Plagued TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

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TotallyAChick

I don't lift out of principle.
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If TERFs really wanted to live by their delusions and online posts, they'd need to relocate to a secluded island or establish their own Terfdom, because the deeper they go, the less compatible with a normal society they become. I know some irl and she's so manipulated by this crap she claims to be a lesbian by choice. And then she admits to being grossed out by vaginas- and says she could buy a picture book of labia to get over it. All of that because she hates men. Can you imagine men being so misogynistic they'd look at dick pics every day to "get over it" enough to be able to only interact with other men? Absolutely insane.

Insanity aside, after reading this thread, I think it's safe to say a lot of these women are secretly trans men (or they at least considered it) who are in TERF community to keep themselves in check. Sad, but also hilarious. Hell, some are openly trans.

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Non-binary crap aside, at least she doesn't sound angry?
 

Nykysnottrans

Repeat after me: I am beautiful.
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People, this is the first time I've heard Terri Strange talk about her family and her relationship to her father. Before this the only thing I knew about her from her videos was that she grew up without her biological mother. She says that he hated her father's girlfriends and at times hated her father too.


Perhaps this is why she resents the idea of sex and being sexual with men? Because it's a Freudian Electra Complex, ie, she couldn't stomach the idea of her father being sexual with all these other women who weren't her mother?

In this part she turns into Terrence McKenna and admits being a pothead: "It's really fucking hard in this culture to just go up to a tree and fucking talk to it. You get hated on for that."


TERFs and their predecessors were pretty instrumental in the creation of the conditions required for troons to grow to the extent they did. Said troons use the exact same social justice tactics and tools that TERFs and their radfem predecessors used to use all the time, only to even greater success due to being considered "more oppressed". Maybe the radfems will realize that arguing purely with concepts like social justice and oppression olympics are bad ideas. I doubt they will though.
This argument is repeatedly made by simplistic MRAs and conservatives and is frankly pure nonsense. This whole "radical feminism created the conditions for trannies to exist", well, what about all the trannies who don't use feminist rhetoric to justify themselves, and instead prefer to use libertarian post-humanist rhetoric to justify trooning out? Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame. Trannies are a psychiatric/medical invention, not a feminist one. Trannies as a psycho-medical invention go all the way back to the 1920s, decades before radical feminism. The psychiatric establishment created the conditions for trannies to exist and proliferate in the world, not feminists. To give another example, how do you explain the proliferation of trannies in Asian or Latin countries that didn't have a huge radical feminist wave? (For example, did you know that breast enhancements by means of silicone were pioneered in the East? We took that new medical technology from them.) This alone shows that the "feminism laid the groundwork for trannies" theory is nonsense. If trannies were simply an ideological invention like feminism they never would've gotten legal hold the way they have, they would still be fighting an ideological battle for justification like other ideological groups had to do to gain social clout. All the political leverage trannies have as a social group comes from being backed by the medical and pharmaceutical establishment, with them all only recently admitting that this medical/psychiatric charade was just a front to gain clout. I wholeheartedly believe in the TRA/TERF horseshoe theory and that these two groups deserve eachother, but rather because they are both social justice cults who are 100% convinced of their righteousness and believe they can do no wrong, so the means justify the ends. However, how they actually came about and gained political clout is a very different trajectory and blaming feminism for the other is some post hoc bullshit. You're just letting an powerful, vested, globalized, greedy and immoral medical industry off the hook by perpetrating this narrative. Seriously dude, go and watch that new documentary The Pharmacist and connect the dots, the same shit they did with OxyContin they are now doing with HRT. Same shit, different drugs.
 

InvertedDickEnthusiast

Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist
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Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame.
lolbertarians and anarchoanythings get what they fucking deserve, so yeah, I'll say that.
 

Approx. 59 Robins

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This argument is repeatedly made by simplistic MRAs and conservatives and is frankly pure nonsense. This whole "radical feminism created the conditions for trannies to exist", well, what about all the trannies who don't use feminist rhetoric to justify themselves, and instead prefer to use libertarian post-humanist rhetoric to justify trooning out? Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame. Trannies are a psychiatric/medical invention, not a feminist one. Trannies as a psycho-medical invention go all the way back to the 1920s, decades before radical feminism. The psychiatric establishment created the conditions for trannies to exist and proliferate in the world, not feminists. To give another example, how do you explain the proliferation of trannies in Asian or Latin countries that didn't have a huge radical feminist wave? (For example, did you know that breast enhancements by means of silicone were pioneered in the East? We took that new medical technology from them.) This alone shows that the "feminism laid the groundwork for trannies" theory is nonsense. If trannies were simply an ideological invention like feminism they never would've gotten legal hold the way they have, they would still be fighting an ideological battle for justification like other ideological groups had to do to gain social clout. All the political leverage trannies have as a social group comes from being backed by the medical and pharmaceutical establishment, with them all only recently admitting that this medical/psychiatric charade was just a front to gain clout. I wholeheartedly believe in the TRA/TERF horseshoe theory and that these two groups deserve eachother, but rather because they are both social justice cults who are 100% convinced of their righteousness and believe they can do no wrong, so the means justify the ends. However, how they actually came about and gained political clout is a very different trajectory and blaming feminism for the other is some post hoc bullshit. You're just letting an powerful, vested, globalized, greedy and immoral medical industry off the hook by perpetrating this narrative. Seriously dude, go and watch that new documentary The Pharmacist and connect the dots, the same shit they did with OxyContin they are now doing with HRT. Same shit, different drugs.
By "TERFs and their predecessors were pretty instrumental in the creation of the conditions required for troons to grow to the extent they did", I meant more-so that the incredibly liberal climate that enabled transgenders to grow from being a fringe niche or a paraphernalia to a full-blown mainstream group was, in part, fostered by TERFs and their predecessors, who were all in favour for pushing in the liberal, progressive social politics that made the political climate more hospitable for transgenders. They weren't the sole reason, as pharmaceutical companies wanted to help them gain traction to have more lifelong customers (Which you did indeed point out), as well as LGBT activists who had recently succeeded in getting gay marriage legalized and needed a new social movement to fight for, as an activist without issues is an activist without a job.

What TERFs and Radfems did in general was utilizing the progressive stack to it's fullest. They used the idea that "women are more oppressed than men" as both justification for their policies, and to shut down people that disagreed with their policies by calling them "sexist". This then led to transgenders taking this exact method, and using it to declare themselves as "even more oppressed than women", and shut down any criticism of their policies that any opposition had (whether it was radfems or conservatives) by calling them "transphobic". Generally, having an enemy effectively use your own tactics against you is generally a point where you should reconsider if said tactics are a good idea.

As for your point about trannies going all the way back to the 1920's, they were still INCREDIBLY fringe back then, and didn't really hit the mainstream until recently. Compare and contrast to the Suffragettes of the 1910's, who were a more militant form of the Suffragists, so you could argue that they were radfems. Now, granted, the suffragettes were fighting for the women's right to vote, which is a noble cause, but utilizing bombings and arson to achieve your goals is hard to not consider radical. As for trannies in the East, I don't know enough about them to make any solid claims, but I'd still imagine that they're completely different to trannies you get in the West, in terms of social behaviours at least.

I may have misrepresented my argument by making it seem like TERFs and Radfems were solely to blame, which they weren't. Pharma companies and LGBT activists were just as, if not more, guilty for letting the issue become this big. But Radfems can't exactly wash their hands completely of the issue.
 

trannyfucker

fucker of trannies
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TERF infighting.

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Basically trannies McKinnon https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dr-rachel-mckinnon-rhys-mckinnon-rachel-veronica-mckinnon-foxy-moxy.49422/ Hayden https://kiwifarms.net/threads/anthony-george-halliday-steven-hayden-stephanie-hayden-judicialcat-flyinglawyer73-srh2018.53253/ and fanboy https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dr-adrian-harrop.43600/ have been smearing KF member https://kiwifarms.net/members/dr-louise-moody.35228/

And this has been sent to her lawyer by a fellow TERF, who hasn't been identified but I'm assuming is either Jean Hatchet/Vonny Watts (https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet), who has form for this sort of thing, having previously devoted a lot of her time to smearing Posie Parker, who is on the Moody/KF side of tranny bashing, or actually-notable TERF Julie Bindel (likewise).
 

polyester

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This whole "radical feminism created the conditions for trannies to exist", well, what about all the trannies who don't use feminist rhetoric to justify themselves
I think you're confusing "Creating the conditions in which troons were able to get the politically correct establishment of the Western world on their side" with "Causing them to troon out in the first place".

Of course trooning out is not caused by mind-controlling feminists, it's caused by varying blends of
  • mental illness,
  • attention seeking,
  • social contagion,
  • dysfunctional social and family structures,
  • and yes, as you say, probably also medication.
Some troons have always existed on the fringes, but it's hard to ignore how their recent rise to power as a movement only gained traction once the most vocal trans activists:
  1. Presented themselves as part of feminism, and successfully captured most explicitly feminist institutions in the US (Gender Studies departments, Women's Rights groups, left-leaning newspapers, etc. - though admittedly not in the UK).
  2. Copied much of the rhetoric and tactics that feminists had pioneered to gain institutional power - most notably, exploiting the "My victimhood narrative trumps your individual rights!" moral rule that feminists had convinced so many institutions and government agents to adopt.
To the point where now, refusing to affirm a troon's self-delusion will not merely get you excommunicated from polite society, but is actually a criminal offense in various Western countries, with the Democratic Party trying hard to establish the same even in the country of Free Speech.

Of course, TERFs never wonder "Hm, maybe building an entire moral framework on self-identified victimhood and pushing society to abandon classical liberalism in favor of that, was a mistake"?
The establishment now gives troons the power to force other people to associate with them and affirm their beliefs, and TERFs are furious over that not because they believe in Free Speech and Free Association as moral principles, but because they believe that they are the ones who are owed that power.

PS: The existence of ladyboys in Asia is not really relevant to any of this - it's a completely separate cultural tradition, they're not like Western troons, they aren't given license to censor critics and force themselves into women's groups by those countries' establishment, and they've existed for a long time without affecting the West.
 

TaimuRadiu

Kaiserin
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TERF infighting.

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Basically trannies McKinnon https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dr-rachel-mckinnon-rhys-mckinnon-rachel-veronica-mckinnon-foxy-moxy.49422/ Hayden https://kiwifarms.net/threads/anthony-george-halliday-steven-hayden-stephanie-hayden-judicialcat-flyinglawyer73-srh2018.53253/ and fanboy https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dr-adrian-harrop.43600/ have been smearing KF member https://kiwifarms.net/members/dr-louise-moody.35228/

And this has been sent to her lawyer by a fellow TERF, who hasn't been identified but I'm assuming is either Jean Hatchet/Vonny Watts (https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet), who has form for this sort of thing, having previously devoted a lot of her time to smearing Posie Parker, who is on the Moody/KF side of tranny bashing, or actually-notable TERF Julie Bindel (likewise).
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A TERF not liking it when someone swarms around her and starts stinging?
 
Genuinely interested TERF here who has used Kiwifarms for occasional entertainment for a while now but only just finally signed up... I pretty much agree with you on the being-useful agenda you've presented. I realize this is over a month old but what kind of help would a radfem expect to get on KF besides a bunch of dudes telling her that she and her ilk created the mess so go clean it up?
Mostly Information, Kiwi farms is one of the two places on the internet I think find shit that nobody else would ever find.
 

aquariumwater

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Crossover between the terfs and the fetishists
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That softcore works bitch literally has porn of women raping other women
I'm not getting the TERF connection here. VanillaDream34 and Softcoreworks both seem to be guys?
VanillaDream's hentai page (which isn't archiving) lists him as a guy: https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/VanillaDream34/profile
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While Softcoreworks' DeviantArt page has he/him in the google results, but she/her in the actual cache from January, the existence of profiles on Furaffinity and League of Legends hentai site suggests that it is a dude. http://archive.li/Tdi09
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The google cache for Softcoreworks' DA shows that the page was around for 2 years, but went on a anti-tranny commenting spree in January, dropping a bunch of comments on a five year old post in the span of a couple hours. https://www.deviantart.com/vanity-and-mirrors/art/Being-a-Lesbian-Stamp-174127030

His various porn profiles have to do with furry and anime shit, he seems pretty obsessed with lesbian porn, and the comic he commissioned is "Jungle of Pleasure: Catgirls in Heat" which is the absolute hallmark of trannyism. My guess is it's some sort of gay ops to own TERFs.
 
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Corgo

Lolcow herding doggo
True & Honest Fan
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The main problem with TERFs is that they take troons way too seriously. I was just reminiscing about Alex Vidal, a lolcow that I first encountered on Reddit where his rants about Kiwi Farms ironically led to me discovering the farms and his thread.

The only reason his thread is inactive now is because Alex pissed off Terves on Twitter, so they mass flagged him and got him banned. Then they did it again when he tried to use an alternate account, and he stopped trying after that.

To be fair, I get it because troons constantly weaponize their status as a protected class to silence TERFs on social media. But at the same time, the most effective way to make people hate troons is to simply give the troon a microphone and ask them to talk about gender theory. It works every time.
 

AnOminous

Really?
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To be fair, I get it because troons constantly weaponize their status as a protected class to silence TERFs on social media. But at the same time, the most effective way to make people hate troons is to simply give the troon a microphone and ask them to talk about gender theory. It works every time.
Give a troon the slightest opportunity and he'll do something disgusting like say he should get breast implants before a real woman who lost her breasts to cancer.
 

Piga Dgrifm

Where are those good old fashioned values?
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Okay, got a treat for you. So, there's this TERF on YouTube named Ella Androphobia, who is a friend of the floor-pisser extraordinaire Leah Tverly. Ella got salty that some trans guy on YouTube made a video making fun of her friend for pissing on the floor, so she made a video positing that he's only trans because his sister got hit by a car, while making mocking pouty faces about the incident. He responded to it here, but the video's kinda long:

Anyway, Ella is now threatening to contact the Maryland Police's Cybercrimes unit because she keeps getting downvotes on her YouTube videos and people keep making fun of her and Leah.
She is over thirty and refers to the teenage trans person as an "abuser" for laughing at somebody pissing on the floor. She is going to give the cops a 'record' of everyone who gives her videos a dislike, so that they will surely be arrested for their heinous crime.
She did call the police:
 

admiral

passionless bombast
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I've never encountered a more cannibalistic group than radfems/terfs. They're quick to talk about supporting women and solidarity but they'll bite your head off the second you say that no, I really don't think that women were secretly responsible for every good thing that ever happened in all of human history. You can't argue with anyone in r/gendercritical, they'll ban you or retaliate in a far nastier fashion than a man ever would. Men'll threaten to stove your head in or rape you, but a woman will tear into you on a personal level and imply that you're a piece of shit due to the barest facts of your existence or the intricacies of your psyche.
Anyway, an all-female society wouldn't work because they'd never be able to agree on anything and everyone would get hurt feelings. Just look at all-girls education, everyone fucking hates each other.
 

TaimuRadiu

Kaiserin
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Okay, got a treat for you. So, there's this TERF on YouTube named Ella Androphobia, who is a friend of the floor-pisser extraordinaire Leah Tverly. Ella got salty that some trans guy on YouTube made a video making fun of her friend for pissing on the floor, so she made a video positing that he's only trans because his sister got hit by a car, while making mocking pouty faces about the incident. He responded to it here, but the video's kinda long:

Anyway, Ella is now threatening to contact the Maryland Police's Cybercrimes unit because she keeps getting downvotes on her YouTube videos and people keep making fun of her and Leah.
She is over thirty and refers to the teenage trans person as an "abuser" for laughing at somebody pissing on the floor. She is going to give the cops a 'record' of everyone who gives her videos a dislike, so that they will surely be arrested for their heinous crime.
She did call the police:
Is this a TERF post or a post about someone claiming she's being gangstalked by glowies?
 

lemmiwinks

кремлеботы
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Is this a TERF post or a post about someone claiming she's being gangstalked by glowies?
I can't tell which one is the terf and which is the troon. I think they both might have displaced wombs.
Histrionic Personality Disorder is one of the most ambiguous diagnostic categories in psychiatry. Hysteria is a classical term that includes a wide variety of psychopathological states. Ancient Egyptians and Greeks blamed a displaced womb, for many women’s afflictions. Several researchers from the 18th and 19th centuries studied this theme, namely, Charcot who defined hysteria as a “neurosis” with an organic basis and Sigmund Freud who redefined “neurosis” as a re-experience of past psychological trauma. Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) made its first official appearance in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders II (DSM-II) and since the DSM-III, HPD is the only disorder that kept the term derived from the old concept of hysteria. The subject of hysteria has reflected positions about health, religion and relationships between the sexes in the last 4000 years, and the discussion is likely to continue.
 

Nykysnottrans

Repeat after me: I am beautiful.
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More displays of sisterhood and solidarity: so there is this butch lesbian called Amy Dyess who is pro-trans and runs a Youtube channel and a Twitter account called LTV, which is basically a gigantic anti-WoLF campaign:

WoLF is an anti-women's & anti-LGBTQ rights org that's a front for the religious right. They pretend to be feminist but actively work against women's rights in the USA. An ex-WoLF member talked to a trans protester before Meghan Murphy's Seattle panel.

The UK has actually been helping WoLF. They’ve been promoting them for days. Posie Parker partnered with them, too. Future videos will show how the UK is being complicit and how they can stop. As for the LGB Alliance, I disagree with their tone and direction.
Here's the ex-WoLF member protesting outside of Meghan Murphy's event with WoLF in Seattle:


More arguing about Posie Parker:

She[=Posie Parker] absolutely dominates. Her cheerleaders are in every group and every GC space even if she isn't. WPUK have distanced themselves from her which i am glad of but it is not honest to downplay the influence fascist barbie has here.
UK head-TERF Julie Bindel shows up in the tweets:

I've made it extremely clear I will NOT work with WOLF, I despise the tactics & politics of Posie Parker, and that. it is an absolute disaster to ally w the Christian right. The problem is Amy, you are firing from all cylinders without really understanding what we are doing here.
Terri Strange talks about how she is dumping all her friends and allies:


I really, really, kind-of, like, feeling severe a lot of the time and making decisions to just, like, cut ties a lot. Because I just don't have the patience for people and I don't have the energy... mainly, I don't have the values. It's what it always comes down to.
Well duh, when you're part of a purist cult that tells you that 99% of all women are "HOP fuck-robots" for how they dress and whether they wear make-up or not, what do you expect will happen? You end up being isolated. Remind you of something?


I don't give a shit who does it, whether it's MRAs doing it or TERFs doing it, "defooing" is a cult practice. Isolating people from everyone by having them adopt the most absurd purity standards is what cults do. I pointed out in the Leah Tverly thread, that Leah had said she was friends with all kinds of women on Facebook, including women who would dress up in a feminine way and and wear make up, but once Leah went radfem she went on to dump all of her old female friends for being "HOP fuck-robots". That's a feminist version of "defooing". If your feminism is so steeped in purism that you can no longer relate to regular women, it's no different from a cult.