Science The first-ever photo of a black hole released today - get hyped

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Spectacular? No, absolutely not.
It shows matter accelerated to half the speed of light by nothing more than falling towards a massive object. How can that not be spectacular?

Lol I don't know what people were expecting, but it looks exactly as I thought it would. It's not in the middle of a belch which I think is the more interesting part. That's how most black holes were viewed is with the energy expulsion along the axis. It's pretty cool you can see the warping along the event horizon.

So it's a shadow, they say? So black holes can cast shadows? I mean, they're collapsed stars so there's a physical, perhaps tangible mass there, and there's known rogue black holes just roaming through space, but still. That means there is something in there, it's not just a giant hole in space where nothing exists. Something's in there.
The shadow we see is not the same kind of shadow any object would create. It's the area of spacetime that is curved so hard, light can't pass through towards us. It's not so much blocked as it is either twisted away or outright consumed by a gigantic gravity pull.
 
It really is groundbreaking though. It has once and for all proven the existence of black holes, and has proven Einstein's theories even more so. On top of that, it proved the efficacy of using the their telescope arrangement to see things unimaginably far away at a great resolution compared to other techniques, not to mention that getting a picture of this black hole is the equivalent to trying to get a picture of an apple on the surface of the moon from the earth in terms of its size. It's impressive, especially considering that the scientists are now planning on taking measures to get an even higher resolution photo. This was just a proof of concept if anything.

And besides, what's wrong with MIT celebrating a grad student's involvement in this? What's wrong with said person being thrilled they contributed to something groundbreaking? Yeah there's going to be the inevitable SJW circlejerk on Twitter, but the images you posted only show a university and a scientist who are happy about their involvement and contributions. This is going to be treated as groundbreaking because it is.
It's a first, and it does sound like the grad student came up with a very interesting method to increase the available resolution, which is a big deal if we want to look at things that are either small, far away, or some combination of the two.

The picture's not too exciting, admittedly...

It shows matter accelerated to half the speed of light by nothing more than falling towards a massive object. How can that not be spectacular?
Well, it's a still picture, so the speed isn't really detectable. But eh, half the speed of light is nothing, wake me up when we can see something going faster! Or at least, mount a camera on an object going half the speed of light in the other direction.
 

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Well, it's a still picture, so the speed isn't really detectable.
That's like saying "The picture of an atomic explosion isn't spectacular since you don't feel the heat, hear the thunder or see the effects it will have after everything is over."

That’s an orange hole. Way to get your colors right, scientists lmao
Orange is the new black, though.
 
That's like saying "The picture of an atomic explosion isn't spectacular since you don't feel the heat, hear the thunder or see the effects it will have after everything is over."
Yeah, the picture of an atomic explosion has a giant fucking mushroom cloud that looks cool, along with a blast zone, usually some recently blown up shit.

The picture of something going fast has nothing but a still image, the same exact thing a picture of something not moving at all would produce. I'm sure you agree a picture of matter moving at 0x the speed of light is unexciting, and unfortunately, the picture we have is indistinguishable from that.
 

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Yeah, the picture of an atomic explosion has a giant fucking mushroom cloud that looks cool, along with a blast zone, usually some recently blown up shit.

The picture of something going fast has nothing but a still image, the same exact thing a picture of something not moving at all would produce. I'm sure you agree a picture of matter moving at 0x the speed of light is unexciting, and unfortunately, the picture we have is indistinguishable from that.


This image has neither "a giant fucking mushroom cloud that looks cool", "a blast zone" nor "some recently blown up shit".
It could be an upturned sack of cotton or sand. Does that make it any less spectacular?
Both in this case as well as the black hole image, the very existence of such an image is amazing. In the former case, a camera made an image in such a short time that it caught a nuclear fireball while it was still expanding. In the latter case, it shows an object in 55 million lightyears distance in quite astounding (yet blurry) quality.

I guess what I'm saying is that I disagree on this matter.
 


This image has neither "a giant fucking mushroom cloud that looks cool", "a blast zone" nor "some recently blown up shit".
It could be an upturned sack of cotton or sand. Does that make it any less spectacular?
Both in this case as well as the black hole image, the very existence of such an image is amazing. In the former case, a camera made an image in such a short time that it caught a nuclear fireball while it was still expanding. In the latter case, it shows an object in 55 million lightyears distance in quite astounding (yet blurry) quality.

I guess what I'm saying is that I disagree on this matter.
Yeah, that is a very unspectacular image. If I was trying to get someone excited about nuclear explosions, I certainly would not lead with the scrubbing bubbles image from that toilet cleaner. I'd probably use something like this:

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or maybe this:
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I think you'd be better off not being the dude who picks pictures for popular science articles.
 

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Guys, were just not looking at it right. Once we’ve accumulated enough insight, we’ll finally be able to see the visage of a colossal, incomprehensible interdimensional abomination stretching its asshole apart with its weird tentacle hand things to satiate it’s public humiliation fetish.
 

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Not gonna say this ain't important, but it's not something that is "OMG SO GROUNDBREAKING!". It will be treated as such because

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All the "omg i fucking luv science" wahmen of twitter are congratulating each other for this amazing discovery they all did together.

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You're a moron with a meaningless job.
 
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getting a picture of this black hole is the equivalent to trying to get a picture of an apple on the surface of the moon from the earth in terms of its size
M 87 -- the rather dull but massive elliptical galaxy this black hole is in -- is about 53 million light years away, so it's amazing they can see that much detail.

It also means we see it as it was about 53 million years ago, so if it were to somehow explode today for no reason, any on Earth wouldn't know until about 53 million years from now (assuming faster than light travel and communication is impossible).
 
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