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Just to clear up the Dreamcast case thing. I'm guessing PAL cases were different, because in the UK we got these strange double sided cases for every game.Might want to correct that remark about Dreamcast cases. I own a small Dreamcast collection and from what I can tell they're identical to regular CD jewel cases.
The problem with them is was barely anywhere to get a grip on the front side of the case, and there was a weak point next to the hinge that would snap at the slightest bit of force, and I do mean slight. Opening them as you would a normal jewel case would likely break it, like this.
And because the plastic there is so thin, good luck trying to glue it back on.
The back half can contain a disc, and is more sturdy, but contains the manual and is harder to open.
Fakes are interesting to me. YouTuber 8-bit guy got shit from retro collectors when he printed fresh labels for a machine he was restoring. He started adding subtle watermarks after that. Though if it's impossible to tell if it's a fake, does it really matter? Obviously people shouldn't be conned, but why put a high price on the genuine version if everything about it is indistinguishable from the original? It's not like a painting, these things were mass produced in factories.That and fakes are flooding the market and everywhere. However I do like newly released games though and might keep me interested in my Genesis collection.
One thing related to fakes I'm interested in is high quality reproductions, or even original productions. Especially for games that never had boxes or had bad boxes or bad box art.
This whole video is worth a watch, but timestamp for where he shows off his Christmas Nights reproduction box, and at 8:30 he shows his English Policenauts cover.
I think it depends on the game.Did the digital market really change things so much as to destroy the "retro collectible" market?
Generally speaking, digital re-releases don't seem to effect the retro collectors all that much. Some want original hardware. At one time PS2 and Gamecube emulation wasn't fast or accurate enough to play most stuff. That's changed, but I don't know about other 3D consoles. I think there's a nostalgia element to it as well.
I vaguely remember one game (I forgot which, one of those high price classics like Earthbound, Misadventures of Tron Bonne, or Panzer Dragoon) causing frustration in the collectors market when it got a digital re-release after years of not having one. I don't know if the price crashed, but they weren't happy.
Some collectors seem to enjoy tracking these games down and thrifting more than the game itself.what is the real fight? Is it the process of going out of your home, traveling and finding a seller? Or is it as simple as clicking "buy now" and getting what you desire without haggling or any skin in the game, so to speak?
Pickings are slim in the UK compared to the US, and when I do find a game I want the chances are it'll be in horrible condition. As someone who just wants the game to play it, I have no objection to buying online.
Retro collectors* tend to be mid-late thirties and older. So chances are they have a good job, savings, and a mid life crisis. Weebs* tend to have tech jobs that pay high, and are single so they have no problem throwing down money on expensive figurines or rare gaming junk.These days the market is insanely expensive and I seriously wonder where people get all the money for this stuff. I'm also wondering if this is going to end up being some kind of passing fad, that maybe once my generation ages out of having disposable income the luster of retro games will wear off from the zoomers and whatever generation will come after them.
*Not counting NEETs or min wage workers of course.
Though I have no idea who's buying weeb games from scalpers. Speculators maybe?
As for it being a passing fad. I've thought about that. NES games only have value now because gen-x who grew up with fond memories playing Mario 3 and Duck Hunt. Maybe a rare few classics will stand the test of time, but I doubt post-zoomers are going to care about owning them on original hardware, assuming that there's any hardware that lasts that long outside of museums.
There's a show called Bangers and Cash. It's about an old car auction house. Old car prices are going through the roof as cars slowly rust, and modern regulations mean they can't make replacements. Almost all the buyers are either dealers, or are old guys who've decided to enjoy their retirement by buying an old car from their youth or wanted but could never afford. Sometimes you get young people interested in quirky cars, but they never seem to put the money down. Sellers tend to be old owners who died, or are retired and are selling vehicles they can't or don't use.
I imagine the future of the collectors market being like that. Retirees who can't really go anywhere any more. They have a pension and a growing realisation they're in the twilight of their life, so they might as well enjoy it.