The Entire Pacific Northwest is On Fire - Burn Baby Burn

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is that the one PPE started with their shitty wiring?
If by "bad wiring" you mean one of PG&E's high voltage towers that fell the fuck down, then yes. The average age of PG&E towers is 63 years old and designed life cycle is 60 years.
So what the chances of another large and wide spread fire happening after this one burns out?
Depends entirely on the weather. Massive fire growth requires 10-15% relative humidity and high winds.

Fire updates. Beachie has good video briefs and shit maps. Riverside is the opposite

Start date: Aug, 16, 2020

Location: Santiam Canyon west of Detroit, OR, Southern Clackamas County
Cause: Unknown

Fire size: 190,138 acres
Air Assets Assigned: 7

Total personnel: 572


Salem, Ore. – The increased acreage in fire size reported today is not due to fire spread over the past 24 hours but because an aerial assessment was completed. This allowed for a more accurate measure and improved mapping of the fire. Firefighters will resume work Tuesday to secure the perimeter of the Beachie Creek Fire. Crews and heavy equipment continue to connect and strengthen existing control line together on the west and northwest portions of the fire. Good progress was made in this area over the last couple days. Firefighters continue to work with landowners on the southeastern perimeter of the fire to build and secure control lines in that area. Firefighters will also continue mopping up and systematically assessing damage to structures inside the fire. Due to these efforts, firefighters have achieved 15% containment.

The Beachie Creek Fire and the Riverside Fire remain about one mile apart. Officials from nearby fires are coordinating strategies to minimize fire growth and stabilize incidents. Extremely dry vegetation and a lack of natural holding features in the Table Rock Wilderness and surrounding areas mean it is still possible the fires could burn together. Based on current weather, it is anticipated that a future merger would not result in dynamic fire behavior as seen last week.

Fire officials are working closely with the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, ODOT and the Oregon State Police to coordinate recovery efforts along the Santiam Canyon. Currently 16,776 structures are at Level 3 evacuations and another 18,528 homes in level 2 evacuations. It is imperative to protect first responders and communities in the path of the fire that everyone heeds fire and law enforcement road closures and evacuations. Anyone who enters the fire perimeter jeopardizes firefighting and rescue operations, puts lives at risk, and potentially increases the time it will take to return residents to their communities.




Start Date: September 8, 2020
Cause: Human

Acres: 135,401
Percent Containment: 0%

Total Personnel: 458 assigned

Additional Resources Arriving

There will be an online Riverside Fire community meeting tonight at 6 pm tonight on
Fb.com/RiversideFireInfo. A recording will be posted following the meeting. No account is required to view the video. If a pop-up box appears when you first navigate to the link, you can use the scroll bar on the right to scroll down to the view and/or click “not now” to minimize the login pop-up. You can ask questions on Facebook or e-mail questions to 2020.riverside@firenet.gov.

Firefighters continue to prioritize suppression actions closest to local communities. Today ground crews will continue to utilize infrared-capable drones to help identify hot spots. Firefighters on the ground are working to eliminate any remaining heat near the perimeter before these areas can be defined as ‘contained.’

We’re putting safety first. Over the past several days, firefighters have worked tirelessly to put in lines to stop any new fire growth towards the communities of Estacada, Colton, and Molalla,” said Incident Commander Alan Sinclair.

Firefighters will continue to strengthen and improve firelines down to the Clackamas River on the fire area located one half mile southeast of the community of Estacada, OR in the Faraday Lake area. Crews and engines continue to actively build and connect fireline in the Mckenzie Road, greater Elwood and Dodge areas where numerous pockets of fire are disconnected from the main fire perimeter. To the southeast of Estacada, crews are working to improve handline constructed over the previous days near the North Fork Reservoir and Highway 224.

To the west, dozers and hand crews will continue to stitch together holding lines in rugged terrain in the Green Mountain and Goat Mountain areas approximately five miles SE of the community of Colton, OR. Firefighters are working closely with the Oregon Department of Forestry to strengthen firelines near commercial timber stands while preventing any further growth towards the community of Molalla. The fire is continuing to smolder and creep in remote and backcountry areas such as the Roaring Fork Wilderness.
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So what the chances of another large and wide spread fire happening after this one burns out?
100%. Our fire season is only half through right now.

If you haven't lived here long enough to have fire PTSD, and to see dozens of kids with fireworks and schizos with gas cans get arrested for it, you haven't really lived here. (the northwest)
 

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If you haven't lived here long enough to have fire PTSD, and to see dozens of kids with fireworks and schizos with gas cans get arrested for it, you haven't really lived here. (the northwest)
You know you lived in the PNW when just a wiff of fire smoke will make you look out the window and check the local fire department's twitter.
 

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I live in British Columbia; it's fire season here as well but we're not burning to the fucking ground like the states below us. I saw the sun for the first time in days today because of the hundreds of fires in Washington State. Contrast that with a handful of contained fires in a much larger area up here and I'd say there's definitely something suspicious about the amount of fires down there. We also have the same kind of idiots scaling back our forestry management and logging that the rest of the coast suffers from.

What we don't have is a bunch of unhinged anarchists laying waste to our cities. Might be a coincidence - might not be.
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Eta: firemaps for BC and Washington/Oregon respectively.
 
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This is all so sad. I can't imagine losing your home to a fire
Almost happened to me once when the apartment behind mine a few years ago caught fire. I woke up to my apartment flooded with smoke and thankfully managed to open my door and get outside about a minute before the fire department was about to bash it open. Smoke alarm didn't even go off for some reason. Shit is indeed scary when there is even a chance of it happening, can't imagine how bad it would be when it's actively happening.
 
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I live in British Columbia; it's fire season here as well but we're not burning to the fucking ground like the states below us. I saw the sun for the first time in days today because of the hundreds of fires in Washington State. Contrast that with a handful of contained fires in a much larger area up here and I'd say there's definitely something suspicious about the amount of fires down there. We also have the same kind of idiots scaling back our forestry management and logging that the rest of the coast suffer from.

What we don't have is a bunch of unhinged anarchists laying waste to our cities. Might be a coincidence - might not be.
Because you maple sucking fucks don't have your entire media industry dedicated to destroying your own country, because well your mediascum are BUSY dedicated to destroying OUR country instead
(disavow whatever site this is, they just had the mention about it being a canadian org organizing a us protest, the other was subscription)

Y'lx and the other euro bitches lump all the worlds troubles on the usa's back since bush (can't personally verify that behavior about Reagan-ect because I don't have that first-hand, BUT was obvious even as a lefty at the time of bush)

We don't even know your PMs outside of us politi-spergs on places like here, you have no idea the luxury of which you partake as you have never known it's absence: your politics are your own to worry about, besides immigration and tariff malarkey everyone has always been plagued with, your concerns are you, yours, and your neighbors.

Meanwhile we have to deal with our problems while the rest of the world throws rocks at our windows as we are trying to put out a fire and sign a divorce at the same time.
The benefit to them is that it distracts your media from local scandals and have less viciously over-reported on elections so unlike us you don't have to go through destructive and finantially-destructive civil unrest every minor change of the guard.
 

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. We also have the same kind of idiots scaling back our forestry management and logging that the rest of the coast suffer from.
You sure about that?
How much of your land is private company owned, and how much is public management?

Our BLM land here is puny in comparison. Clear-cuts aren't management, but it's how the privately owned areas are doing it.

It's also a matter of latitude. California has it a lot worse than Washington, too.

Because you maple sucking fucks don't have your entire media industry dedicated to destroying your own country, because well your mediascum are BUSY dedicated to destroying OUR country instead
(disavow whatever site this is, they just had the mention about it being a canadian org organizing a us protest, the other was subscription)

Y'lx and the other euro bitches lump all the worlds troubles on the usa's back since bush (can't personally verify that behavior about Reagan-ect because I don't have that first-hand, BUT was obvious even as a lefty at the time of bush)

We don't even know your PMs outside of us politi-spergs on places like here, you have no idea the luxury of which you partake as you have never known it's absence: your politics are your own to worry about, besides immigration and tariff malarkey everyone has always been plagued with, your concerns are you, yours, and your neighbors.

Meanwhile we have to deal with our problems while the rest of the world throws rocks at our windows as we are trying to put out a fire and sign a divorce at the same time.
The benefit to them is that it distracts your media from local scandals and have less viciously over-reported on elections so unlike us you don't have to go through destructive and finantially-destructive civil unrest every minor change of the guard.
an extra shot of whiskey for my friend here.
 

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Because you maple sucking fucks don't have your entire media industry dedicated to destroying your own country, because well your mediascum are BUSY dedicated to destroying OUR country instead
(disavow whatever site this is, they just had the mention about it being a canadian org organizing a us protest, the other was subscription)

Y'lx and the other euro bitches lump all the worlds troubles on the usa's back since bush (can't personally verify that behavior about Reagan-ect because I don't have that first-hand, BUT was obvious even as a lefty at the time of bush)

We don't even know your PMs outside of us politi-spergs on places like here, you have no idea the luxury of which you partake as you have never known it's absence: your politics are your own to worry about, besides immigration and tariff malarkey everyone has always been plagued with, your concerns are you, yours, and your neighbors.

Meanwhile we have to deal with our problems while the rest of the world throws rocks at our windows as we are trying to put out a fire and sign a divorce at the same time.
The benefit to them is that it distracts your media from local scandals and have less viciously over-reported on elections so unlike us you don't have to go through destructive and finantially-destructive civil unrest every minor change of the guard.
For countries that reportedly hate us, they sure do love to obsess over us
 

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How much of your land is private company owned, and how much is public management?
95% crown land, 5% private.

It's also a matter of latitude. California has it a lot worse than Washington, too.
Is it an order of magnitude worse, just over the border? You'd figure that the effect of latitude would cause a tapering off over a larger area, not a drop to nearly zero over the space of a hundred or so miles.
 

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You sure about that?
How much of your land is private company owned, and how much is public management?

Our BLM land here is puny in comparison. Clear-cuts aren't management, but it's how the privately owned areas are doing it.

It's also a matter of latitude. California has it a lot worse than Washington, too.
Here's a pair of fun pics just for the thread.

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Here's a pair of fun pics just for the thread.

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I live in British Columbia; it's fire season here as well but we're not burning to the fucking ground like the states below us. I saw the sun for the first time in days today because of the hundreds of fires in Washington State. Contrast that with a handful of contained fires in a much larger area up here and I'd say there's definitely something suspicious about the amount of fires down there. We also have the same kind of idiots scaling back our forestry management and logging that the rest of the coast suffers from.

What we don't have is a bunch of unhinged anarchists laying waste to our cities. Might be a coincidence - might not be.
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Eta: firemaps for BC and Washington/Oregon respectively.
So you can blame Orange Man because he supposedly has dictatorial control over everything the Feds do, and not being on board with the Green New Deal means that everyone in his admin is completely ignorant of anything ecology-related?
 

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You know you lived in the PNW when just a wiff of fire smoke will make you look out the window and check the local fire department's twitter.
In the country they'd already know because their fire pager went off.

Rural vollys in the PNW are wildland experts and they do it for free with cast-off equipment. It's not unusual for them to have custom-built brush trucks made out in some farmer's barn. Growing up in a small town in the Cascade rain shadow our district had one they called "the dozer" it was a '59 Ford 1-ton they lifted and converted to 4wd then crammed a 390 Interceptor engine into. It was a fucking beast and on calls the guys would race to the station to get to it first rather than being stuck driving the other newer brush truck, "Attack" the F-700, or the shitty old military surplus tender.

The town also had an old Civil Defense siren. If it went off it meant "Every able-bodied man get your ass to the station. Shit is going down and we need everybody."
 
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