Careercow Terry Rose Christo / Theresa Christodoulopoulos / Tara Gilesbie - Pretendian, Author of My Immortal, Currently Writing Fanfic Of Own Life

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Dedenne

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One trend I would love to see come to an end is this trauma porn in fandom. This escalated all the way to a book deal because the sort of person who wants to know what the author of My Immortal is doing in life is the sort of person who would eat up a book about a native woman being sexually abused and trying to find her brother through parody fanfic. I'm sure publishers are aware of this, and that's why it was probably enough to overlook the holes in her story.

This isn't unique to the sort of people who care about fanfiction, either. Look at Zoe Quinn's weird claims during gamergate of sleeping in an elevator shaft. Hell, I bring up Andrew Blake sometimes and he's no stranger to inventing trauma, including crazy stories of having been a child prostitute who was forced to eat poison.

It really feels like a lot of the internet into video games or books or other nerdery is so fixated on trauma in this nasty voyeuristic way and any narrative involving trauma will sell, including fabricated experiences. I want to buy them all copies of A Child Called It and some hand lotion and tell them to get it out of their systems.
 

GethN7

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I haven't actually read it myself, but I've heard it's over the top and probably fake which is what these people eat up.
Well, unlike the crock the subject of this thread was gonna write, Dave Pelzer's story actually has some corroboration with other people that can verify most of what he wrote. This is a suspicion some of it is exaggerated, but no one can pin down what that might be.

Having read Pelzer's story, he'd have to be a far better bullshitter than the subject of this thread to make shit up, and at least he can have people who can verify most of the basics of his account of his abuse as a child.

The idiot this thread is dedicated to has no such advantage for their deceit.
 
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Piga Dgrifm

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I haven't actually read it myself, but I've heard it's over the top and probably fake which is what these people eat up.
To be fair to Pelzer, one of his brothers backs him up, as well as former teachers who would have witnessed signs of the abuse. (However, another of his brothers denies it.)
 

Dedenne

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Ah, I apologize if that was unfair! I really don't know and I should have used an example I was more familiar with, not just one I'd heard of. My main point was that it seems like people are very fixated on stories of trauma to a fairly unhealthy degree and seem to really gobble any of them up, and many people try to capitalize on this. Sorry to derail with that.
 

OneDaySon

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One trend I would love to see come to an end is this trauma porn in fandom. This escalated all the way to a book deal because the sort of person who wants to know what the author of My Immortal is doing in life is the sort of person who would eat up a book about a native woman being sexually abused and trying to find her brother through parody fanfic. I'm sure publishers are aware of this, and that's why it was probably enough to overlook the holes in her story.

This isn't unique to the sort of people who care about fanfiction, either. Look at Zoe Quinn's weird claims during gamergate of sleeping in an elevator shaft. Hell, I bring up Andrew Blake sometimes and he's no stranger to inventing trauma, including crazy stories of having been a child prostitute who was forced to eat poison.

It really feels like a lot of the internet into video games or books or other nerdery is so fixated on trauma in this nasty voyeuristic way and any narrative involving trauma will sell, including fabricated experiences. I want to buy them all copies of A Child Called It and some hand lotion and tell them to get it out of their systems.
It feels like the everyday person doesn't cut it anymore, people want more. And what's scary is now the everyday person with a rough background doesn't cut it anymore, so if they grew up rather poor or grew up raised by adopted parents or a single parent etc. None of that is appreciated anymore as its "not traumatic enough" so these people who've worked hard to get out of their circumstances are now ignored.
 

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It feels like the everyday person doesn't cut it anymore, people want more. And what's scary is now the everyday person with a rough background doesn't cut it anymore, so if they grew up rather poor or grew up raised by adopted parents or a single parent etc. None of that is appreciated anymore as its "not traumatic enough" so these people who've worked hard to get out of their circumstances are now ignored.
Wait, you're telling me there's a market for severely traumatic childhoods? Hot damn, I gotta get in on that.
 

Henry Bemis

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It feels like the everyday person doesn't cut it anymore, people want more. And what's scary is now the everyday person with a rough background doesn't cut it anymore, so if they grew up rather poor or grew up raised by adopted parents or a single parent etc. None of that is appreciated anymore as its "not traumatic enough" so these people who've worked hard to get out of their circumstances are now ignored.
Well, what's punchier: "This is a work of exemplary craft" or "THIS CHANGED MY LIFE?"
 

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It really feels like a lot of the internet into video games or books or other nerdery is so fixated on trauma in this nasty voyeuristic way and any narrative involving trauma will sell, including fabricated experiences. I want to buy them all copies of A Child Called It and some hand lotion and tell them to get it out of their systems.
Trauma is drama and drama is interesting. Shit, why do you think people come to this website?

If it's real, that makes it all the more compelling. Recall how fascinated the Farms was with Jace Connors before it was revealed that Jace was a character and not a real person. It's one thing to read fiction about a character going through unbelievable shit, but another to read about a real-life person going through it, and it being true. There are so many stories out there about real-life people whose lives were stranger or more tragic than ours will ever be, and they gain their own followings. But another thing people like are stories of people overcoming adversity and coming out those situations as better people. There's still people who want Chris-chan to get better. The short period before the Boxing Day Macing Incident was one where more than a few Kiwis, including myself, thought that Chris might genuinely be improving, and people were rooting for him. But Chris being Chris, he had to go and fuck that up.

I think it's entirely possible that Terry wrote My Immortal, became an author, and just had this monkey on her back and wanted to capitalize on it somehow when simply just coming out and doing a reddit AMA wouldn't have gotten her the kind of pity and sympathy that she craved. She comes across like somebody that's not very good at rolling with the punches and laughing at herself. There needed to be drama. And she couldn't retroactively write terrible Spyro the Dragon fanfiction under her account as an excuse for finding her brother, so... here we are.

I feel like this could be a pretty interesting article on its own, so long as it's not written by somebody who just writes about fandom wank for a living.
 

U. cinereoargenteus

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The surrealist things go down on the farms. I saw today that the Rose Christo story was debunked - on tumblr, so it came with a 'but the source is that dirty KF site' warning, naturally - and low and behold, this. From a person-who-was-amused-by-it-in-middle-school standpoint, I'm pleased the genuine author of My Immortal remains a mystery.

From the perspective of a cow watcher, yikes. I'm afraid to say her writing has all the hallmarks of a good old cluster B trainwreck woman. I don't know how much time you spend in beauty parlor, @DawnDusk , but if you take a look you'll see why we're all really glad you didn't let her sink her claws into you. You're right to say she's sick. She is, and I doubt you need us to tell you it isn't something you want to try your hand at curing.
I hope you can put all of this behind you, and I hope the forums haven't been spoiled for you. Bit of a shit show when a place you visit to have a snicker becomes the stage for the stuff that makes you need that good laugh at other people's public stupidity in the first place.
 

Sty✖

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Hey, sorry for necro bumping this thread, but there's this post going around Tumblr at the moment that's gotten quite a lot of notes.

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Link to the post. I'm on mobile right now and can't archive it.

I found about about this thread thanks to this post. Geez was it a ride from the beginning to the end (and oh man, DawnDusk, my heart goes out to you).

Sorry if this is irrelevant now.
 

DawnDusk

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Hey, sorry for necro bumping this thread, but there's this post going around Tumblr at the moment that's gotten quite a lot of notes.

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Link to the post. I'm on mobile right now and can't archive it.

I found about about this thread thanks to this post. Geez was it a ride from the beginning to the end (and oh man, DawnDusk, my heart goes out to you).

Sorry if this is irrelevant now.
It's all right, friend. I'd prefer not to reply to this thread much anymore (that insane mother I've told you all about has found this thread and has upped her attempts to harass me), but it's something of an oddity to me that this debacle is generating 40,000 "reblogs" three months after the dust has settled.

The op of that post calls this site "a notoriously bad website that basically serves as a platform for members of the alt-right to harass, slander, and gang up on marginalized people."
Not only that, but this "jewishkeith" in a later post had the audacity to call me racist for telling the world that my biological sister is Caucasian, just like I am. Furthermore, several people have replied to his posts with the same sentiment, calling me names along the lines of "bigoted trash."

It's a battle that I cannot win. Since the beginning, this massive crowd made up their mind: the more evidence I provided that everything about her memoir, from her race to her foster care quest, was fake, the more incorrigible they became and the more they called me a vile Nazi that deserves death.


I know I shouldn't have bothered reading any of the tripe, but trust me: if tens of thousands of people were reblogging undeserved invective toward you, you'd be a bit curious, too.


I only wish they would understand this about themselves: what they truly care about is My Immortal. They know my sister is not a Native American survivor of foster care, but that was never truly relevant to them. Their actual investment in this ordeal is whether Theresa wrote that story.

Unfortunately for them, I don't know or care whether she did. I took her claim to have done so at face-value when I first saw the articles about Under the Same Stars. To me, the fanfic has never been more than thus: a publicity-generating conduit for a memoir that twisted my person into a complete and insulting fabrication (no less by a sister that, to the contrary of the tale, theretofore refused communication with me).


I'll merely hope that this surge in popularity of my sister's antics is nothing more than an aftershock. It is likely wishful thinking, but I hope my sisters's done with her sordid histrionics and will forge a good path for herself one day.
 

Catetive

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Hey, sorry for necro bumping this thread, but there's this post going around Tumblr at the moment that's gotten quite a lot of notes.

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Link to the post. I'm on mobile right now and can't archive it.

I found about about this thread thanks to this post. Geez was it a ride from the beginning to the end (and oh man, DawnDusk, my heart goes out to you).

Sorry if this is irrelevant now.
Sounds like (((jewishkeith))) really has no issue with someone lying and manipulating tons of people, and exploiting their own brother, if they are a strong lesbian Native American womyn.
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