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  • Take this shit to the Supreme Court! They'll sort it out!

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RichardMongler

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After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah

The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/more-than-500-attacks-on-muslims-in-america-this-year
Juvaria Khan, a senior staff attorney with Muslim Advocates who helped Obeidallah in his case, said the court’s decision sent a strong message about the consequences of hate speech.

“We live in a climate where people feel emboldened to convey their bigoted views against marginalized communities including American Muslims,” Khan said. “This case is a very significant victory. We’re very proud of our client Dean for standing up and showing that violence and bigotry will not be tolerated.”

Obeidallah said he hopes the win can be a “roadmap” for people from other marginalized groups who seek legal action against white supremacists.

“The idea is about sending a message: If you attack these groups you despise, in my case Muslims, or Jews, or the LGBT community, or African-Americans, we are not going to cower,” he said.

“We’re going to hold you accountable by going to the federal courts and suing you. And we’re going to win that judgment against you.”
 

tuscangarder

☭☭☭Redgang☭☭☭ChudKIller on Suicide Watch
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Are you serious?

Are you real?

Do you even understand what forum you are in right now?

Words only have as much affect on one's mental and physical well being as one allows them to. You can ignore words, reply back to words, scream angrily at words, etcetera. The context and intent is what shows the appropriate response to any set of words.
That is not really true. You can definetly make someone more likely to commit =suicide with words. To pretend words don't affect people negatively is just silly. Not everyone has the mentality to brush words off.

If you encourage someone to actively commit suicide it is possible to be convicted of manslaughter.

 
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TowinKarz

And the deer and the antelope.....
True & Honest Fan
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It's not the words, it's who says them, how they're said, and in what context.

My mom saying "you disappoint me" carries far more weight than someone I don't know going "Fags should suck the gas hard and deep"

Where PCism/SJWism goes wrong is trying to outlaw the speaking of the "bad" words when the real issue is they should be debating the faulty ideas behind them and showing them as without merit.

ANd ultimately, "words are violence" has a tiny kernel of truth to it, but the causality between word and action is so unpredictable it's madness to try and "ban the hate speech" exercise the left has been hungup on for the last 20 years.

It's no guarantee even the most vile novel will motivate someone to do something depraved, nor an innocent off-hand comment said in obvious jest won't cause a person to break down and hang themselves.

You just cannot form any meaningful or fair law when you get down to the level of trying to create a list of what can and cannot be said, even the most noble and fairest attempt, will fail.
 

NeoGAF Lurker

An Niggo
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Anglin complained a while back that his regular contributors stopped contributing. So it’s pretty much a one man operation at this point.

Then you have this: https://dailystormer.name/stormer-bbs-users-found-to-be-pathetically-lazy-stupid/

I'm guessing Anglin is tired of TDS but like Chris Cantwell, he is considered beyond hope or a redemption arc so he’s fucked and is stuck working on TDS until he eats lead.
 

Pointless Pedant

Waiting in queue for 2b2t
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Anglin complained a while back that his regular contributors stopped contributing. So it’s pretty much a one man operation at this point.

Then you have this: https://dailystormer.name/stormer-bbs-users-found-to-be-pathetically-lazy-stupid/

I'm guessing Anglin is tired of TDS but like Chris Cantwell, he is considered beyond hope or a redemption arc so he’s fucked and is stuck working on TDS until he eats lead.
Nazi website operator isn't the most employable work experience out there.
 

Mediocre

Insufferable
kiwifarms.net
Looks like Bitmitigate has stopped providing the Daily Stormer with services due to the site being constantly attacked and Anglin not being able to come up with the funds to upgrade their package, this doesn't look good for Kiwi Farms considering it's also constantly attacked so if Null loses Cloudflare then I doubt Bitmitigate would hold up for long unless Null has lots of shekels to offer them...
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EasyPeasy

English not British
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Did that Jew weev run off with all the crypto shekels?

SAVE THE STORMER: Please Send Money to Keep This Site Online!
Hello friend,
If you are like 99.999% of the regular readers of this site, you have never provided any financial support for our endeavors here at the Daily Stormer. This is fair enough, as you are used to not giving sites money, because sites make money through ads, or subscriptions, or promo deals or whatever else.

We do not make money through any of those things. This is not a non-profit, it is a zero-profit. The only way we have money for operating costs is from people who send us donation money. People send us donation money not as a donation to us as people, but because we are the biggest and most important website on the internet talking about the Jews and the problems that the Jews bring with them, and people want others to find out about that. We are very good at telling others about that.
Because we are so good at telling others about that, we are constantly under a level of attack that no other site suffers from. We are shut down, we are sued, we are threatened, we have become the most censored publication in all of human history.

So it has become very expensive to remain online, and it has become increasingly problematic that such a tiny fraction of our readership bothers to support us.
We have been shut out of all financial services, including PayPal, credit card processing and all other forms of banking. And of course, we cannot run advertisements or sell any products. As such, the only way to contribute to the site is through crypto currency.
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There are three very easy ways you can get crypto currency and get it to us.
But before you do this, you need to download an app on your phone called Mycelium. This is a bitcoin wallet, where you will put your bitcoin before you send it to the Daily Stormer.
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There are many different bitcoin exchanges, but by far the easiest is the CashApp, which you can download on your phone and use to quickly buy bitcoin with a credit or debt card. Also, if you enter the payment code “JOEROGAN,” they will give you $10 free that you can send to us. This is by far the easiest way to do this.

You can also buy bitcoin at Gemini, though it is more complicated. The same goes for Coinbase. Both of these allow you to link your bank account, and purchase that way, if that is something people want to do.
Whatever you do, make certain not to send directly from these services to our bitcoin address. Send it first to your own Mycelium wallet.
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And That is All
It is that simple, you have all of those options, you do not have any excuse.
Please do this now and do it quickly.

We have to figure out a way to get online that costs less than the $11,000 a month we’re supposed to be paying right now – for the one missing service!
You don’t have to send a lot of money, people. There are millions of you. If you each simply commit to sending $5, $10 or $20 a month, we will be swimming in cash, we will have more and better articles, I will be able to do livestreams, and most importantly WE WILL NEVER HAVE THIS DOWNTIME!
Sincerely,
Andrew Anglin
Publisher, Daily Stormer
 

TaimuRadiu

Kaiserin
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Fun fact: when bitcoin was really peaking in late 2017, Anglin was confirmed to be a multimillionaire since his wallet information was publicly available. I know it’s gone down a bit since but he still likely has hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Ladyboys, VSOP, and truvada aren't free
 

EasyPeasy

English not British
True & Honest Fan
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DS is back on clearnet.

Wonder if Anglin stumped up the $11k Bitmitigate demanded?
 

Mediocre

Insufferable
kiwifarms.net
Not for me it isn't unless the .name tld changed. IP address not found.
Working from my end although only the .com domain works, the .name gives me a Bitmitigate server offline message. Curious to know how Anglin got the site back online...
 

AnOminous

Really?
True & Honest Fan
Retired Staff
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Working from my end although only the .com domain works, the .name gives me a Bitmitigate server offline message. Curious to know how Anglin got the site back online...
The .name is working through tor but not VPN. I'd guess DNS isn't fully propagated.

Also Hunter Wallace is claiming they're lying about why it went down, based on. . .stuff, I guess.

 

EasyPeasy

English not British
True & Honest Fan
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The .name is working through tor but not VPN. I'd guess DNS isn't fully propagated.

Also Hunter Wallace is claiming they're lying about why it went down, based on. . .stuff, I guess.

That cunt has been pumping the anit-DS articles out for the last week or so. He has even got Stormfront in a tizzy about it.
 
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