The exceptional individuals of Lioden and other 'pet sites' - Who would have known games about making animals fuck would attract toxic communities?

[Inlé]

Pet sites attract the weirdest users I swear, I dropped Flight Rising, Lioden and Dappervolk because I couldn't stand the levels of entitlement these whiny, thin-skinned kids have. Last time I checked Flight Rising they had opened a thread for people to discuss their genders and it was like reading a book upside down.

 

[Section230]

Trypophobia isn't a real thing and there's nothing that tumblr troons can say to make me think otherwise.
And even if it is they should seize the day and take adventage of this free exposure therapy.

It is and it isn't. The revulsion to hivey weird organic looking holes is an evolutionary thing, we're scared of people with gross skin lesions from illness. But of course, people play it up, and it gets attention, so they convince themselves that they have an extreme reaction and it feeds on itself.

I don't see in any way how that image is reminiscent of anything that would trigger trypophobia anyway, and the seizure thing... if a pattern like that can give you seizures then it's your problem to isolate yourself.

 

[D.Va]

Oh boy, oh fucking boy. I’m a longtime lioden user, and I have some glorious screencaps from two community member’s mental breakdown over a staff member taking a break to avoid the community.

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What a world

Can we get a rundown on what a "dirty breeder" is

 

[WhoBusTank69]

It's amazing that these sites still persist, I thought they would have been wiped out or at least shriveled up but witnessing how the modern audience experiences and acts in relation to them is very enlightening and entertaining.
Cheers, OP, pretty good thread.

 

[UglyGremlin69]

Can we get a rundown on what a "dirty breeder" is

Dirty Breeding is the default playstyle of LioDen. It is considered 'dirty' because it allows incest.
Unlike Flight Rising, where dragons have to be several generations removed or no relation at all to breed with one another; on LioDen, lions as close as father and daughter are allowed to breed together.

Clean Breeding has two different definitions. One definition allows for incest, so long as the lions produced are not related to a small core group. The second definition doesn't allow for any incest.

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This whole thing with the player base's autistic reaction to a single marking is hilarious to me. Within a week it will be forgotten and all those who threatened to leave will still be playing, just waiting for the next perceived transgression by staff to start screeching once more.
Unless someone threatens to take LioDen to court again.

 

[Fuck!]

Oh boy, oh fucking boy. I’m a longtime lioden user, and I have some glorious screencaps from two community member’s mental breakdown over a staff member taking a break to avoid the community.

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What a world

Oh my god Jax, yeah hes still being a little shit during the Rumble drama as well. Holy shit the rabbit hole goes so deep.

 

[Archeosaur A. Dromaeosaur]

Oh my god Jax, yeah hes still being a little shit during the Rumble drama as well. Holy shit the rabbit hole goes so deep.

Jax is an interesting person, simultaneously annoying and amusing. I used to follow their antics semi-frequently before I stopped giving a shit. Last I heard they got in trouble for saying they’d date a trans man but not a cis man, and for being a landlord irl.

 

[literategorilla]

Great writeup OP. I've been looking into the Rumble drama myself but couldn't be fucked to trawl through hundreds of pages of blog posts and threads.

 

[AnOminous]

To the contrary, I've seen OPs that suck; this is actually a pretty good OP. Sure, it's just one incident, but a lot of threads on communities here seem to start with a single incident that finally became the tipping point, that just exemplifies a lot of other underlying problems in the community.

A community that would get this ragingly autistic about this one incident is obviously a bunch of lolcows who will freak out and completely lose their shit about the next nothing that happens, too. They're insane.

 

[Heartmoth]

Woah "Neurodivergent" that's a cool word
Maybe I can use that word to get more attention on instagram

 

[Fuck!]

Woah "Neurodivergent" that's a cool word
Maybe I can use that word to get more attention on instagram

Don't forget to publicly list every mental disorder, physical disorder, traumatic experience, and minor inconvenience you've ever had to make sure you're completely woobified.

 

[Space Lobster Bat]

Man, petsites tend to be full of drama if you ever pay attention to the community and not just your collection of pixeled whatevers.

I remember playing one called Magistream. It was one of those 'three stages, have other people click on them to grow them' ones. Anyways, around Christmas they had an event where people had trees on their profile, and you could gift other users some of the pets you had. It showed how many people had gotten gifts by how the tree looked, and there was a maximum amount of gifts someone could get. This was to encourage random gifting of players, since it was easy to see "Oh, this person doesn't have any gifts, let me send them something".

Which to me was a nifty idea in the first place. The staff also hinted that it was the season of GIVING, and if you gifted someone, your tree got a special extra icon (I think it was a star on top, I don't super remember). Which hints that they're keeping track of people who gifted stuff, right? People noticed this, and mentioned it on the forums, but others just shrugged it off and said it was just for an extra sparkle on your tree.

Turns out that the day that everyone opened their gifts, everyone got an extra pet from the mods... and those that gifted others got ANOTHER special pet. I think they were white deer or something. Good incentive for gifting next time around, right? And IIRC, you could breed the deer, so people could still get them eventually, just not 1st gen ones.

People BITCHED. About how it was unfair that because they didn't give anyone anything, they didn't get an extra free gift, and they should specifically have been TOLD to be nice and giving during the season to get extra rewards. Most people just shook their heads at them and knew they were completely missing the point, but I think they were still bitching a couple months after... and I stopped playing during that year, so I don't know what happened the next year, but as far as I know they caved and just gave everyone the same thing.

 

[Moguro Fukuzou]

Pet sites themselves are pretty okay, but the people it attract are what usually turn them into unenjoyable experiences. FR has a lot of those people that get attracted to it, most of the drama that comes out though is very site specific which doesn't make sense to those that don't play. For example, the site has a "Dominance" feature that happens weekly between the various player occupied flights (Water, Earth, Fire, Wind, Arcane, Shadow, Plague, Lightening, Ice, Light, and Nature) plus one NPC flight. Every week there seems to be new drama surrounding it depending on who wins or in-flight drama leaking outside. Overall, drama that is of little interest to outsiders.

There has been more recent drama (first heard about it a year ago, no idea of the current situation) around one user named Tox for apparently being a known pedophile making friends with underage people on the site. Got caught running a pro-map server that encouraged minors to join. There's a huge callout post on Tumblr where someone tracked down all their accounts on sites like A03, Toyhou.se, and DA that shows them shipping adults and minors together. He was banned back in April of last year after a lot of people on and off site pressured the site staff to do something, no idea if they've joined back with another name or moved on to another site.

http://archive.md/MPlmq

For anyone looking for any more drama that's FR related this Drama blog is a good spot to dig. Most of it is just site related non-drama, but there's sometimes some juicy drama posted. They only post initials if they're calling out people on-site (sometimes if it gets big enough someone will start posting names in the comments) which sometimes makes it harder to figure out who is being talked about. There was a previous drama blog that was a lot more "spicy" in what it allowed, lots of uncensored call out posts, that eventually got shutdown most likely due to that.

Appears to be some new drama brewing there over one user warriorjames being a furry into really weird shit, multiple call out posts have been posted on them. One user when asked for proof posted a screenshot of all their digging into their linked FA account and SoFurry account where they have shit like zoophilia and a bunch of other weird shit.

Spoiler: Big screenshot ahead

 

[Chamulum]

And to think I used to use this website.

 

[Shaka Brah]

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And to think I used to use this website.

What's inherently liberal about a... Wait, is it the bestiality?

 

[Archeosaur A. Dromaeosaur]

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And to think I used to use this website.

I’m glad they included a reaction image that perfectly exemplified my expression after reading that. “Alt-right”, “inherently liberal” it’s a game about fake lions.

In fact, it seems pretty telling that these “alt righters” enjoy playing with gay pixel cats. It’s almost like they’re just throwing out random buzzwords because they can’t fathom the fact that people are laughing at them because their whining is funny.

 

[AnOminous]

What's inherently liberal about a... Wait, is it the bestiality?

Or perhaps the incest.

 

[An Entire Juice Box]

Out of all the stupid shit people have gotten outraged over on Lioden, this takes the cake as the dumbest. People are complaining about seizures and Trypophobia (Assuming Trypophobia is a real thing and not a Tumblr creation.), but this game has a ton of things that would cause those. There are a TON of markings that are just as bad, if not worse when it comes to tiny spots. There's an entire set of markings that consist of nothing but tiny spots. But no one is throwing a tantrum over those. And if someone is suffering from epilepsy from patterns on static images, I feel like the huge amount of markings and decor that can be put on a lion would be just as likely to cause epilepsy as one dang marking.

There's been a wealth of stupid drama on Lioden, I will share whatever I can dig out of the dusty recesses of my brain.

 

[Fuck!]

I don't feel like it's pertinent to add to the OP but holy shit the people on the lioden vent blog are so reasonable and kind

Jax is the protagonist of this whole story and I am loving it lmfao.

 

[Archeosaur A. Dromaeosaur]

I don't feel like it's pertinent to add to the OP but holy shit the people on the lioden vent blog are so reasonable and kind

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Jax is the protagonist of this whole story and I am loving it lmfao.

Jax is absolutely the star of this show, I once considered writing up an op on them before deciding nobody would care.
I’m still not entirely sure the rest of the site will enjoy Jax’s bullshit the way I do. Admittedly, they’re a bit too repetitive and self aware for a proper lolcow.


But I just can’t help but find them hilarious, they just got called out for talking about fucking werewolves in the middle of “the rumble issues”.

Spoiler: Monsterfucker