The Dark Tower 2017 - The long-awaited adaptation

Liquid Kent

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I didn't see any proper thread for Dark Tower, so apologies if I'm a sperg and glossed over more well-written threads beforehand.

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For those unfamiliar, The Dark Tower is Stephen King's magnum opus, a sprawling, surrealist western high fantasy novel with post-apocalyptic horror throughout.

Yeah, it's a hell of a read and ride.

That said, I've heard a lot of salt about how loose and unfaithful the film is as far as adaptations go, having been "Hollywood-ed" simplified beyond reason with a tinge of SocJus with the casting of Idris Elba as the Gunslinger, who was always a white Clint Eastwood-type.

After watching the film premiere though...

It wasn't bad. I don't understand the outright hate. Critics are slamming the film non-stop, yet the casual moviegoer, girlfriend among them- thoroughly enjoyed the film.

Liberties were taken, but it was done so well that the entire film was just as much a thrill-ride as the books were. Granted, half (hell, 3/4) of the material sometimes felt too weird or awkward, and the film easily keeps things simple and straightforward.

Most damning from the books is that King never planned out properly, writing as he felt like it without a goal or ending. I remember I was upset finally reading the ending, it felt like such a huge cop-out knowing that he never planned anything out for the series and that he essentially wrote himself out of a sticky mess as it wore on and opted for a really cheap end trick.

The film, taking into account what happens at the end of Book VII, is essentially the Coda, the bookend (ha) of the series. It serves as a decent ending to great series, while standing on its own as a solo film.

But enough about what I think. What did you guys think of the Dark Tower 2017 film?
 

The Nothingness

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So in all likelihood, this is a one-and-done film adaptation with no future sequels that show other characters from the book series?
 

Rumpled Foreskin

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i feel like the fact they made this into a sequal to the books was kind of a cop out. They can adhere to whatever they want to in the books, while changing other things at will, all for the sake of this being another trip to the dark tower. After ten(?) or so years of waiting to make this, I have to say that I'm very disappointed with what I'm hearing about this movie.
 

Ruin

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To be fair they had to to take significant liberties with the source material. In the books one of the major characters is a black women with multiple personalities one of which is a horrific racist who hates white people and constantly calls Roland racial slurs, there would be actual riots if they portrayed that. The Demon rape and frequent bloody massacres would push the movie into hard R or even X territory and it's obvious they wanted to make this into a young adult high fantasy thing to maximize audience potential.

So yea this venture was basically doomed from the start.
 
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Dysnomia

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To be fair they had to to take significant liberties with the source material. In the books one of the major characters is a black women with multiple personalities one of which is a horrific racist who hates white people and constantly calls Roland racial slurs, there would be actual riots if they portrayed that. The Demon rape and frequent bloody massacres would push the movie into hard R or even X territory and it's obvious they wanted to make this into a young adult high fantasy thing to maximize audience potential.

So yea this venture was basically doomed from the start.

I had been wondering how the hell they'd handle Odetta. Especially with Idris Elba playing Roland. But as it turns out they didn't have to bother anyway. Maybe it's for the best. The triggering would be unbearable. However, a bunch of people will buy the books now and be disappointed or upset. Oh well. That's what happens when you Hollywoodize something with a much more controversial and REEEEE inducing feel to it.
 

Spellskite

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Oh holy shit they're still really trying that movie/series/movie thing?
https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/08/idris-elba-to-star-in-the-dark-tower-tv-series/

And its by the guy who did season 2 of the Walking Dead. You remember, the one where they goofed around on a farm the whole time?

According to The Hollywood Reporter, former Walking Dead showrunner Glen Mazzara will oversee the development of aDark Tower TV show. The series will be a joint-production between Sony Television and the independent studio MRC. However, as THR notes, the show is in its early stages and no network is attached as yet. It is expected that a first season would be 10-13 episodes long.
 

Bugaboo

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Aren't the dark tower books like at least 3 inches thick and there are several of them?
Wouldn't this work better as a tv series instead of cramming all this shit into one movie?

(Never read the books, I just know that if you clobbered a guy with one you could probably kill him because my father had tons of King's books when I was a kid)
 

Liquid Kent

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Aren't the dark tower books like at least 3 inches thick and there are several of them?
Wouldn't this work better as a tv series instead of cramming all this shit into one movie?

The film is a sequel (of sorts) to the book series while standing on its own as a solo film. It essentially acts as the epilogue for the original book series, while being a jumping-on point for newcomers.

That's what I gather from both interviews with the Director together with what happens in the film...
 

UglyOldJafar

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The film is a sequel (of sorts) to the book series while standing on its own as a solo film. It essentially acts as the epilogue for the original book series, while being a jumping-on point for newcomers.

That's what I gather from both interviews with the Director together with what happens in the film...

The beauty of King's book series ending on what was essentially a time loop
 

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The Coda ending would have been alright if more info had been given regarding the Tower itself in the original book series. Seven books and once I finished them I still didn't know...

- Why the Crimson King thought he'd survive the Tower falling and why he thought he could control Prim
- Arthur Eld's significance in All-World.
- Why Roland thought he could bring back his dead friends and family with the Tower.
-Why the Tower/Gan seemed to be expecting some very specific siguls.
- Who is Jamie De Curry?
 

Liquid Kent

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The Coda ending would have been alright if more info had been given regarding the Tower itself in the original book series. Seven books and once I finished them I still didn't know...

- Why the Crimson King thought he'd survive the Tower falling and why he thought he could control Prim
- Arthur Eld's significance in All-World.
- Why Roland thought he could bring back his dead friends and family with the Tower.
-Why the Tower/Gan seemed to be expecting some very specific siguls.
- Who is Jamie De Curry?

Exactly. I felt the film sidestepped everything for the sake of simplicity, and for once... I wasn't upset about it that 'fans' usually are.
 

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