That time Jace was in court -

[Null]

Ok, but what was jace charged with as a felony in the first place? Driving on a suspended ain't a felony.

You're unlearned. Jace bargained his way up to a felony instead of taking jail time.

 

[Zerstorer]

I don't think CIAdude told him to represent himself in court. I think he literally thought he was a super spy marine that was above the law and that his "status" would allow him to remove a felony from his permanent record. Which is literally one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

 

[Da Big Staw]

You're unlearned. Jace bargained his way up to a felony instead of taking jail time.

Welp, never heard of anything like that before.

But hey! it's jace so thats not so uncommon.

Nvm, i guess it was a DUI, still odd but it makes more sense.

 

[Rogowski]

Yeah I was wrong on that, according to the wiki it was his own choices that made him end up there.

 

[WachtAmWeb]

IIRC, the Judge offered Jace the choice of paying a fine, or having it go down as a felony. Jace didn't have much money at the time and he genuinely believed CIADude420 would wipe his criminal record because Jace was already "basically a Marine". Therefore Jace became a felon, completely ignorant of the fact that it would bar him from gun ownership and voting rights. He later tried to get around the whole not-being-allowed-to-own-guns thing by stealing Gail's credit card (IIRC) and trying to bulk-buy .50AE online.

 

[FlyAwayNow]

Bulk buying ammunition itself is a red flag I imagine. In CT you need a separate permit and a documented reason to buy ammo. I imagine MA has its own buffer system that has picked up Jace in regards to purchases.

 

[DeagleDad420]

In my opinion, paying $50 for clerk fees is a lot less retarded than a lot of other lolcow related shit people have spent money on. I'd be very interested in the results. It would also prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jace is who he says he is. Nobody would take a felony conviction for a gag.

While I agree, as Da Big Staw pointed out, it's entirely possible that even if we shelled out $50 nothing would come up: "The individual must have been convicted of a felony charge and is released from supervision or custody for not longer than a couple of years." The DUI happened in Summer of 2013, it's early Winter 2014 now... The only thing more tragic than paying $50 for lolcow cocks is getting nothing out of it anyway since MA state law is so weirdly designed around protecting privacy (not that that's a bad thing - quite far from it, but inconvenient for us)

 

[Zerstorer]

He later tried to get around the whole not-being-allowed-to-own-guns thing by stealing Gail's credit card (IIRC) and trying to bulk-buy .50AE online.

He did that? Jesus Christ that must have been expensive.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Ok, but what was jace charged with as a felony in the first place? Driving on a suspended ain't a felony.

It wasn't just "driving", he was street racing drunk and got in a crash, and I think he had some priors.

 

[Da Big Staw]

It wasn't just "driving", he was street racing drunk and got in a crash, and I think he had some priors.

Thanks for the intel.

I have watched a bunch of Jace stream ect.. but it's very hard to know/recall everything with no good wiki. I understand it's a monumental undertaking given the amount of content however.

Pretty sure the Felony conviction does not prevent you from voting in MA,Unless your actually in jail.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

I actually like how difficult MA makes getting criminal info. It's a good system to prevent people from getting fucked for life for a small drug charge or something stupid.

No way dude... you can't do the time you shouldn't do the crime.. jeez. Maybe when you're marginally employed at 44 then you'll have had awhile to reflect on your 20 year old marijuana possession. This is why thuggary is rampant in our society!

IIRC, Jace decided to plead out to the felony because CIAdude told him he should and he thought CIAdude could wave his wand and make it magically disappear from his record.

Jace has a felony because of CIADude? or am I not reading this right?


EDIT: I don't understand the a-log rating could someone help me here?

 

[WachtAmWeb]

Jace has a felony because of CIADude? or am I not reading this right?

Not really. Jace has a felony because of how he interpreted a throwaway remark by Agent Williams and because he was too retarded to allow a trained lawyer to represent him in court, and because he was completely ignorant of what being a felon entails, and because he's too narcissistic to actually listen to what the judge was telling him at his hearing.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

Felons can vote in Massachusetts. Not that I think Jace should be voting.

 

[DeagleDad420]

Not really. Jace has a felony because of how he interpreted a throwaway remark by Agent Williams and because he was too retarded to allow a trained lawyer to represent him in court, and because he was completely ignorant of what being a felon entails, and because he's too narcissistic to actually listen to what the judge was telling him at his hearing.

See, this is why I always find it questionable when people are so apt to blame Jace's poor decisions on trolls alone. Trolls may influence his actions, but they don't mind control him. His retarded decisions are his own responsibility and his own fault 99% of the time.

 

[Da Big Staw]

Felons can vote in Massachusetts. Not that I think Jace should be voting.

Not sure there are any states where felons who have been released cant vote.

See, this is why I always find it questionable when people are so apt to blame Jace's poor decisions on trolls alone. Trolls may influence his actions, but they don't mind control him. His retarded decisions are his own responsibility and his own fault 99% of the time.

The trolls never forced Jace to go break the law, or get caught. Jace was could have simply not listened to them.

 

[KatsuKitty]

I think this is a relevant question. We're asking this in chat. What would Jace's jail time have been if he didn't take the "deal"? I'm wondering if he should've just sucked it up and taken a few months in county jail as opposed to having an unexpungeable felony on his record for life, or if it would even make a difference.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

Not sure there are any states where felons who have been released cant vote.

There are eleven US states that disenfranchise some or all felons, in some cases permanently.

 

[Da Big Staw]

There are eleven US states that disenfranchise some or all felons, in some cases permanently.

Wow, i had no idea. Not surprised by the states listed sadly.

It's not even all of them are "murder, rape ect.. your not voting" some of them are just commit a felony and your fucked for a while at least.

 

[BillRiley]

I think this is a relevant question. We're asking this in chat. What would Jace's jail time have been if he didn't take the "deal"? I'm wondering if he should've just sucked it up and taken a few months in county jail as opposed to having an unexpungeable felony on his record for life, or if it would even make a difference.

I think Jace having a felony record is good for a couple of reasons.

1 - It prevents him from obtaining an FID. It doesn't prevent Commander Lazy Eye from buying a gun, but it removes a lot of his weapons buying options and, frankly, I think Jace is just too stupid and lazy to ever buy one illegally. So, yeah, Jace - firearms = a marginally safer world.

and

B - If he thinks he's been banhammered from voting and buying .50 cal hand cannons, that's a net positive since it gives him an excuse to pout and play games - which are two of his favorite activities. So it's not all downside for our future veteran wolf-souled Marine.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

I think this is a relevant question. We're asking this in chat. What would Jace's jail time have been if he didn't take the "deal"? I'm wondering if he should've just sucked it up and taken a few months in county jail as opposed to having an unexpungeable felony on his record for life, or if it would even make a difference.

http://dui.drivinglaws.org/mass.php

According to that link, if this was his first offense, he could be incarcerated for a maximum of 30 months, pay a fine of $500 to $5,000 and have his license suspended for a year.

If he would have refused to take the drug test his license would have been suspended for six months.