The BetterHelp, CreatorHealth, InfluenceLogic Rabbit Hole - Candid 2.0, brought to you by Joel Robbinson

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Recently starting in September, an influx of videos pertaining to a discussion of mental health, depression and anxiety had ignited the new YouTube trend. First emerging after YouTuber Elle Mills' publicised 'YouTube Burnout', a pattern in videos started to emerge in whereby creators suddenly revealed their bouts of 'depression' and mental health problems, meanwhile also promoting the online service BetterHelp as 'another resource to fight depression' and get help, with affiliate links in the descriptions. Notable YouTubers include Boogie2988, Shane Dawson, Phillip DeFranco, and Bobby Burns. This sponsored 'resource' is where the problem lies.

BetterHelp is described as an online therapy service, and advertised as the alternative to face-to-face counselling. BetterHelp is detailed as hosting professional and licensed therapists to tend to your needs, with 24hr availability and access to a host of communication methods, whether it be instant messaging, voice calls, video calls, etc.

BetterHelp is pimped out by a shady non-entity known as CreatorHealth, itself very discretely managed by the owner of InfluenceLogic, a marketing company specifically setup for getting YT content creators to shill. There is a post explaining their broader network here. InfluenceLogic is an affiliate marketer and BetterHelp uses affiliate marketing, so their relation seems incidental. Here's an explanation of how to deduced who recruited the YTer, but a comprehensive list of YTers and who their top-level affiliate is can be found here.

We've made a convenient image summarizing what's wrong with BetterHelp.

Thanks to the help of Memology101's videos and some farmers, BetterHelp is being revealed to be a massive scam that preys on the mentally ill and impressionable fans of content creators. I will try to compile all findings and lists of concerns in this post.

The Pricing

Currently, YouTubers are shilling this as the 'cheaper alternative' to professional counselling, yet scammed customers have come forth in claiming that's not exactly true.

BetterHelp's weekly rates range from $35-$80USD per week. Yet users of the service have complain that they have been randomly charged for two months without refund nor explanation. Some without ever even pairing up with a therapist.
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"Licensed Therapists"

The main attraction to BetterHelp's service is derived from its promotion of 'professional and licensed therapists'. However, looking into the terms and conditions of the website shows that not only do BetterHelp hold no liability for the services provided, stating that all responsibility lies within the customer and their counsellor, but they do not assure the quality, skills, certification or even employment of said therapists.
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Furthermore, according to their website, BetterHelp is HIPAA (the U.S's Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) certified, yet as pointed out in Memology101's video, their terms and conditions contradict this as they claim no accountability if something were to happen.

Unprofessionalism and Negative Experiences

In light of this knowledge, it's easy to make the connection as to why a large sum of people have a negative experience with BetterHelp. Customers detail the unprofessionalism of therapists they were match up with, and in some cases even rudeness and disrespect. Many users have experienced being outright turned away, due to being in a 'crisis' situation or not suited for BetterHelp's services. This has lead many to believe the company preys on the 'not actually depressed' to better extort them without risk of dealing with a 'real' mentally ill case.
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YouTuber Deschroma also made a video detailing her negative experience with BetterHelp.

Shane Dawson's Ploy

I won't go into much detail here as Memology's 5th episode covers it well, but it has been suspected that Shane Dawson's new documentary series on the Paul brothers is really just a marketing gimmick for shilling BetterHelp, as he 'dissects' the brothers' 'sociopathic' tendencies with therapist Kati Morton, who has appeared in a number of videos promoting BetterHelp across YouTube.

Extra Information

I've hopefully roughly covered all the main aspects of criticism in regards to BetterHelp, so now I'll just list some further info and the Memology videos. Thanks to @vhstape for gathering a lot of this data!


Note: This has not been verified by some of the more experienced R&D users on the site. Take everything with a grain of salt, but for expediency's sake we have moved it out to the open.

Some basic info on the shill "therapist"
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzBYOHyEEzlkRdDOSobbpvw
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/katimorton
Mail: PO Box #665 1223 Wilshire Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90403
Business email: linnea@toneymedia.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatiMorton
Website: https://www.katimorton.com/
Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/katimorton1/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katimorton1/?hl=en
Online shop: https://store.dftba.com/collections/kati-morton
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kati-morton-lmft-04801b7
Tumblr: https://katimorton.tumblr.com/
Amazon store page: https://www.amazon.com/Kati-Morton/e/B07D8NHD87

Very little info I could find on Happyable, Inc. which she is co-founder of

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_de/6002711

BetterHelp was acquired by Teladoc in 2015
https://www.crunchbase.com/acquisition/teladoc-acquires-betterhelp--4d8d5d6c
https://www.fastcompany.com/4042379...romise-but-raises-plenty-of-ethical-questions

Teladoc seems to be doing very well and seeing a lot of growth currently
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TDOC?p=TDOC
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/tdoc/financials


"BetterHelp, the leading e-counseling service worldwide, today announced FaithfulCounseling.com, a service offering online counseling for Christians. Every counselor on the platform is a practicing Christian who seeks to integrate appropriate faith-based guidance with their clinical practice."
https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...rapy-Platform-Launches-FaithfulCounseling.com

Founder of betterhelp is a man called Alon Matas
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alonmatas?lang=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alonmatas
linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alonmatas

from his linkedin
"IDF - Israel Defence Forces
6 years
Interview with him: https://mixergy.com/interviews/betterhelp-with-alon-matas/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...an-interview-with_us_5a453dbbe4b06cd2bd03deae

Worth noting he has no qualification relating to any medical field going off the public information.

Edit, found other stuff:
https://qz.com/866949/at-online-therapy-apps-employees-may-be-reading-your-sessions/
https://www.amsa.org/members/benefits/betterhelp/
https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/sunnyvale...ral-service/betterhelp-1216-262454/complaints
seems they are not only using youtube to shill
http://drdrew.com/2017/mark-geragos-haesue-jo-episode-291/
http://mentalpod.com/archives/4894
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Facebook-suggesting-me-to-like-page-BetterHelp
https://theoutline.com/post/3376/why-is-instagram-so-worried-about-my-mental-health?zd=1&zi=ri3gdwpb

Also found Alon Matas's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/alonmatas
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335. ASMR Darling https://archive.li/dBr3i

336. Authentic Mental Health https://archive.li/Msuia

Let me know if there's anything else that needs to be added here. Posting it the Multimedia forums because: 1. I heard this thread would be better here and 2. I don't have privileges to the Youtube forum anyway.

EDIT: It's been discovered that a lot of non Phillip DeFranco affiliate link directions have been found to contain Phillip DeFranco's 'Rogue Rocket' tag. The rabbit hole goes even deeper.
Rouge Rocket.png

This was captured from Boogie's affiliate link, and the video posted by @Hackallier below shows a lot more YouTubers guilty of this, such as The Gabbie Vlogs. I suspect Memology will be doing a video on it soon, so I'll update the OP when that comes out.

UPDATE: Whew lad. The rabbit hole goes through to China now. Here is some of the information that's been dug up/come to light since the original OP (The Condensed Version):

Archived copy of Linkedin: https://web.archive.org/web/20181002174240/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kati-morton-lmft-04801b7
"Co Founder
Undisclosed

December 2011 – Present 6 years 11 months
Santa Monica, CA
We're an early stage healthcare startup that delivers professional mental health knowledge to a global audience.

High Fidelity Wireframe
MVP
We have strong traction
We're scalable
TAM: 450,000,000"


It's suspected Morton is the co-founder of BetterHelp, hence her religious shilling of the service.
Thanks to @Frostitute for this info!

InfluenceLogic workers + connections page.

Acquisition of BetterHelp in 2015 for 4.5 mil: https://web.archive.org/web/20181003071124/
Teladoc Datamining: http://www.telemedmag.com/article/teladoc-mines-mountains-data-strategic-insights/
https://archive.fo/RmWV8
Teladoc Antitrust Lawsuit (a.k.a. Monopoly Hunt on Telemedicine): https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...ladoc-moves-block-Medical-Board-rule-restrict
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20161018/NEWS/161019900
Teladoc Investors: https://www.teladoc.com/news/2014/0...owth-and-solidify-market-leadership-position/
"These guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon_Ventures now called jafco mentioned in the teladoc funding link who also invested in cyber security start-ups with Google and have investment links to naval intelligence and DOD via proofpoint , Fireye another company invested in by this group were hired to investigate the Trump/Russia link."
Google Co-Investment: https://www.ft.com/content/32e52364-9987-11e3-b3a2-00144feab7de#axzz3UUUYcu2w
Teladoc Funding History: https://www.owler.com/company/teladoc#fundinghistory
Privacy Policy: https://www.teladoc.com/notice-of-privacy-practices/
Thanks to @judgehate and @Boogie1488 for this info!

Phillip DeFraudo is a Naughty Boy
It's no secret that DeFranco's ad agency company Rogue Rocket is linked with BetterHelp. Yet, at no point prior or during his shilling of BetterHelp did he state his material connection to them, which has lead us to believe ShillyD has broken an FTC guideline.

PewDiePie:
Felix released a video airing out BetterHelp and its sponsors' dirty laundry for all to see. Now is the time to strap in. Thanks, Pewds! <3

And to the newcomers from PewDiePie's channel, welcome to the farms! Make sure you read the rules before posting.
 
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vhstape

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Rogue Rocket:
Linkedin page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rogue-rocket
Twitter: https://twitter.com/theroguerocket?lang=en
Website: https://www.roguerocket.com/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpLB7kBu9O5dbBKhaIOmqcQ/featured
Other info:
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/rogue-rocket
https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/CBS/SearchResults?SearchType=CORP&SearchCriteria=+Rogue+Rocket&SearchSubType=Keyword

Rogue Rocket was founded on 03/27/2017

https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=04006331-23539720
https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=04006331-22284841
https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=04006331-22097112


https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandanmorones
She is Executive Producer at Rogue Rocket, also states Rogue Rocket is "Starting a brand new production company and independent news channel with Philip DeFranco, an award winning YouTube personality and entrepreneur.

Production/Development/Partnerships for all Rogue Rocket properties - The Philip DeFranco Show, PhillyD, Etc."


Also Rogue Rocket is the name of a podcast he has which started early last month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxtgZ5EunIc&list=PLT6-2Ll8kfxMqR0le3bytZVwrJHclyuO8

Danny Bragonier Co-Founder
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannybragonier

Allison Dea
Head of Community and Support
https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-dea


Alain Adler
Head of Engineering
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aladler/



Jeff Williams
Head of Business Development
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffwilliams/
(linkedin on the betterhelp webpage but no mention of his employment there)

Also just saw this which gave me a laugh https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/autism/which-autism-medication-is-right-for-my-child/
"Autism is a mental illness that often presents in early age and affects communication and social interactions, as well as cognitive ability in some children and adults."

while https://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/media-centre/news/2016-07-24-autism-and-mental-health.aspx

"Autism is not a mental health condition. However, we do know that autistic people are more likely to develop mental health problems. There can be many reasons for this, such as not getting the support you need."
 
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I'm stuck in this fucking chair
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Candid targeted idiotic skeptics, but to exploit people who desperately want help for their failing mental health? That's just fucking disgusting. Especially Boogie, someone who's built part of his audience by talking about his clinical depression and abuse to exploit fans who probably related to him through that. Really just enforces what the thread on him says.
 

vhstape

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Broke down the shills in groups of the different influencer marketing sites that have been used.
Also worth noting http://tryonlinetherapy.com/ is also betterhelp website

https://algebramedia.com/
24 Frames Of Nick https://archive.li/eyAEo

Theo Von https://archive.li/8uaOU

New Rockstars https://archive.li/jTU0l

Steebee Weebee https://archive.li/376yA

Self-Helpless Podcast https://archive.li/LSl5w

Philip DeFranco's company

https://ben.productplacement.com/

https://www.influencelogic.com/
Andywarski https://archive.li/lzqI1

Josh Peck https://archive.li/wUAWQ

The Young Turks https://archive.li/QIrku

Milo Stewart https://archive.li/oVdjZ

Kati Morton https://archive.li/o0rFn

lacigreen https://archive.li/XaNp9

JaclynGlenn https://archive.li/UHqbi

H3H3 https://archive.li/fNaOx

David Pakman Show https://archive.li/y4uxZ

emilia fart https://archive.li/g6L3z

Double Toasted https://archive.li/M3mSI

Jasmine and Joshua https://archive.li/IxJ3w

Bobby Burns https://archive.li/V5ADb

Domics https://archive.li/ksPmM

Jason Nash https://archive.li/5CL6p

Gibi ASMR https://archive.li/R8INk

blndsundoll4mj https://archive.li/BTlud

Claire Michelle https://archive.li/zME1e

BigDawsTv https://archive.li/e3UAZ

ASMRrequests https://archive.li/HraOX

Anna Akana https://archive.li/2gBPU

The Gabbie Vlogs https://archive.li/DndmT

Rose and Rosie Vlogs https://archive.li/U1UIK

Creative Calm ASMR https://archive.li/22kZa

Love ASMR by Ana Muñoz https://archive.li/jIVag

alpha m. https://archive.li/Ez9n8

SophieMichelle ASMR https://archive.li/pVkyp

Catplant ASMR https://archive.li/5vjcw

Laineybot https://archive.li/5Wv4v

Thedailysign https://archive.li/0qtWG

Sarah Hawkinson https://archive.li/UUrOR

Brittany ASMR https://archive.li/Qq4HJ

Carolyn's RV Life https://archive.li/jwUqr

V-Squared https://archive.li/M0mBi

ASMR DeutscheVita https://archive.li/dpp9U

Leeor Alexandra https://archive.li/AQ5u1

Michael Henry https://archive.li/qch9F

Emmmabooks https://archive.li/ozYdb

Stolentoilet https://archive.li/mbU7r

Depression to Expression https://archive.li/kQw2o

Meditations by Rasa https://archive.li/uet8D

Gus Johnson https://archive.li/imfQ5

Marinashutup https://archive.li/tVK4h

How to ADHD https://archive.li/Wolrm

Kayla Ward https://archive.li/6wetW

Arielle Scarcella https://archive.li/45ebz

MasakoX https://archive.li/wPD5p

Kandy Kakes https://archive.li/AoPZt

Angel Souls https://archive.li/JpqXX

Deni ASMRCZ https://archive.li/kv2uW

Victoria Wiggins https://archive.li/h7Zpc

Memeulous https://archive.li/onDFk

Jellybean Green ASMR https://archive.li/xLUzB

The Viet Vegan https://archive.li/VK7Py

Back to Chubby https://archive.li/gCl3q

Kelly Eden https://archive.li/GZCo7

Misha Grimes https://archive.li/3ceH2

Mekkk https://archive.li/uB94q

Jimmy Hazelwood https://archive.li/IaLdr

Pelagea ASMR https://archive.li/Hq7Eo

Dr Dray https://archive.li/sX2U1

Wisecrack https://archive.li/AWLbZ

LuckyHell https://archive.li/iFUBI

ASMR Is Awesome https://archive.li/jyklG

EmuEmi https://archive.li/pvzlu

Jackson Miloh https://archive.li/V8NLl

Be Inspired https://archive.li/WwvqX

LoseitlikeLauren https://archive.li/qPbXr

Stillsoundlyawake https://archive.li/KDLaC

AMY LEE https://archive.li/ocFy4

The Rational National https://archive.li/C4Tj2

adam22 https://archive.li/Ok64h

Atozy https://archive.li/NyGPj

Syren Cove https://archive.li/t3U3S

Romeo Lacoste https://archive.li/eo2tn

Lauren Elizabeth https://archive.li/2ClbG

Thoughty2 https://archive.li/BDCHh

DavidSoComedy https://archive.li/4vEtf

Roly https://archive.li/5GNhz

Mother's Basement https://archive.li/BIzyI

ScreenPrism https://archive.li/NVMCG

PRINCESSJOULES https://archive.li/GLDls

Allegra Shaw https://archive.li/PQRnl

Teachingmensfashion https://archive.li/NT09A

batinthesun https://archive.li/W9SNI

Rob Dyke https://archive.li/ro37P

John Flickinger https://archive.li/OlCm5

Taylor Nicole Dean https://archive.li/bATGH

Anime America https://archive.li/fQuAU

Carly and Erin https://archive.li/zb5s0

Scotty Sire https://archive.li/60sHb

Tristan Paredes https://archive.li/lBIQT

Hitomi Mochizuki https://archive.li/UC0mu

sexplanations https://archive.li/u79KL

Heath Hussar https://archive.li/GiHN2

MxR Mods https://archive.li/IPeHp

Charisma on Command https://archive.li/uFbpG

Brianna K https://archive.li/Mkejo

MissMangoButt https://archive.li/BqDRn

Stephanie Soo https://archive.li/qPMtI

Olivia Kissper ASMR https://archive.li/IgiA9

Sarah Hawkinson https://archive.li/LCcxg

MissFenderr https://archive.li/W5tET

LatreceASMR https://archive.li/ymksB

Drew Lynch https://archive.li/t1q86

Nite Shift ASMR https://archive.li/0XoDj

Howsenselessdeath Howpreciouslife https://archive.li/APHHs

Peace and Saraity ASMR https://archive.li/Y7D1L

Jason Stephenson - Sleep Meditation Music https://archive.li/8D4VD

Andrew Quo https://archive.li/nXvyA

WelshDrive https://archive.li/GJpK4

Authentic Mental Health https://archive.li/gNmhm

Kimberly H https://archive.li/NJjLz

Royko64 https://archive.li/ihd92

ClickForTaz https://archive.li/vlDdu

Ron Placone https://archive.li/v5y9P

Book Roast https://archive.li/EqRfn

Ladle By Ladle https://archive.li/3LsAn

Marno ASMR https://archive.li/AHp4A

Articulate Design ASMR https://archive.li/TL3lq

ASMR blossom https://archive.li/z5XVS

Carrie Dayton https://archive.li/TUw83

Amanda the Jedi https://archive.li/je8t3

Holli + Huckleberry https://archive.li/sC5Ai

Sammy-Marie Grimm https://archive.li/5dyZX

Plant Based Bride https://archive.li/Ipuyk

Daisy Foxglove https://archive.li/LeKv3

FrivolousFox ASMR https://archive.li/clWN5

Fatima Francesa https://archive.li/zBd7H

Lily Whispers ASMR https://archive.li/K4vfk

FairyBlossom & Friends ASMR https://archive.li/9uVng

Good Eating ASMR https://archive.li/Uic4Q

More Salt Please https://archive.li/F79M7

BohemianWhisper ASMR https://archive.li/KJ0HS

Kat Napiorkowska https://archive.li/RJUIn

Tingting ASMR https://archive.li/g4v3n

ASMR Barber https://archive.li/uC7co

Karlie Reneé https://archive.li/8RHLs

Creepy Team https://archive.li/VKjuq

Johnnie June https://archive.li/10hyA

NiwaLeaf https://archive.li/Yzzr9

CardlinAudio https://archive.li/Zjvou

Whitewinterwhispers https://archive.li/9J7vq

ASMR WORLD https://archive.li/JvkXm

2Spooky https://archive.li/35GNr

Rapunzel ASMR https://archive.li/92VNf

Elizabeth Grace https://archive.li/x183c

Rob Dyke https://archive.li/zE2PY#selection-1251.0-1254.0 (thanks to Gus45 for finding this one)

Jenna Moreci https://archive.li/GIWhO

Carrie Dayton https://archive.li/zk2xu

JuiceHead https://archive.li/X4bJM

Depression Talks With Immanuel https://archive.li/vJ5ak

Laura Krause https://archive.li/LEXVZ

Jenny Ernst https://archive.li/FQcJO

Devin With An Eye https://archive.li/XgIRf

Experiencing Nirvana https://archive.li/53dOM

heyitsfeiii https://archive.li/u455q

Jordan Shrinks https://archive.li/amlFb

WoodyWoodrow https://archive.li/fgVEi

Meet Matt Shep https://archive.li/0N9id

Ryan Minaj https://archive.li/mpjsq

Macy Eleni https://archive.li/WtfYI

Tristan Paredes https://archive.li/lBIQT

Kbaby https://archive.li/h9m0m

DeMars Coaching https://archive.li/nWmJr

Sarah Acree https://archive.li/ymYQn

Kenny Moffitt https://archive.li/LVzZo

MakeupMesha https://archive.li/jBtpW

Sara Prostran https://archive.li/k5liC

Charles Gross https://archive.li/93g2Y

FLEMLO RAPS MUSIC & MENTALITY https://archive.li/gje68

Video Advice https://archive.li/5haRu

MaxFloz https://archive.li/0NNKm

The Fruit Doctor https://archive.li/QvFq3

Anna Clendening https://archive.li/3LxvI

stolentoilet https://archive.li/jpsF7

gwengwizetc https://archive.li/295m0

PJ Dreams ASMR https://archive.li/JMI1O

Jenny Mustard https://archive.li/mD92J

Channon Rose https://archive.li/5NkAU

The Rewired Soul https://archive.li/g6mrO

FlexitarianFood&Fitness https://archive.li/MwGAf

NiwaLeaf https://archive.li/B4i0d

Stephanie Soo https://archive.li/HyzEW

Arasulè ASMR https://archive.li/RUJrx

ashnichrist https://archive.li/Qk4Ct

Emily Lee https://archive.li/KdAlW#selection-1239.1-1251.9

Speed Pharmacology https://archive.li/57tAv

Darkling ASMR https://archive.li/nfgDA

LizziesAnswers https://archive.li/I89R9

https://fullscreenmedia.co/

https://bentpixels.com/
YourMomsHousePodcast https://archive.li/dpUoS

http://www.prettygooddigital.com/
SteveTerreberry https://archive.li/NAzfH


http://www.disruptivagency.com/




Most new ones I'm finding fall under NEB or NEB2, can't find any information about those tw0, so unsure what they really are.
Katrin Berndt https://archive.li/uT4vw

BreeAnn Barbie https://archive.li/FkGCs

Alex Meyers https://archive.li/iwCaP

Georgia Marie https://archive.li/GOyu8

Jackson Bird https://archive.li/uWzMg

ChandlerNWilson https://archive.li/FarlJ

JustDestiny https://archive.li/dAgIC

EnvyMaliceMikki https://archive.li/KwecP

CircleToonsHD https://archive.li/Y7umx

LAHWF https://archive.li/lj6Fs

Tony Bomboni ASMR https://archive.li/99gxY

Amber Loves Mystery https://archive.li/IROZd

AlexMax Han https://archive.li/4LIdM#selection-1251.0-1251.11

Ferryn & Bella https://archive.li/2nE72

CAM ASMR & Massage https://archive.li/cOheY

NayaReadsandSmiles https://archive.li/LPyKz

A Place to Nest https://archive.li/MzuGU

Tyler Rugge https://archive.li/jDVYK

Will Jardell https://archive.li/6wxHI

Karuna Satori ASMR https://archive.li/JItf5

Alex G https://archive.li/PYrkf

Two Beeps https://archive.li/Zmoqu

Kat Wonders https://archive.li/rwfJd

Haru the Shiba Inu https://archive.li/m2SB5

Imari Stuart https://archive.li/6NviY

TheMonasteroTwins https://archive.li/aFqho

Stephen Hansink https://archive.li/l8Ho1

Lucy Elizabeth https://archive.li/yEDxl

Brooke Houts https://archive.li/VTUQX

Cristian Oliveras https://archive.li/6kwXT

Kaeden Harveland https://archive.li/UfNHy

GwenGwiz ASMR https://archive.li/em5Y5

Savannah Brymer https://archive.li/kC33f

The Josh Speaks https://archive.li/qS17p

Calum McSwiggan https://archive.li/L2ZpD

SAVANNAH ROSE https://archive.li/4OTB7

Tony Bomboni ASMR https://archive.li/fGIA2

Elsie Lovelock https://archive.li/eMxnY

Anna Campbell https://archive.li/9lr7A

Alva Velasco https://archive.li/6c7xE

Meghan Tonjes https://archive.li/nQ4j9

LAHWF https://archive.li/lj6Fs

T1J https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNArR6-bTk0

Tanner Braungardt https://archive.li/6pQ60

Dominick Whelton https://archive.li/QUpKe

Hailey Reese https://archive.li/VNegf

Living Rosa https://archive.li/8jaoz

Kelly Eden https://archive.li/ca5mZ

Rhian HY https://archive.li/kwnsx

Katrin Berndt https://archive.li/miYpz

Shelbizleee https://archive.li/rdyoG

Node https://archive.li/X9vST

Nikocado Avocado https://archive.li/yXolw

ThatDudeinBlue https://archive.li/HiGq4

Superb Stella https://archive.li/MvZux

Osh and Akela https://archive.li/8IBNs

Katrin Berndt https://archive.li/gLaOE

Stef Sanjati https://archive.li/DHI3U

Relaxing White Noise https://archive.li/mpGJ6

Josh Tryhane https://archive.li/9iis4

Lalaloves https://archive.li/C6gVc

Fairy Char ASMR https://archive.li/8ZzoI

F0XY https://archive.li/5yRih

JairWoo https://archive.li/DxtNb

Lucy Elizabeth https://archive.li/JuIMZ

Willow Faith https://archive.li/wnkvX

DiamondCandyTV https://archive.li/XNfSl

Karuna Satori ASMR https://archive.li/ReyJP

Alba Nelson https://archive.li/T3OHy

Will try to update it when I can as it's still missing a lot of people
 
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Raging Capybara

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I have been watching some of Kati Morton's videos lately, it all seemed normal, but this cunt is a psychopath scammer of depressed people. Holy shit, you really can't trust anyone nowadays.

I never liked psychologists, and every day my disdain for them is slowly turning into hate. Fuck these "professionals".

Great thread, it needs to be viralized.
 

Autopsy

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I'm inclined to believe they priority-list high profile individuals to give them fantastic service and the bad reports from others are in part due to excess number of buyers to therapists. It's easy to lose perspective of the difference between *your* great experience and everyone else's poor one on a digital medium; there used to be a few websites like that built explicitly to fuck with people's heads.
 

neyvaraez

bring on the apocalypse
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i expected better from some of these youtubers, but then again why am i surprised.

also it's really funny that people expected to be charged the weekly price for their yearly subscription. the numbers are off but when subscribing yearly you pay for that entire first year right out the gate. that's always how it worked.
 

Agent Nahman Jayden

Acts like he's from space
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Considering the exposure of mental health nowadays and how willing people are to throw money at a screen to be 'fixed' or 'cured', I'm sort of surprised it took this long for something like this to spring up and, dare I say, it's kind of not a bad con.

It's still fucking disgusting, preying on the mentally vulnerable though.

That being said, I remember when I first heard about this it seemed tempting(I mean c'mon, getting 'help' without even having the leave the house? Talk about a low-hanging but effective fruit) but something said "no, just do it in person like the old days" so there's another bullet dodged.

Here's to hoping they get fully exposed as the scam artists they are.
 

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