Trashfire The BetterHelp, CreatorHealth, InfluenceLogic Rabbit Hole - Candid 2.0, brought to you by Joel Robbinson


They look like my tweets.
Recently starting in September, an influx of videos pertaining to a discussion of mental health, depression and anxiety had ignited the new YouTube trend. First emerging after YouTuber Elle Mills' publicised 'YouTube Burnout', a pattern in videos started to emerge in whereby creators suddenly revealed their bouts of 'depression' and mental health problems, meanwhile also promoting the online service BetterHelp as 'another resource to fight depression' and get help, with affiliate links in the descriptions. Notable YouTubers include Boogie2988, Shane Dawson, Phillip DeFranco, and Bobby Burns. This sponsored 'resource' is where the problem lies.

BetterHelp is described as an online therapy service, and advertised as the alternative to face-to-face counselling. BetterHelp is detailed as hosting professional and licensed therapists to tend to your needs, with 24hr availability and access to a host of communication methods, whether it be instant messaging, voice calls, video calls, etc.

BetterHelp is pimped out by a shady non-entity known as CreatorHealth, itself very discretely managed by the owner of InfluenceLogic, a marketing company specifically setup for getting YT content creators to shill. There is a post explaining their broader network here. InfluenceLogic is an affiliate marketer and BetterHelp uses affiliate marketing, so their relation seems incidental. Here's an explanation of how to deduced who recruited the YTer, but a comprehensive list of YTers and who their top-level affiliate is can be found here.

We've made a convenient image summarizing what's wrong with BetterHelp.

Thanks to the help of Memology101's videos and some farmers, BetterHelp is being revealed to be a massive scam that preys on the mentally ill and impressionable fans of content creators. I will try to compile all findings and lists of concerns in this post.

The Pricing

Currently, YouTubers are shilling this as the 'cheaper alternative' to professional counselling, yet scammed customers have come forth in claiming that's not exactly true.

BetterHelp's weekly rates range from $35-$80USD per week. Yet users of the service have complain that they have been randomly charged for two months without refund nor explanation. Some without ever even pairing up with a therapist.
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"Licensed Therapists"

The main attraction to BetterHelp's service is derived from its promotion of 'professional and licensed therapists'. However, looking into the terms and conditions of the website shows that not only do BetterHelp hold no liability for the services provided, stating that all responsibility lies within the customer and their counsellor, but they do not assure the quality, skills, certification or even employment of said therapists.
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Furthermore, according to their website, BetterHelp is HIPAA (the U.S's Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) certified, yet as pointed out in Memology101's video, their terms and conditions contradict this as they claim no accountability if something were to happen.

Unprofessionalism and Negative Experiences

In light of this knowledge, it's easy to make the connection as to why a large sum of people have a negative experience with BetterHelp. Customers detail the unprofessionalism of therapists they were match up with, and in some cases even rudeness and disrespect. Many users have experienced being outright turned away, due to being in a 'crisis' situation or not suited for BetterHelp's services. This has lead many to believe the company preys on the 'not actually depressed' to better extort them without risk of dealing with a 'real' mentally ill case.

YouTuber Deschroma also made a video detailing her negative experience with BetterHelp.

Shane Dawson's Ploy

I won't go into much detail here as Memology's 5th episode covers it well, but it has been suspected that Shane Dawson's new documentary series on the Paul brothers is really just a marketing gimmick for shilling BetterHelp, as he 'dissects' the brothers' 'sociopathic' tendencies with therapist Kati Morton, who has appeared in a number of videos promoting BetterHelp across YouTube.

Extra Information

I've hopefully roughly covered all the main aspects of criticism in regards to BetterHelp, so now I'll just list some further info and the Memology videos. Thanks to @vhstape for gathering a lot of this data!

Note: This has not been verified by some of the more experienced R&D users on the site. Take everything with a grain of salt, but for expediency's sake we have moved it out to the open.

Some basic info on the shill "therapist"
Mail: PO Box #665 1223 Wilshire Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90403
Business email:
Online shop:
Amazon store page:

Very little info I could find on Happyable, Inc. which she is co-founder of

BetterHelp was acquired by Teladoc in 2015

Teladoc seems to be doing very well and seeing a lot of growth currently

"BetterHelp, the leading e-counseling service worldwide, today announced, a service offering online counseling for Christians. Every counselor on the platform is a practicing Christian who seeks to integrate appropriate faith-based guidance with their clinical practice."

Founder of betterhelp is a man called Alon Matas

from his linkedin
"IDF - Israel Defence Forces
6 years

Interview with him:

Worth noting he has no qualification relating to any medical field going off the public information.

Edit, found other stuff:
seems they are not only using youtube to shill

Also found Alon Matas's reddit account:
1. 24 Frames Of Nick

2. Theo Von

3. New Rockstars

4. Steebee Weebee

5. Self-Helpless Podcast

6. boogie2988

7. Philip DeFranco

8. Andrei Terbea

9. Shane Dawson

10. Domics

11. Glam&Gore

12. SuperCarlinBrothers

13. Bobby Duke Arts

14. jacksfilms

15. Bart Baker

16. Riley J. Dennis

17. Destiny

18. Ash Hardell

19. JelloApocalypse

20. Good Mythical Morning

21. Beckie Jane Brown

22. BaerTaffy

23. Alex Meyers

24. Karim Jovian

25. Steph Pappas

26. Patricia Bright

27. Stepsof2Foreigners

28. Michael McCrudden

29. Thee Mademoiselle

30. storybooth

31. ArtistJodySteel

32. Jackson Bird

33. Caddicarus

34. Zoey Arielle

35. stonewall008

36. Adventures of Zach and B

37. Varia&Co

38. MrCreepyPasta

39. Rhian HY

40. Andywarski

41. Josh Peck

42. The Young Turks

43. Milo Stewart

44. Kati Morton

45. lacigreen

46. JaclynGlenn

47. H3H3

48. David Pakman Show

49. emilia fart

50. Double Toasted

51. Jasmine and Joshua

52. Bobby Burns

53. Domics

54. Jason Nash

55. Gibi ASMR

56. blndsundoll4mj

57. Claire Michelle

58. BigDawsTv

59. ASMRrequests

60. Anna Akana

61. The Gabbie Vlogs

62. Rose and Rosie Vlogs

63. Creative Calm ASMR

64. Love ASMR by Ana Muñoz

65. alpha m.

66. SophieMichelle ASMR

67. Catplant ASMR

68. Laineybot

69. Thedailysign

70. Sarah Hawkinson

71. Brittany ASMR

72. Carolyn's RV Life

73. V-Squared

74. ASMR DeutscheVita

75. Leeor Alexandra

76. Michael Henry

77. Emmmabooks

78. Stolentoilet

80.Depression to Expression

81. Meditations by Rasa

82. Gus Johnson

83. Marinashutup

84. How to ADHD

85. Kayla Ward

86. Arielle Scarcella

87. MasakoX

88. Kandy Kakes

89. Angel Souls

90. Deni ASMRCZ

91. Victoria Wiggins

92. Memeulous

93. Jellybean Green ASMR

94. The Viet Vegan

95. Back to Chubby

96. Kelly Eden

97. Misha Grimes

98. Mekkk

99. Jimmy Hazelwood

100. Pelagea ASMR

101. Dr Dray

102. Wisecrack

103. LuckyHell

104. ASMR Is Awesome

105. EmuEmi

106. Jackson Miloh

107. Be Inspired

108. LoseitlikeLauren

109. Stillsoundlyawake

110. AMY LEE

111. The Rational National

112. adam22

113. Atozy

114. Syren Cove

115. Romeo Lacoste

116. Lauren Elizabeth

117. Thoughty2

118. DavidSoComedy

119. Roly

120. Mother's Basement

121. ScreenPrism


123. Allegra Shaw

124. Teachingmensfashion

125. batinthesun

126. Rob Dyke

127. John Flickinger

128. Taylor Nicole Dean

129. Anime America

130. Carly and Erin

131. Scotty Sire

132. Tristan Paredes

133. Hitomi Mochizuki

134. sexplanations

135. Heath Hussar

136. MxR Mods

137. Charisma on Command

138. Brianna K

139. MissMangoButt

140. Stephanie Soo

141. Olivia Kissper ASMR

142. Sarah Hawkinson

143. MissFenderr

144. LatreceASMR

145. Drew Lynch

146. Nite Shift ASMR

147. Howsenselessdeath Howpreciouslife

148. Peace and Saraity ASMR

149. Jason Stephenson - Sleep Meditation Music

150. Andrew Quo

151. WelshDrive

152. Authentic Mental Health

153. Kimberly H

154. Royko64

155. ClickForTaz

156. Ron Placone

157. Book Roast

158. Ladle By Ladle

159. Marno ASMR

160. Articulate Design ASMR

161. ASMR blossom

162. Carrie Dayton

163. Amanda the Jedi

164. Holli + Huckleberry

165. Sammy-Marie Grimm

166. Plant Based Bride

167. Daisy Foxglove

168. FrivolousFox ASMR

169. Fatima Francesa

170. Lily Whispers ASMR

171. FairyBlossom & Friends ASMR

172. Good Eating ASMR

173. More Salt Please

174. BohemianWhisper ASMR

175. Kat Napiorkowska

176. Tingting ASMR

177. ASMR Barber

178. Karlie Reneé

179. Creepy Team

180. Johnnie June

181. NiwaLeaf

182. CardlinAudio

183. Whitewinterwhispers


185. 2Spooky

186. Rapunzel ASMR

187. Elizabeth Grace

188. Rob Dyke (thanks to Gus45 for finding this one)

189. Jenna Moreci

190. Carrie Dayton

191. JuiceHead

192. Depression Talks With Immanuel

193. Laura Krause

194. Jenny Ernst

195. Devin With An Eye

196. Experiencing Nirvana

197. heyitsfeiii

198. Jordan Shrinks

199. WoodyWoodrow

200. Meet Matt Shep

201. Ryan Minaj

202. Macy Eleni

203. Tristan Paredes

204. Kbaby

205. DeMars Coaching

206. Sarah Acree

207. Kenny Moffitt

208. MakeupMesha

209. Sara Prostran

210. Charles Gross


212. Video Advice

213. MaxFloz

214. The Fruit Doctor

215. Anna Clendening

216. stolentoilet

217. gwengwizetc

218. PJ Dreams ASMR

219. Jenny Mustard

220. Channon Rose

221. The Rewired Soul

222. FlexitarianFood&Fitness

223. NiwaLeaf

224. Stephanie Soo

225. Arasulè ASMR

226. ashnichrist

227. Emily Lee

228. Speed Pharmacology

229. Darkling ASMR

230. LizziesAnswers

231. ayydubs

232. Lucas

233. Cody Ko

234. Michelle Platti

235. Louie's Life

236. Ellie Thumann

237. TheSamTsui

238. Sierra Schultzzie

239. Carly and Martina

240. Joanna Simon

241. Sam&Alyssa

242. MilesChronicles

243. itsbobbymares

244. Kelsey Kreppel

245. YourMomsHousePodcast

246. SteveTerreberry

247. MissRemiAshten

248. ElleOfTheMills

249. AsapSCIENCE

250. UFD Tech

251. SimpleFlips

252. Viral Killer

253. DanDanTheFireman

254. Psych2Go

255. Pinnacle of Man TM

256. The Fairly Local Vegan

257. tiffanyferg

258. Blaire White

259. BreeAnn Barbie

260. Alex Meyers

261. Georgia Marie

262. Jackson Bird

263. ChandlerNWilson

264. JustDestiny

265. EnvyMaliceMikki

266. CircleToonsHD

267. LAHWF

268. Tony Bomboni ASMR

269. Amber Loves Mystery

270. AlexMax Han

271. Ferryn & Bella

272. CAM ASMR & Massage

273. NayaReadsandSmiles

274. A Place to Nest

275. Tyler Rugge

276. Will Jardell

277. Karuna Satori ASMR

278. Alex G

279. Two Beeps

280. Kat Wonders

281. Haru the Shiba Inu

282. Imari Stuart

283. TheMonasteroTwins

284. Stephen Hansink

285. Lucy Elizabeth

286. Brooke Houts

287. Cristian Oliveras

288. Kaeden Harveland

289. GwenGwiz ASMR

290. Savannah Brymer

291. The Josh Speaks

292. Calum McSwiggan


294. Tony Bomboni ASMR

295. Elsie Lovelock

296. Anna Campbell

297. Alva Velasco

298. Meghan Tonjes

299. LAHWF

300. T1J

301. Tanner Braungardt

302. Dominick Whelton

303. Hailey Reese

304. Living Rosa

305. Kelly Eden

306. Rhian HY

307. Katrin Berndt

308. Shelbizleee

309. Node

310. Nikocado Avocado

311. ThatDudeinBlue

312. Superb Stella

313. Osh and Akela

314. Katrin Berndt

315. Stef Sanjati

316. Relaxing White Noise

317. Josh Tryhane

318. Lalaloves

319. Fairy Char ASMR

320. F0XY

321. JairWoo

322. Lucy Elizabeth

323. Willow Faith

324. DiamondCandyTV

325. Karuna Satori ASMR

326. Alba Nelson

327. Courtney Blue

328. Snowy Lowther

329. VaneVane (this one is for the spanish website)

330. AmellaNicole

331. Stevie

332. Bess Ophelia

333. Juggling The Jenkins

334. FlawlessKevin

335. ASMR Darling

336. Authentic Mental Health

Let me know if there's anything else that needs to be added here. Posting it the Multimedia forums because: 1. I heard this thread would be better here and 2. I don't have privileges to the Youtube forum anyway.

EDIT: It's been discovered that a lot of non Phillip DeFranco affiliate link directions have been found to contain Phillip DeFranco's 'Rogue Rocket' tag. The rabbit hole goes even deeper.
Rouge Rocket.png

This was captured from Boogie's affiliate link, and the video posted by @Hackallier below shows a lot more YouTubers guilty of this, such as The Gabbie Vlogs. I suspect Memology will be doing a video on it soon, so I'll update the OP when that comes out.

UPDATE: Whew lad. The rabbit hole goes through to China now. Here is some of the information that's been dug up/come to light since the original OP (The Condensed Version):

Archived copy of Linkedin:
"Co Founder

December 2011 – Present 6 years 11 months
Santa Monica, CA
We're an early stage healthcare startup that delivers professional mental health knowledge to a global audience.

High Fidelity Wireframe
We have strong traction
We're scalable
TAM: 450,000,000"

It's suspected Morton is the co-founder of BetterHelp, hence her religious shilling of the service.
Thanks to @Frostitute for this info!

InfluenceLogic workers + connections page.

Acquisition of BetterHelp in 2015 for 4.5 mil:
Teladoc Datamining:
Teladoc Antitrust Lawsuit (a.k.a. Monopoly Hunt on Telemedicine):
Teladoc Investors:
"These guys now called jafco mentioned in the teladoc funding link who also invested in cyber security start-ups with Google and have investment links to naval intelligence and DOD via proofpoint , Fireye another company invested in by this group were hired to investigate the Trump/Russia link."
Google Co-Investment:
Teladoc Funding History:
Privacy Policy:
Thanks to @judgehate and @Boogie1488 for this info!

Phillip DeFraudo is a Naughty Boy
It's no secret that DeFranco's ad agency company Rogue Rocket is linked with BetterHelp. Yet, at no point prior or during his shilling of BetterHelp did he state his material connection to them, which has lead us to believe ShillyD has broken an FTC guideline.

Felix released a video airing out BetterHelp and its sponsors' dirty laundry for all to see. Now is the time to strap in. Thanks, Pewds! <3

And to the newcomers from PewDiePie's channel, welcome to the farms! Make sure you read the rules before posting.
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Rogue Rocket:
Linkedin page:
Other info:

Rogue Rocket was founded on 03/27/2017
She is Executive Producer at Rogue Rocket, also states Rogue Rocket is "Starting a brand new production company and independent news channel with Philip DeFranco, an award winning YouTube personality and entrepreneur.

Production/Development/Partnerships for all Rogue Rocket properties - The Philip DeFranco Show, PhillyD, Etc."

Also Rogue Rocket is the name of a podcast he has which started early last month

Danny Bragonier Co-Founder

Allison Dea
Head of Community and Support

Alain Adler
Head of Engineering

Jeff Williams
Head of Business Development
(linkedin on the betterhelp webpage but no mention of his employment there)

Also just saw this which gave me a laugh
"Autism is a mental illness that often presents in early age and affects communication and social interactions, as well as cognitive ability in some children and adults."


"Autism is not a mental health condition. However, we do know that autistic people are more likely to develop mental health problems. There can be many reasons for this, such as not getting the support you need."
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I'm stuck in this fucking chair
Candid targeted idiotic skeptics, but to exploit people who desperately want help for their failing mental health? That's just fucking disgusting. Especially Boogie, someone who's built part of his audience by talking about his clinical depression and abuse to exploit fans who probably related to him through that. Really just enforces what the thread on him says.

Broke down the shills in groups of the different influencer marketing sites that have been used.
Also worth noting is also betterhelp website
24 Frames Of Nick

Theo Von

New Rockstars

Steebee Weebee

Self-Helpless Podcast

Philip DeFranco's company

Josh Peck

The Young Turks

Milo Stewart

Kati Morton




David Pakman Show

emilia fart

Double Toasted

Jasmine and Joshua

Bobby Burns


Jason Nash



Claire Michelle



Anna Akana

The Gabbie Vlogs

Rose and Rosie Vlogs

Creative Calm ASMR

Love ASMR by Ana Muñoz

alpha m.

SophieMichelle ASMR

Catplant ASMR



Sarah Hawkinson

Brittany ASMR

Carolyn's RV Life


ASMR DeutscheVita

Leeor Alexandra

Michael Henry



Depression to Expression

Meditations by Rasa

Gus Johnson


How to ADHD

Kayla Ward

Arielle Scarcella


Kandy Kakes

Angel Souls


Victoria Wiggins


Jellybean Green ASMR

The Viet Vegan

Back to Chubby

Kelly Eden

Misha Grimes


Jimmy Hazelwood

Pelagea ASMR

Dr Dray



ASMR Is Awesome


Jackson Miloh

Be Inspired




The Rational National



Syren Cove

Romeo Lacoste

Lauren Elizabeth




Mother's Basement



Allegra Shaw



Rob Dyke

John Flickinger

Taylor Nicole Dean

Anime America

Carly and Erin

Scotty Sire

Tristan Paredes

Hitomi Mochizuki


Heath Hussar

MxR Mods

Charisma on Command

Brianna K


Stephanie Soo

Olivia Kissper ASMR

Sarah Hawkinson



Drew Lynch

Nite Shift ASMR

Howsenselessdeath Howpreciouslife

Peace and Saraity ASMR

Jason Stephenson - Sleep Meditation Music

Andrew Quo


Authentic Mental Health

Kimberly H



Ron Placone

Book Roast

Ladle By Ladle

Marno ASMR

Articulate Design ASMR

ASMR blossom

Carrie Dayton

Amanda the Jedi

Holli + Huckleberry

Sammy-Marie Grimm

Plant Based Bride

Daisy Foxglove

FrivolousFox ASMR

Fatima Francesa

Lily Whispers ASMR

FairyBlossom & Friends ASMR

Good Eating ASMR

More Salt Please

BohemianWhisper ASMR

Kat Napiorkowska

Tingting ASMR

ASMR Barber

Karlie Reneé

Creepy Team

Johnnie June






Rapunzel ASMR

Elizabeth Grace

Rob Dyke (thanks to Gus45 for finding this one)

Jenna Moreci

Carrie Dayton


Depression Talks With Immanuel

Laura Krause

Jenny Ernst

Devin With An Eye

Experiencing Nirvana


Jordan Shrinks


Meet Matt Shep

Ryan Minaj

Macy Eleni

Tristan Paredes


DeMars Coaching

Sarah Acree

Kenny Moffitt


Sara Prostran

Charles Gross


Video Advice


The Fruit Doctor

Anna Clendening



PJ Dreams ASMR

Jenny Mustard

Channon Rose

The Rewired Soul



Stephanie Soo

Arasulè ASMR


Emily Lee

Speed Pharmacology

Darkling ASMR


Most new ones I'm finding fall under NEB or NEB2, can't find any information about those tw0, so unsure what they really are.
Katrin Berndt

BreeAnn Barbie

Alex Meyers

Georgia Marie

Jackson Bird






Tony Bomboni ASMR

Amber Loves Mystery

AlexMax Han

Ferryn & Bella

CAM ASMR & Massage


A Place to Nest

Tyler Rugge

Will Jardell

Karuna Satori ASMR

Alex G

Two Beeps

Kat Wonders

Haru the Shiba Inu

Imari Stuart


Stephen Hansink

Lucy Elizabeth

Brooke Houts

Cristian Oliveras

Kaeden Harveland

GwenGwiz ASMR

Savannah Brymer

The Josh Speaks

Calum McSwiggan


Tony Bomboni ASMR

Elsie Lovelock

Anna Campbell

Alva Velasco

Meghan Tonjes



Tanner Braungardt

Dominick Whelton

Hailey Reese

Living Rosa

Kelly Eden

Rhian HY

Katrin Berndt



Nikocado Avocado


Superb Stella

Osh and Akela

Katrin Berndt

Stef Sanjati

Relaxing White Noise

Josh Tryhane


Fairy Char ASMR



Lucy Elizabeth

Willow Faith


Karuna Satori ASMR

Alba Nelson

Will try to update it when I can as it's still missing a lot of people
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Raging Capybara

True & Honest Fan
I have been watching some of Kati Morton's videos lately, it all seemed normal, but this cunt is a psychopath scammer of depressed people. Holy shit, you really can't trust anyone nowadays.

I never liked psychologists, and every day my disdain for them is slowly turning into hate. Fuck these "professionals".

Great thread, it needs to be viralized.

I'm inclined to believe they priority-list high profile individuals to give them fantastic service and the bad reports from others are in part due to excess number of buyers to therapists. It's easy to lose perspective of the difference between *your* great experience and everyone else's poor one on a digital medium; there used to be a few websites like that built explicitly to fuck with people's heads.


bring on the apocalypse
i expected better from some of these youtubers, but then again why am i surprised.

also it's really funny that people expected to be charged the weekly price for their yearly subscription. the numbers are off but when subscribing yearly you pay for that entire first year right out the gate. that's always how it worked.

Agent Nahman Jayden

Acts like he's from space
Considering the exposure of mental health nowadays and how willing people are to throw money at a screen to be 'fixed' or 'cured', I'm sort of surprised it took this long for something like this to spring up and, dare I say, it's kind of not a bad con.

It's still fucking disgusting, preying on the mentally vulnerable though.

That being said, I remember when I first heard about this it seemed tempting(I mean c'mon, getting 'help' without even having the leave the house? Talk about a low-hanging but effective fruit) but something said "no, just do it in person like the old days" so there's another bullet dodged.

Here's to hoping they get fully exposed as the scam artists they are.

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