has itself firmly entrenched in gender and women's studies. Both of which have themselves firmly entrenched in higher education. The ideology the average troon uses to justify his or her fetishism has its roots in feminism.

They didn't misappropriate anyting. If its perfectly fine for a women to terminate the pregnancy of a healthy child because she doesn't want to be a mother or put her career on hold. On the grounds of her body, her choice. Why is it a misappropriation for her to be closed up and a flesh dildo to be sewn on? Them using the bodily autonomy argument for whatever reason is exactly what those women raised it for. So an individual, any individual, could have say over the medical procedures done to them.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Trans ideology has itself firmly entrenched in gender and women's studies.

Actually, trans ideology is firmly entrenched in commercialized medical science, which is a male-dominated field of science. The main advocates of transgenderism were always white cis men in white coats wanting to "correct" effeminacy in men. Medical transgenderism long predates political feminism by several decades. Your argument that feminism is to blame for transgenderism is simply not supported by the historical record. You're just blaming feminists because you want to let the commercialization of medical science off the hook as the main driver and enabler. If it was only feminists supporting the idea of feminine men being accepted by society, I can assure you transgenderism would've never gotten off the ground the way it did thanks to the institutional support and establishment clout it got from its push as a "treatment" by medicine. Please don't tell me that the humanities supposedly have more clout than medicine does because that is absolutely BS. The humanities have nowhere the budget, clout, reach, authority or connections that medicine has in society. Transgenderism took off because overwhelmingly male doctors gave it their scientific blessing.

 

[LurkNoMore]

Actually, trans ideology is firmly entrenched in commercialized medical science, which is a male-dominated field of science. The main advocates of transgenderism were always white cis men in white coats wanting to "correct" effeminacy in men. Medical transgenderism long predates political feminism by several decades. Your argument that feminism is to blame for transgenderism is simply not supported by the historical record. You're just blaming feminists because you want to let the commercialization of medical science off the hook as the main driver and enabler. If it was only feminists supporting the idea of feminine men being accepted by society, I can assure you transgenderism would've never gotten off the ground the way it did thanks to the institutional support and establishment clout it got from its push as a "treatment" by medicine. Please don't tell me that the humanities supposedly have more clout than medicine does because that is absolutely BS. The humanities have nowhere the budget, clout, reach, authority or connections that medicine has in society. Transgenderism took off because overwhelmingly male doctors gave it their scientific blessing.

And its entrenched in gender and women's studies. Lol, wut? Then you can point to all these cis white guys pushing troonism for a cure for effeminate men. No it doesn't. Feminism and women's advocacy has been around long before the start of the nineteenth century. Earliest trans stuff is doctors in wiemar Germany in the 20s and 30s. It is supported.

Um, wut? I'm blaming feminism because I don't want to blame the child butchers??? Yeah, no. I personally think the medical industry and many of its members are criminally liable for their actions.

Feminist have institutional support/clout. Most leftists/liberal people and politicians are happy to listen to the "experts". The medical industry offered "solutions" to the problems the "experts" created.

The medical industry coming up with meidical solutions does require doctors to come up with and approve those solutions. Except those solutions would never have been needed in the first place if their was no problem.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

You have a community with its own rules of decorum and behavior, culture, and memes. TERFs come in and start demanding things with masturbatory "the community needs to change for us" rhetoric. The community tells them to kindly stop trying to make everything about them and their "struggles" and they chimp out and start attacking that community and try to change it from the inside-out to make it a compliant TERF vassal state.

Who mods the 'Tranns Social Media Thread' now? It just reads like an offshoot of r/GenderCritical now, the TERF takeover is more or less complete.
Everyone in there is so sick of the TERFs shitting up the thread (and others), yet anytime you post anything even slightly opposing the relentless, irrelevant, feminist screeds they post there you get this. This seems to happen all the time now, and I hardly post there anymore.

Someone in here was talking to Null about this and he said he didn't think there was anything wrong, so it doesn't look like anything is going to change. It's depressing to see this going down exactly like I thought when I noticed the uptick of TERFs on here.
They infest a host community, disprupt it's ecosystem and demand it change to accommodate them, throwing hysterical tantrums when they don't get their own way and drive alot of the former occupants out. They're doing on KF exactly what I've seen them do elsewhere.

They are every inch the mirror image of the trannies they purport to hate, same tactics, same intransigence, same slavish devotion to an ideology that desolves on contact with reality.

I only really come to KF for the troon threads, and they're all full of humorless, miserable, hectoring feminists now with the mods backing it seems, does anyone know of anywhere else like the old Kiwi Farms to laugh at trannies?

 

[Emperor Julian]

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Who mods the 'Tranns Social Media Thread' now? It just reads like an offshoot of r/GenderCritical now, the TERF takeover is more or less complete.
Everyone in there is so sick of the TERFs shitting up the thread (and others), yet anytime you post anything even slightly opposing the relentless, irrelevant, feminist screeds they post there you get this. This seems to happen all the time now, and I hardly post there anymore.

No you don't understand 30+ threads on how much troons suck isn't enough. We can't talk about the fat fugly insane cat ladies who happen to also hate them.

 

[Dyn]

They infest a host community, disprupt it's ecosystem and demand it change to accommodate them, throwing hysterical tantrums when they don't get their own way and drive alot of the former occupants out. They're doing on KF exactly what I've seen them do elsewhere.

But that's exactly what you're doing. We haven't changed shit to accommodate the terfs and we never will, yet here you are still throwing hysterical tantrums that they exist in a thread and now you don't feel safe posting in it, begging mods to please intervene and tell the feminists they're not welcome here. The state of you, lad.

 

[Patriarchy]

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Who mods the 'Tranns Social Media Thread' now? It just reads like an offshoot of r/GenderCritical now, the TERF takeover is more or less complete.
Everyone in there is so sick of the TERFs shitting up the thread (and others), yet anytime you post anything even slightly opposing the relentless, irrelevant, feminist screeds they post there you get this. This seems to happen all the time now, and I hardly post there anymore.

Someone in here was talking to Null about this and he said he didn't think there was anything wrong, so it doesn't look like anything is going to change. It's depressing to see this going down exactly like I thought when I noticed the uptick of TERFs on here.
They infest a host community, disprupt it's ecosystem and demand it change to accommodate them, throwing hysterical tantrums when they don't get their own way and drive alot of the former occupants out. They're doing on KF exactly what I've seen them do elsewhere.

They are every inch the mirror image of the trannies they purport to hate, same tactics, same intransigence, same slavish devotion to an ideology that desolves on contact with reality.

I only really come to KF for the troon threads, and they're all full of humorless, miserable, hectoring feminists now with the mods backing it seems, does anyone know of anywhere else like the old Kiwi Farms to laugh at trannies?

CLEAN IT UP JANNY

unironic wage gap sperging? women dont matter? wew funny stuff

i wish i had saved one of their posts on the last page, one of the posters was screeching for men to help TERFs attack trannies on twitter, and how only women were brave enough to confront troons because men are afraid to in case they got "cancelled"

then she went on an unhinged rant about how funny it was that "my sex" (??) was so sick, all of this completely unsolicited, she ended up deleting her posts before having to return because i had already replied to them