The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

Cpl. Long Dong Silver

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Can anyone explain to me the popularity of the hard right agenda? I can wrap my head around the fiscal aspects (low tax blah blah) but what does the average citizen benefit from having no availability of pregnancy termination? especially in a Covid-19 stricken world.

Unity
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Rejection of degeneracy
National pride
Racial pride

All the things strong countries have. I'm sorry I want to hold women and men accountable for their actions instead of killing the unborn out of convenience

Also covid is just the fucking flu. You should use the "its immoral to bring children into a world of climate change" if you're trying for the bugman appeal to emotion.
 

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If condoms are 85% effective, they're 15% ineffective. I don't know how often you have sex but for most of us that's way more risky than we're comfortable with.

Birth control pills affect women hormonally and have been shown to alter what is found sexually attractive; specifically it makes women prefer more feminine looking men / lower testosterone men. The reason is fairly obvious if you know that the pill works by tricking a woman's body into thinking it's already pregnant. Switches a woman from wanting a strong, powerful man to prioritising nurturing and supportive.

Morning after pills make you feel crappy and what exactly are you thinking here - that they should be taken frequently as a routine birth control method? That's stupid.

Frankly, your weird determination to win an argument with a woman who is promoting IUDs (which modern ones have really good success rate and are pretty easy to fit) is dumb.



Even an average 5.5" penis can be pretty uncomfortable up your anus. I'm pretty sure unless you're used to this, that a cock that size vigourously pumping up and down your arse would make you pretty uncomfortable. You only have to be a couple of inches more than that for it to get really uncomfortable. Especially if you're also wide or she is petite. Most women aren't porn stars, you know? Also, and I can't believe I'm having to point this out to you - vaginal sex is a lot more stimulating for the woman.

Okay. you're too dumb to keep talking to. Fuck off, now.
IUDs are not 100% either, ergo babies born clutching them in their hands. Nothing is 100% in life so if bc, of any kind, fails then you have the option of early termination. For all the hysterical women blubbering about "muh abortion rights" let me remind you all Roe v Wade is established law and the two women likely to be nominated are on record repeating it's established law and they'll adhere to stare decisis. Highly unlikely it'll be overturned in the near future.

The Planned Parenthood grift though is another issue entirely. Their funding will probably be cut off.
 

Sweetpeaa

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No one is forcing you to fuck, it's your own choice. Don't want a baby, use the options available dumbass.

Female fertility is not switched off and on like light. The most effective BC method is an IUD but even this has failure rates. So you're suggesting that adult women in marriages and long term relationships for one reason or another who don't want children should just not ''fuck''?
 

Grapefruit Soda

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Female fertility is not switched off and on like light. The most effective BC method is an IUD but even this has failure rates. So you're suggesting that adult women in marriages and long term relationships for one reason or another who don't want children should just not ''fuck''?
Adult women can make their own choices, if you fuck there will always be a risk of pregnancy, cause that's how we evolved. Don't want a baby, be careful when you fuck, or don't fuck at all, it really is that simple.
 

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Female fertility is not switched off and on like light. The most effective BC method is an IUD but even this has failure rates. So you're suggesting that adult women in marriages and long term relationships for one reason or another who don't want children should just not ''fuck''?
No one will be forcing women to bear children in the USA in the future. If the troonarchry takes over then you will be forced to give them your womb as reparations so either way you're cool.
 

ChikN10der

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I guess conservatives may finally get their wish to repeal abortion anyway they can.

Keep an eye on the Civil Rights Act.
Civil rights act was overwhelmingly supported by Republicans and opposed by democrats. Additionally, the supreme court cannot repeal laws.
You can't repeal abortion because abortion isn't a law. They could rule against existing precedent which blocks enforcement of anti abortion laws, but those laws still have to be passed.

Aka oh no elected officials will be responsible for making law, and be accountable for them.

Maybe Dems should have worked on convincing a majority of the population to see it their way instead of claiming it's a constitutional right to kill babies.
 

Syaoran Li

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Holy shit wtf is wrong with women, has everyone forgotten Plan B or mifepristone+ misoprostol aka the abortion pill? And barrier methods like the diaphragm and/or condoms are extremely effective.

A lot of the traditionalist faggots who want to ban abortion also want to restrict birth control and contraception because "muh degeneracy" or some bullshit

Can anyone explain to me the popularity of the hard right agenda? I can wrap my head around the fiscal aspects (low tax blah blah) but what does the average citizen benefit from having no availability of pregnancy termination? especially in a Covid-19 stricken world.

Because they're a bunch of edgy pretentious traditionalist cocksucker tryhards who think that the puritan rednecks of the old Religious Right were too lenient.

They're mostly petty Zoomers who don't remember the actual fundies and instead like to LARP as the Knights Templar (if Catholic) or the Puritans and KKK (if Protestant) and more or less love to suck Yahweh's circumcised Israelite cock to trigger and own the "degenerates"

I'm pro-abortion, partly because I'm an anti-traditionalist and partly because there's already not enough room on the lifeboat. Considering the majority of people who get abortions are either hood rats and rednecks, it's not like we're aborting the next doctor or engineer either

TL;DR-There's a lot of edgelords who've seen way too many videos from The Distributist and Nick Fuentes
 
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ChikN10der

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Female fertility is not switched off and on like light. The most effective BC method is an IUD but even this has failure rates. So you're suggesting that adult women in marriages and long term relationships for one reason or another who don't want children should just not ''fuck''?
Are you seriously suggesting married couples use abortion as birth control?

You don't know what you're talking about.
 

TyrasGuard

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A marriage without a sex life is highly unrealistic for most people.

Many of the lolcows we laugh at manage to live without it for decades, we aren't we investigating the source of their powers?

On a more serious note, use all protection you can, if you still get preggo then tough luck. I personally don't like it but it's how the rules are made. If it was up to me i'd just let anyone do whatever because each case tells a different story and you can't just lump them all in the same bag. I know it sucks for women but men don't like accidentally impregnating someone either.

One of the reasons why i don't like this topic in particular is because no matter what you choose, somebody will always whine about it. So, whatever they decide will have a drawback for someone. It's one of those "it is what it is" sorts of deals and have to just accept it.
 

rocknrollmartian

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No one is forcing you to fuck, it's your own choice. Don't want a baby, use the options available dumbass.

Seriously. "Forced pregnancy" in a country with access to numerous forms of hormonal and nonhormonal birth control (the Pill, IUDs, implants, condoms, diaphragms, spermicides, and emergency contraception, plus charting apps and the obvious ability to abstain altogether), yet somehow millions of women are magically getting knocked up with unwanted babies every day. 🙄 It's pathetic and makes us women look hideously irresponsible, retarded, callous, and selfish, though I suppose that's modern feminism in a nutshell.
 

Feline Supremacist

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Civil rights act was overwhelmingly supported by Republicans and opposed by democrats. Additionally, the supreme court cannot repeal laws.
You can't repeal abortion because abortion isn't a law. They could rule against existing precedent which blocks enforcement of anti abortion laws, but those laws still have to be passed.

Aka oh no elected officials will be responsible for making law, and be accountable for them.

Maybe Dems should have worked on convincing a majority of the population to see it their way instead of claiming it's a constitutional right to kill babies.
People are forgetting SCOTUS interprets the Constitution and that's it. Is the ability to get an abortion or discriminating on the basis of sex, color or religion a right under the Constitution? The Court ruled years ago yes you have a right to an abortion if you want one and no the government or businesses can't discriminate against you for being a minority, religious or a man/woman. Anyone thinking conservatives judges are going to overturn years of established law and bring back coat hangers and Jim Crow are delusional.
A lot of the (((traditionalist))) faggots who want to ban abortion also want to restrict birth control and contraception because "muh degeneracy" or some bullshit
lol wtf
 

Sweetpeaa

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Are you seriously suggesting married couples use abortion as birth control?

You don't know what you're talking about.

''Fail safe'' comes to mind. Abortion is the next best thing when you BC or IUD fails to work. What do you care what other people do? especially adults.

I would worry about the people who kill and abuse their living children instead.
 

Syaoran Li

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People are forgetting SCOTUS interprets the Constitution and that's it. Is the ability to get an abortion or discriminating on the basis of sex, color or religion a right under the Constitution? The Court ruled years ago yes you have a right to an abortion if you want one and no the government or businesses can't discriminate against you for being a minority, religious or a man/woman. Anyone thinking conservatives judges are going to overturn years of established law and bring back coat hangers and Jim Crow are delusional.

lol wtf

It sounds crazy but that's one of the hallmarks of the old Religious Right was a call to restrict access to birth control as well as ban abortion.

Granted, I don't hear that one quite as much from the Zoomer traditionalist faggot types so it's possible they've realized that trying to restrict condoms and the pill while also banning abortion is counter-productive.
 
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