The Achievement Hunter fandom -

Gan

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Achievement Hunter is a YouTube gaming video/let's play collective that operates as a branch of Rooster Teeth, a machinima studio most famous for the Halo-based Red vs. Blue series. With the popularity of an established brand backing them, affable personalities and a sense of humor that's at least a cut above the average YouTube LPer, their sizable fan-base comes as no surprise.

The actions those fans take, however...well.

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As with any group of fans this large, many of them have sunk into disturbing behavior patterns: drawing horrible porn and cringey fanart of Minecraft LPs, shipping infant versions of Real Human Beings together (no, really), and generally being fucking terrible. It has to be stated that all of this is over people who play video games on the internet. But that's not even the worst of it.

The Achievement Hunter fan-base comes mostly from tumblr, and is therefore completely mired in tumblr culture. This means one thing primarily: a vast majority of them base their entire lives around people playing video games, and are completely unable to accept that a bunch of gamer dudes might not care about social justice politics as much as they do. Case in point:

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Generally after an incident like this happens, people will do anything from threatening violence towards AH themselves, to sending death threats and harassment to fans who support them, to harassing their spouses for retribution and whatever else is considered a reasonable reaction to someone making a joke within a 50 mile radius of tumblr.

This isn't the first time something like this has happened in the fandom, and it definitely won't be the last. There's a lot more to all of this, more blogs, more horrible fanart, more jokes that caused fan shitstorms, but I'd rather cut it off here before it gets too long. I think this is more than enough for anyone seeing it for the first time.
 

lolwut

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It seems absolutely bizarre that they can get over 3 million subscribers yet every comment on their videos is from someone who claims they're never going to watch them again. I'm one of a very small minority in my area who watches them, so for the longest time time I felt like the only fan that either A) Didn't want to see them fuck or B) Didn't want to see them killed.
 

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It seems absolutely bizarre that they can get over 3 million subscribers yet every comment on their videos is from someone who claims they're never going to watch them again. I'm one of a very small minority in my area who watches them, so for the longest time time I felt like the only fan that either A) Didn't want to see them fuck or B) Didn't want to see them killed.

Lindsay's in this video? Never gonna watch again.
Kerry's in this video? Never gonna watch again.
Caleb's in this video? DIE CALEB
 

Gan

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Shit like this don't happen in the Super Best Friends fanbase... at least, not as far as I can see.

Why is it that the Achievement Hunters fans seem to be so cray-cray in particular?
I don't really know. These kinds of things seem to crop up at random; for example, the Game Grumps fandom is pretty comparable, but other LP fanbases like SBF not so much. The only thing I can think of is the idea that if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile: act gay with each other and they'll think you're being 100% serious about it. Then the shipping comes, then the porn, then the tumblr fanbase, etc. That was the case with Game Grumps, anyway. Even got Egoraptor accused of queer-baiting...for joking around with his friend, who is a real person, not a fictional character.
 

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I saw the title of this thread and my thought process was:
> It's gonna be one of those communities of people who 100% Xbox games for achievements.
> Or, it's gonna be the same as point A except with Steam games.
> My partner and I are achievement whores.
> Better get ready to run damage control in this thread.

Then I get here and see it's a shitty YouTube series by Rooster Teeth. Disaster averted! :biggrin:

I can get the appeal of Let's Play series, but I can't wrap my mind around people who make their living off of Minecraft LP's. It's not an original thing anymore, and I can't stand it. How many times can you mine a block and get spooked by one of those green " D: " monsters before it gets old?
 

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Rooster Teeth and especially their fanbase is worth devoting an entire thread to in general. Achievement hunter is good for a laugh though.

I will say I do still like some of Rooster Teeth's stuff (mostly Red Vs Blue's first 5 seasons) and I have watched a handful of good Achievement Hunter videos. The best one that comes to mind is where they counted how many times Mafia 2 said the word "Fuck" (it won a Guinness world record for it at the time)
 

Gan

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Rooster Teeth and especially their fanbase is worth devoting an entire thread to in general. Achievement hunter is good for a laugh though.

I will say I do still like some of Rooster Teeth's stuff (mostly Red Vs Blue's first 5 seasons) and I have watched a handful of good Achievement Hunter videos. The best one that comes to mind is where they counted how many times Mafia 2 said the word "Fuck" (it won a Guinness world record for it at the time)
You could make this into a general Rooster Teeth thread if you'd like, I'm just not as familiar with the rest of the company's stuff. I know from experience that RWBY fans are obnoxious, though. And yeah, they do have some alright stuff. I like some of the Rage Quit videos Michael does.
 

Meowthkip

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I don't really know. These kinds of things seem to crop up at random; for example, the Game Grumps fandom is pretty comparable, but other LP fanbases like SBF not so much. The only thing I can think of is the idea that if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile: act gay with each other and they'll think you're being 100% serious about it. Then the shipping comes, then the porn, then the tumblr fanbase, etc. That was the case with Game Grumps, anyway. Even got Egoraptor accused of queer-baiting...for joking around with his friend, who is a real person, not a fictional character.

In Arin's defense, he's got a list of at least Top 20 dudes that he would have sex with.

He's at least a little bit gay.
 

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Really? The fan base I can understand, but Rooster Teeth itself seems less crazy than a lot of other internet celebrities.
Agreed, RT seems to be a mixed bag that has everything between sheer awesome and utterly snooze-inducing. But nothing really that would warrant getting annoyed about.
 

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Not sure what the Farm's rules are on necro, but since this would be the only relevant thread to deposit this information, I'm going to do so.
I'm surprised no one brought up the Knuckles Dawson controversy in this thread, even when he disappeared and was found dead.
Granted, the last post was made before shit hit the fan on April 10, 2015, but I'll let it pass.
For those who do not not know what I'm talking about, here is the rundown:

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David "Knuckles Dawson" Dreger was an early community contributor to Rooster Teeth's Achievement Hunters, similar to Jeremy Dooley and Matt Bragg were prior to being hired. He was very involved in the community around the time Jack Patillo and Geoff Ramsey were doing Fails of the Week.
Here he is in one of the early Achievement Hunter updates:
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Some of the Achievement Hunter guides he did for Trials HD:
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He also provided voice work for background characters in Red vs. Blue, Rooster Teeth's flagship show:

Dreger with Jack Pattillo at PAX 2009:
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Sometime in 2011, Rooster Teeth inexplicably cut all ties with him and left fans dumbfounded over the situation.
Here is Achievement Hunter's Jack Pattillo in AMA on reddit confirming Rooster Teeth's company policy on Dreger:
He is no longer involved with Rooster Teeth Productions and will not be in the future.

On May 26, 2013, Dreger disappeared:

About a month later, his body was discovered:

Rooster Teeth co-founder, Burnie Burns, made this statement:
As many of you know, former Rooster Teeth contributor David "Knuckles Dawson" Dreger has been missing since May 26. I am sorry to write that David's body was found June 20th near a park north of Vancouver. Here is the statement from his family:

"We are thankful that the prayers for discovery made by everyone during this time have been answered. It is with deep sadness that we must let you all know that David's body was discovered on June 20 near Ambleside Park. We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their prayers, support and compassion. David was an exceptional, bright, caring and loving young man. We consider ourselves blessed to have had him in our lives, and are comforted knowing that he is now embraced in the arms of our Lord.
Love, Daryl, LeeAnn and Danielle."


I knew David from his early twenties to the time of his death at twenty-eight. He was a common sight at many of our community events and an early invaluable contributor to our Achievement Hunter brand. His passion for gaming was fueled by a youthful intensity unlike any other. I am immeasurably sad for its absence and my condolences go out to all his grieving family and friends.

Red vs. Blue's episode 2 of Season 11 contained a memorial message to Dreger in the outro:
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On April 10, 2015, former Rooster Teeth employee Brandon "Fragger" Light revealed why Rooster Teeth ostracized Dreger
(the original no longer exists):
Thankfully, someone did screencap the original post:
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Fragger responded in a reddit post to clarify himself:
Hello everyone, Fragger here. Poke me on twitter or whatever but this is me.
sigh Looks like I have to clarify a few things here.
First of all I in no way feel bad about what we did at the time. Hindsight is 20/20 but looking back we did a lot of what needed to be done. What I AM sorry about is that we didn't go further. Talk about it publicly, get the police involved, SOMETHING to make sure it didn't happen again.
Second: Everything I wrote is information that I have either seen/experienced myself. None of that was hearsay.
Third: I did keep a few things out due to being very emotional or things I did not feel important at the time. It was not one night. It was over several. The first text was on Thursday night and it went all the way into Sunday. It was not just at night. It was morning and during the day. It was not just texts, it was also phone calls.
Fourth: Why now? I had a breakdown about it recently. This was the only way for me to move past it and onward with my life. I hope that is what is going to happen.
Now then I would like to stop seeing people saying I was defending him. No, no fucking way. I am sorry about the fact that this topic is never talked about. We NEED to.
The only way to make sure that this kind of shit doesn't happen again is to let people know that they are not alone. They are not powerless. They don't us berating them screaming "Where is the proof?!?" Proof does need to be givin BUT they don't owe it to us, just the proper authorities.
There might be more people coming forward with their own stories please respect them

What's surprising is that there are no Youtube videos or anything addressing this whole situation.
Furthermore, I am not aware of anyone else claiming they were solicited by Dreger.
I do have a question for Kiwis regarding this:
If police records were filed, would we be able to find them?
 
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Not sure what the Farm's rules are on necro, but since this would be the only relevant thread to deposit this information, I'm going to do so.
I'm surprised no one brought up the Knuckles Dawson controversy in this thread, even when he disappeared and was found dead.
Granted, the last post was made before shit hit the fan on April 10, 2015, but I'll let it pass.
For those who do not not know what I'm talking about, here is the rundown:

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David "Knuckles Dawson" Dreger was an early community contributor to Rooster Teeth's Achievement Hunters, similar to Jeremy Dooley and Matt Bragg were prior to being hired. He was very involved in the community around the time Jack Patillo and Geoff Ramsey were doing Fails of the Week.
Here he is in one of the early Achievement Hunter updates:
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Some of the Achievement Hunter guides he did for Trials HD:
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He also provided voice work for background characters in Red vs. Blue, Rooster Teeth's flagship show:

Dreger with Jack Pattillo at PAX 2009:

Sometime in 2011, Rooster Teeth inexplicably cut all ties with him and left fans dumbfounded over the situation.
Here is Achievement Hunter's Jack Pattillo in AMA on reddit confirming Rooster Teeth's company policy on Dreger:


On May 26, 2013, Dreger disappeared:

About a month later, his body was discovered:

Rooster Teeth co-founder, Burnie Burns, made this statement:


Red vs. Blue's episode 2 of Season 11 contained a memorial message to Dreger in the outro:
Archive:
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On April 10, 2015, former Rooster Teeth employee Brandon "Fragger" Light revealed why Rooster Teeth ostracized Dreger
(the original no longer exists):
Thankfully, someone did screencap the original post:
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Fragger responded in a reddit post to clarify himself:


What's surprising is that there are no Youtube videos or anything addressing this whole situation.
Furthermore, I am not aware of anyone else claiming they were solicited by Dreger.
I do have a question for Kiwis regarding this:
If police records were filed, would we be able to find them?

As mentioned previously, when Dreger disappeared after the allegations were made by Fragger he cleaned his personal website to the bone leaving only a gif of this scene from Dumb and Dumber. (26/05/13)

The day before they found the body of David "Knuckles Dawson" Dreger they made this joke on episode 57 of their Minecraft Let's Play. (21/06/13)


Their Let's Plays at this time were usually filmed about a week or two in advance meaning that the website had been displaying this gif for between 1 and 3 weeks and the community had already rallied via reddit and tumblr to find David/Knuckles

There's actually a little context from just before where Gav says "Stone slabs huh, that's cool." Geoff then says the joke again with a different intonation and Jack, Geoff and Ray laugh at it. The thing that settles it for me being in reference to the body is the laugh/choke Ray makes since that's exactly the humour he'd like at the time but also sounds like a joke that he expected to be cut.

Fortunately I'm not the only one who noticed it may be in reference to the Dreger thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BmmBcLTiDA&google_comment_id=Ugy9wtYa687IrYLXTAh4AaABAg
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Every video I've mentioned I've also downloaded, I've just not had the time to chop them into clips to upload yet. I'll be editing them into my comments where they are most relevant.

Edit: Leaving a little wiggle room to tidy up the timeline. Asked to post this here by @5t3n0g0ph3r
If anything else needs trimming or sorting let me know.
 
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As mentioned previously, when Dreger disappeared after the allegations were made by Fragger he cleaned his personal website to the bone leaving only a gif of this scene from Dumb and Dumber. (26/05/13)

The day before they found the body of David "Knuckles Dawson" Dreger they made this joke on episode 57 of their Minecraft Let's Play. (21/06/13)


Their Let's Plays at this time were usually filmed about a week or two in advance meaning that the website had been displaying this gif for between 1 and 3 weeks and the community had already rallied via reddit and tumblr to find David/Knuckles

There's actually a little context from just before where Gav says "Stone slabs huh, that's cool." The thing that settles it for me being in reference to the body is the laugh/choke Ray makes since that's exactly the humour he'd like at the time but also the sound he'd make a joke that he expected to be cut.

Fortunately I'm not the only one who noticed it may be in reference to the Dreger thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BmmBcLTiDA&google_comment_id=Ugy9wtYa687IrYLXTAh4AaABAg
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Every video I've mentioned I've also downloaded, I've just not had the time to chop them into clips to upload yet. I'll be editing them into my comments where they are most relevant.

Edit: Leaving a little wiggle room to tidy up the timeline. Asked to post this here by @5t3n0g0ph3r
If anything else needs trimming or sorting let me know.

Forgive me, was it Ray who made the reference? Because it sounded like Geoff to me.
 
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