The Future of The Republican Party -

[Marco Fucko]

Post thoughts here on what direction the Republicans will take after Trump serves his second term. Do you guys think they will maintain ties with the religious right, even in a time where religiosity has been slowly but surely declining for years? Will they lean more heavily into Nationalism and right populism with guys like Carlson? Or will they display 420 IQ and become hard leftists to finally make Democrats the real racists?

Personally I can see them returning to a pre-Trump attitude of neoconservatism and fighting in the name of deregulation and religious mores. A lot of the #NeverTrumpers still have positions of influence after all, and a lot of the more mainstream New Right types have been leaning into the anti-SJW shtick, probably to keep favor with religious Republicans.

 

[soft kitty]

Hard to say. The Right's platform has remained largely consistent over the years. Pro-life, patriotism, tradition, religion, low taxes, less regulation. I think it's going to stay the same after Trump is out of office.

It's the Left who's platform has shifted radically.

 

[HumanHive]

The alliance between the GOP and the religious right was not an alliance with religion in general, it was with politically active evangelicals - who by this point have been thouroughly told to fuck off.

I personally hated the evangelicals because all you needed to do to appease them was mention God and Jesus a few times, and afterwards needed produce zero results. They were a useless albatross on the party; which is not true of religion in general.

As for the future of the GOP, it is clearly becoming a populist worker's party. Pity some in the GOP still want to stab them in the back too.

 

[Marco Fucko]

As for the future of the GOP, it is clearly becoming a populist worker's party. Pity some in the GOP still want to stab them in the back too.

That'll be the most interesting intraparty conflict. Not saying the Democrats aren't pro-corporation, but the Republicans have been moreso. Having figureheads sympathetic to workers like Tucker and part of Alt-Right rhetoric being in favor of domestic workers over immigrants is bound to come to a head against the like of the Kochs.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Be more stupid.

 

[Megaroad 2012]

Anime avatar pseudo Republicans unite!

 

[Duke Nukem]

The DNC is going full blown communist but Trumpism has largely become the face of the party, most of the never Trumpers are either out of office or writing ludicrous "journalism" articles about how "unmanly" or whatever they think DJT is. It seems somewhat unlikely that Joe Biden is going to be replaced with somebody that knows what planet he's on, so whatever the party is in the next few years we'll probably be stuck with them.

I'm happy as long as they don't take my guns away and turn the country into a commie SJW gulag.

 

[Slap47]

Nobody can replace Trump. Everybody will try to act like him but they will succumb to scandals. They'll give up on being Trump and fallback on their evangelical ways and lose.

The US is a majority Democrat country and most people dislike the religious right. Trump was able to deconstruct a lineup of evangelicals during his primary but they're still in the party.

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

Libertarians that actively want to win aid the GOP into becoming a no so bad alternative for desinfranchised leftists and demographic shifts with community leaders make the party more accesible in the groups the DNC has been preying on for decades. Fundamentally both big parties end up becoming the same except economics and how explicit they are on social issues. If theres any attribute I can see the GOP keeping intact is their stances on foreing intervention. These changes could lead the GOP to reclaim their status, since they could reclaim Lincoln and Roosevelt and back it up with modern leaders. However I see these changes not being of any matter in the future because both parties, again, fundamentally will only be different when they come in contention of the White House.
I know I might sound very optimistic but the truth is that american politics are drifting and certain groups are willing to vote GOP if they bother to pander to them. Even if they do nothing its still between them (the default politicians) and the wackos that seem to be the DNCs future.

 

[Ita Mori]

The US is a majority Democrat country

Based on what?

most people dislike the religious right.

Most people also dislike the IdPol left.

It's far easier for a religious loon to downplay his bible thumping than it is for troons to downplay their victimhood.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Hmmm, hard to say. The party became proactively entropic rather than conservative a while ago and it's constantly milling around for a new 'reagan', Trump has added a popularist element but it's ultimatly reactionary rather than proactive. Although the subtext of acknowlaging that America wasnt great was a stroke of brilliance.
If they're smart they'll build on the rust belt wins and incorporate some working class wellfare issue issues and some policies to de-incentivize using Mexicans. Bush largely proved they don't really have to do anything to get the bible belt to vote for them so the group is ultimatly irrelivant outside of free votes.

 

[Rand /pol/]

It'll either become a dead party in 30 years due to America becoming less white or shift its ideology.

 

[PC78]

Well, I'm a young conservative voter. In general I like the Republican party,though the don't get enough conservative things done. I actually voted for a conservative third party in 2012 and 2016.

 

[Hyrip123876]

Given the Democrats are becoming more and more pro-business-- as in, will defend the multi-billion entity to death if it has a pride flag variant on its logo-- I predict a subtle shift in the dynamics to one where the Dems attract people that want control (be it governmental or private) because they deem it necessary to safeguard whatever rights and privileges their secondary identity groups fall into, while Republicans maintain a focus on personal and economic autonomy, even if it's only the rich that get the tax cuts.

I think regardless of 2020's result, Trump is just the symbol of whats to come electorally. The West Coast, the South-west border states, and the Atlantic Metro will be solidly democrat due to status quo politics + 20 more years of demographics.
Meanwhile, Republicans maintain a lot of what they've currently got. They may lose Florida as a battleground state and Texas will go purple, but in order to survive they need to replace that with the Rust Belt. Michigan and Ohio already nearly make up for losing Texas on their own. Consolidating the north alongside their other southern and fly-over states is a viable coalition, with an emphasis on economic prosperity and attention for people that clearly haven't been getting any from the Democrats (unless it's about dirty water or gun crime)

This is probably why the DNC like Biden. He stalls this transformation for a bit because unlike Hillary, he won't list off the various minority groups he's gonna advocate for, he harkens back to an almost-comically old style of politics that used to resonate with people. If the Democrats can find a way to inhibit Republicans from conquering the north then they've got it in the bag.. They've already got 250 EC seats secure, so low turnout by black people or Latinos doesn't hold a candle to the, what? 80 EC seats in the Rust Belt that are feasibly flippable.

It's sort of ironic that the Democrats are eagerly awaiting it, and the Trumpian Republicans see it as an apocalyptic inevitability, but the USA become white minority by 2050 will just make it's electoral politics more white-focused than ever. Most black people, asians and hispanics are gonna thoroughly solidify the allegiance of states in the North-east, South and West, leaving the what? 80+% white states in the Rust Belt with the attention of both parties as the kingmakers for the foreseeable future.
that's how I predict at least one future election to go. Maybe Venezuela will suffer an exodus of millions of anti-communists and permanently redden Texas? The future hinges on the RNC and DNC's immediate strategies whether they make sense or not

 

[Niggernerd]

Should be pro anime

 

[Dildo]

I think it's irrelevant what way the Republican party changes. They're on course to be out-bred by Democrat voters.

I don't mean this in the "secure a future for white children" sense. For all the Republican tantrums about abortion; the demographics more likely to vote Democrat are expanding. And the flight from coastal states into previously Republican strongholds like Texas (See Austin's radical change on this front) is only speeding this up.

In the long term it's going to take the Democrats doing something so awful they can never recover from it and considering they made a come back from being the pro slavery party this is unlikely. Either that, or it would necessitate the rise of a new party far more tempting and attractive to their current core base to split or entirely take away the vote.

In my opinion for the foreseeable the Republican party is too damaged with a history of several recent presidents that can only politely be described as "strange" in regards to Bush jr, Trump etc and terrible optics. Like it's now widely regarded not as the party of religious loons in Europe, but the party of tin foil bat wearing q anon flat earther speds.

I mean the online behaviour helps right now, and Trump is almost guaranteed to get in again. There may even be future republican governments after but down the line....Yeah, demographically they're fucked.

And before someone accuses me of being a leftie, I really ain't.

 

[mindlessobserver]

That'll be the most interesting intraparty conflict. Not saying the Democrats aren't pro-corporation, but the Republicans have been moreso. Having figureheads sympathetic to workers like Tucker and part of Alt-Right rhetoric being in favor of domestic workers over immigrants is bound to come to a head against the like of the Kochs.

The Conservative populists aren't Anti-corporate though. I think most of them will be perfectly fine with the traditional "don't regulate and tax business" too much mantra of the party. What they don't like is overweening corporate power. So Google paying little tax = Okay, Google telling you what morality is = Bad. Conservative populism is also perfectly okay with a certain degree of social welfare that serves to buttress the economy so long as it does become the economy itself. i.e, Small Business loans backed by Uncle Sugar = Okay. "Infinite free money" in the form of Gibs = Bad.

This is the major diverging point between the Neocons and the new Populists conservatives. The Neocons love them some power structures. Government or Corporate, does not really matter. The Populist conservatives absolutely despise them. The Neocons also have a very darwinian view of the economy. In that if Wal-Mart and Amazon destroy the small local retailers, then that is fine. Feeds back into their love of power structure. Populist conservatives would point out this is unfair, and probably also supported by arbitrary government support anyway, like with Amazons sweetheart deal with the Post Office.

I think the only real shift in the Republican party will be the Neocons getting replaced by the Populist wing. None of the up and coming young Republicans are Neocons. They all are coming from the Populist side.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I think it's irrelevant what way the Republican party changes. They're on course to be out-bred by Democrat voters.

I don't mean this in the "secure a future for white children" sense. For all the Republican tantrums about abortion; the demographics more likely to vote Democrat are expanding. And the flight from coastal states into previously Republican strongholds like Texas (See Austin's radical change on this front) is only speeding this up.

In the long term it's going to take the Democrats doing something so awful they can never recover from it and considering they made a come back from being the pro slavery party this is unlikely. Either that, or it would necessitate the rise of a new party far more tempting and attractive to their current core base to split or entirely take away the vote.

In my opinion for the foreseeable the Republican party is too damaged with a history of several recent presidents that can only politely be described as "strange" in regards to Bush jr, Trump etc and terrible optics. Like it's now widely regarded not as the party of religious loons in Europe, but the party of tin foil bat wearing q anon flat earther speds.

I mean the online behaviour helps right now, and Trump is almost guaranteed to get in again. There may even be future republican governments after but down the line....Yeah, demographically they're fucked.

And before someone accuses me of being a leftie, I really ain't.

I think you have a point about the Republican Party being too damaged by the optics of guys like Reagan and Bush (and Trump to a lesser extent) but at the same time, I would not be surprised if we see another major party realignment in the 2020's if Trump wins a second term.

I'm not going to jinx it and say Trump has it in the bag, especially since COVID-19 is a major X-factor nobody saw coming, and several states hit hardest by lockdowns are potentially key swing states like Michigan.

But if Trump does win a second term, then expect both the GOP and the DNC to realign or at least massively overhaul their platforms and do some major restructuring all throughout the 2020's and 2030's.

Right now, all these assumptions of the Republican Party becoming nonviable in the long-term are built on the assumption that the current Sixth Party System that's been in place since 1980 at the latest (and 1968 at the earliest) is going to remain in place for the long-term.

We're at a point where we could see the end of the Sixth Party System and the start of a Seventh Party System within this decade, and it's honestly a 50/50 shot either way of the current party system continuing along for another generation or a new political paradigm begin to take shape here in America.

 

[Terrorist]

It'll only survive post-boomers as "(Implied) White Workers Party". The direction it was going pre-Trump and what party elites still think is the way to go, "Diet Democrat Zionist Libertarians", will kill it. Look at how the existing Libertarian Party does...people don't vote for that shit.

 

[Slap47]

Based on what?

Most people eligible to vote are registered with the Democratic Party and most independents lean blue. The country is majority Democrat and the only thing stopping an actual Blue Wave is Trump's powerful personality and the utter corruption of the Democratic party.

Most people also dislike the IdPol left.

It's far easier for a religious loon to downplay his bible thumping than it is for troons to downplay their victimhood.

Not really. They can be tard wrangled but they now have an oppression complex. Can't help but sperg out and say things that most Americans find objectionable.