The global increases in Troonism, Furryism, levels of depression, declining living standards, are all connected and its all being done on purpose

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Basically the elites want us to consume less resources and reproduce less, as part of their population control plan. Their end goal is to own everything physical, with everyone else living their lives in internet VR worlds that take up zero physical space. See the World Economic Forum's plans for the "Great Reset" and look up the recent "Metaverse" that has been announced. But they can't force everyone to live like this because there's too few of them and too many of us, if they piss enough people off then their heads will roll. (this is also one of the reasons they want to reduce the population, to make us easier to control.)

Therefore, they have to make us want it. Make people want to live in the virtual world more than they want to live in the real world. Thus, they are both trying to make people want to be something that is not possible IRL, and make the real world shitty so people become less interested in it.

Make people struggle to maintain their real-life standard of living, by raising taxes and ruining education to make it harder to advance your standing. Make people physically and mentally sick with drugs and processed food. Then if they seek help for that, sell them medications that have other negative effects.

Control the flow of ideas, both to maintain control and make people angry that their opinion can't be heard, both as a demoralization tactic to reduce attempts at gaining political control, and to create a desire for people to live in a different world where they can speak their mind.

Make people depressed by making it harder for both genders to find fulfilling social and romantic relationships. Drive people insane by using media from an early age to implant unrealistic social expectations, and also to instill impossible desires, like wanting to be the opposite gender or wanting to be a real life furry. Feed them pornography to give them unrealistic sexual expectations and also develop fetishes (again, like troonism and furryism). This results in disappointment and frustration since meeting/getting others to meet unrealistic expectations and fetishes makes it much harder to form relationships.

Then, after creating all these physical and mental challenges designed to make people alone, frustrated, and depressed, show them a virtual world, where if they abandon the "real" world and live in the virtual one, they can have a high standard of living, in whatever body they want, alongside other like-minded people.

Lots of people would abandon the real world to live in a wish-fulfillment fantasy, if VR tech was good enough. I wouldn't, but a lot of people would. And that's what the elites want, because they need to have a huge percentage of people not reproducing or participating in the real world. When that happens, they can reach their goals of total asset ownership and significant population reduction.
 

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I can see that. Idk, there's so many theories about what's going on out there its hard to tell what's going on. I think the elites want control but there's too many ideas and not one person at the wheel.
That's the problem with conspiracy thinking, you can convince yourself of the possibility that 'they' want you to believe in them.
 

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I don't think its being done on purpose. Its just a bunch of ego driven morons who have way too much influence on society acting selfishly and with extreme short sightedness at the same time. Do I believe some people at the top took advantage and even influenced events as they happened? Absolutely, but they did not create these events with any intent and are merely taking advantage for their own selfish benefit.

The CDC wanted more money budgeted their way and jumped on Covid like they did with Ebola, swine flu and countless other illnesses (but I think even they were surprised by the over reaction to Covid) to get it. A bunch of companies and the 1% saw this as an opportunity to abuse stock shorting, a practice I still advocate should be made illegal, to make crap tons of money off failing companies or even buy ownership in their own companies on the cheap. The media could get tons of clicks with fear mongering Covid. Politicians saw an easy way to get votes by "doing the right thing" in response. Its not controlled, but a bunch of individual factors that happened to collide to create a perfect shitstorm. The core of it all is that everyone at the bottom suffers for it. Though companies, and therefore the 1%, are also now starting to see how that hurts them in the long term as inflation and the US labor market shifting away from employer to employee control is only the first of many blows they will have to stomach.

This is also not a new phenomena in human history. Relative peace and prosperity leads to generations of weak people, shitty rulers and corrupted morals and ethics. Ultimately leading to the society falling apart from within rather than without. I have said this a thousand times, but just look up the mice Utopia experiments and you will practically see a mirror of the more degenerate part of society in fucking mice.
 
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I think that if that was on purpose then there's literally nothing you can do to stop it. Think about the kind of power, foresight and long term planning involved for such a successful execution. I don't think people dead set on ruining a country could do it so perfectly.

People get a lot (reassurance, identity) from thinking they're a movie protagonist fighting against a great evil, I do not envy such people. Just make sure you don't also end up depressed or a troon and you'll be OK.
 

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Sexual degeneracy has always existed. Most of these people either live in cities, which generally fuck with human senses and cause lack of ownership, or are the result of actual, literal autism or mental sickness. These people are easily influenced, it's not so much that whatever force or group you see creates these people, it's more that these people are emotionally driven and idiotic. Furries, trannies, and gay commies suffer from tremendous group think, they're not outsiders who differ from the majority because they hold views that are counter, they're weirdos who want to fuck animals, cut off their dick, and lack self control. If a group leader yells something, they echo it because they cannot validate their existence.

Read the Bible, read the Tao Te Ching, or whatever. Humans have always struggled with literal retards. The Bible said to stone an obstinate child who's parents feed into that because back then it's both a waste of resources and an embarrassment to have a Chris-chan in your community. We live in a time where their is unseen prosperity. Fritz-Haber process gave us more food than we need, we're talking on a fucking network that most people would chalk up to magic. Of course their are going to be autists that horrify most normal people, of course elites are going to warp perceptions of what is normal and destroy any culture or ethos that opposes them and furries and trannies will be glad to do it for them.

Furries and trannies are hated by anyone who's read even a bit of religious texts because how pleasure oriented they are, they don't do long term planning. The most they do is saving money for a fursuit. These are not people who really push a society, they are the autists who will do meaningless labor over and over without thought because they seek pleasure. If polite society outlawed their shit and then someone with money says they support it they'll fucking jump. Argue about them infiltrating schools to manipulate kids or being promoted sure. But it's not really chicken and egg shit, it's more that trannies have no control of their lives so anyone who offers them a bit of control is deified. Why do you think tranny janny is a meme? They'll do it for free because they don't have any real power irl, even over themselves. You think any self-respecting person would cut off their own dick or tits?

To reiterate, I think they're just a dumb, easily manipulated groups. They're the faithful of the pleasure gospel and they'll readily sacrifice apostates. Do elites or whatever support turning kids into trannies and furries? Maybe if it gets their rocks off, but probably just appeasing their followers. I think school shit is just ego tripping about how they can force your kids to listen to some cat mom talk about how her boyfriend has an axe wound between his legs.
 

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Decieving and Degeneracy are symptoms of a declining society and it's happened many times in ancient societies. I think the end of this era of humanity is close and there's really nothing we can do to stop it in time. However, we can be hopeful that the people who remain to build the next era, make it better and that we'll live long enough to see it happen.
 

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The Anglosphere is dying and all the things you've mentioned are the symptoms, it's very similar to what was happening in the Roman Empire in the last century of it's existence.
This stuff isn't really that much of a problem outside of the English speaking countries.
You see a bit of that in Western Europe but they'll survive, Britain will probably be fine as well, what will fall is the EU, that won't exist soon.
US, Canada and Australia though? OOF, these countries need some serious intervention ASAP if they want to keep existing.
I might be wrong but i'm predicting the US will split into 2-3 smaller nations (maybe more) by the end of the 21st century, there's just too much division.
 

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I think this is simply a biproduct of a society that values liberty and freedom, and a ton of factions trying to get their piece of the pie. We used to have enough dignity or morality that this kind of thing was universally shunned, but now things have shifted enough that its acceptable to be a degenerate. No one in charge can afford to blatantly throw rejects like furries, troons, etc. under the bus without them rallying together to condemn them. So you need to walk this fine line where you do just barely enough to avoid their wrath but not too much that you're actually supporting these unhealthy lifestyles. That being said I do believe that the majority of people realize this is nuts, it's just that these groups also realized the power of strength in numbers.
 

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I think this is simply a biproduct of a society that values liberty and freedom, and a ton of factions trying to get their piece of the pie. We used to have enough dignity or morality that this kind of thing was universally shunned, but now things have shifted enough that its acceptable to be a degenerate. No one in charge can afford to blatantly throw rejects like furries, troons, etc. under the bus without them rallying together to condemn them. So you need to walk this fine line where you do just barely enough to avoid their wrath but not too much that you're actually supporting these unhealthy lifestyles. That being said I do believe that the majority of people realize this is nuts, it's just that these groups also realized the power of strength in numbers.
The problem is the rapidly increasing number of degenerates brewing amongst the children. Pronouns and colored hair are only becoming more prominent with the zoomers.
 

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The problem is the rapidly increasing number of degenerates brewing amongst the children. Pronouns and colored hair are only becoming more prominent with the zoomers.
Definitely agree. I think unrestricted internet use is a big issue. I know someone whos teen has this issue because they see this stuff online and say things like all their friends are "trans" so they need to be trans too to fit and and be special and cool. Even though they literally have no idea about their gender or anything, It's clear they are just trying to fit in and not be an outcast among their peers. Then some fraction of kids end up sticking with it, realize later as an adult it was a horrible idea but they're in too deep so they double down and influence the next generation of kids to do the same (look at most of the troon lolcows on this site). Contrast with strict eastern cultures where you get disowned and shunned if you do this stuff and it's clear why we are falling behind.
 

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Alright, since I've got some free time with illness, its been something I've wanted to address.

I've said many times on this forum that what looks like a conspiracy is really a stand alone complex. This is a bunch of solo actors working towards a similar goal without actually cooperating or doing it together. And that singular goal is maintaining the late-stage capitalist system. It appears on its face to be something conspiratorial, but its not. Its a bunch of elites doing things solo to promote their own interests. You have to understand, that billionaires rarely form a cabal. billionaires are the most amoral, sociopathic individuals on planet earth. They're in constant competition with each other and seek to devour as many resources as possible for their own ego.

Troonism is a side-effect of the emptiness of modern life. We tell everyone that they're special, that they're unique and then they just assume that. Its part of raising kids without the harshness of life. I'm not talking beating the shit out of them or belittling them, but they have to know that in life, there are winners and losers and you have to figure out what you are best at. Not everyone can be A students, not everyone can be doctors, but you can be the best fucking HVAC repair man on the block and that is actually worth something. Or a great composer or artist or carpenter. The problem is we set these unrealistic expectations and it just grows into this ball of neuroses. They don't have anything special about them. They can't create art. They're not particularly good at anything. So the only thing they have left are their gender and their physical appearance. That's what they use to define themselves as, and as time went on, this dichotomy of gender and appearance grew and grew and grew until it metastasized into something that basically nobody could predict.

Transsexuals were never a big population throughout history, though they did exist. Nowhere near the numbers now, and they never appealed to authority. They were just very damaged people trying to figure out where they fit into society. Generally they stayed under the radar, even through the gay rights movement. The only time they were put on the pedestal is when gay marriage was conquered and the LGBT movement needed another cause celebare and for some reason it chose trans bathrooms. Then every liberal progressive hitched their wagon to it, and their ideology got more and more permissive, until AGPs, vulnerable people going through identity crises and children just jumped in because of the privileges they got.

Literally the only reason transsexuals are supported by corporations and liberal progressives is because all they do is appeal to authority. Everything and anything they have is because authority hands it to them. This in turn allows the decaying system of late-stage capitalism to be propped up. And it uses them as a weapon to attack its enemies trying to tear down these systems. I'm not saying every movement for gay rights propped up a decaying system, they didn't. Many movements forced change. But the movements we see today are only about appealing to authority, not actually stripping down systems. And this actually gives authority more power and reinforces these dying systems. If it were neo-nazis that did this, they'd support neo-nazis. They have absolutely no moral compass and no belief system. They support the current zeitgeist because it supports their comforts and the system they want to prop up. One example of this is Stephen Colbert mocking liberal progressives that went with Occupy Wallstreet with the progressive stack and the like and the jazz hands. Now he is all about that liberal progressivism. Because it is now the 'in thing' and to have a career in Hollywood you have to believe that. Not because times have changed. Not because history is marching forward. That progress is an illusion. There's no such thing. It is simply a shield that the elites use to hide their excesses and a cudgel to strike down anyone who dares criticize them.

Its why Adidas can run ads for BLM featuring little kids running around, but has kids those same ages working in death factories making their products. Its why Apple can promote green technology while making a phone that is obsolete after one year, causing more electronic waste in 365 days than in the previous 100 years. The amount of human misery these people create is unparalleled. The world has shrunk, but it is still big enough that we can look away from their crimes half-way across the world and not even think about them. Its how Raytheon can put up a gay pride flag and promote diversity while blowing people apart and fueling hatred of the west for hundreds of years to come. Its how the CIA can laughably make a diverse LGBT recruiting push while promoting some of the most homophobic, destructive and deadly regimes in human history. The CIA is responsible for more death and destruction without purpose than I can even count. The promotion of the current zeitgeist hides their crimes and their inhumanity, because people don't want to look. They don't want to be on the 'wrong side of history'. They don't want that cudgel coming for them. And it feels so, so good to wield it against other people.

Its all about this:

"One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?"

Winston thought. "By making him suffer," he said.

'Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery is torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain....But always -- do not forget this, Winston -- always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever.'

Imagine you are a billionaire and your major opponents are just focusing on class. You can hit them with every cudgel you promote: racism, misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, even random shit you just made up. Now your opponents are thoroughly discredited and destroyed. You can target their income, their jobs, their reputation. The focus on all of these topics is not to resolve any of them. The focus on pronouns and LGBT in media is just bread and circuses. It is to maintain the status quo as a weapon against its enemies. Those that would try to destroy the machinery of late-stage capitalism will be beaten with it.

Make no mistake, you're wrong if this is a socialist or communist endeavor. Those purport to have the good of humanity at its core. The elites have no interest in anyone's good but their own. They believe they are more intelligent than everyone else because they have money. This is an entirely vulture capitalist endeavor to pick whatever meat is left on the bones of the poor and middle class. This is not socialism. This is not communism. It is the work of capitalism and private industry. There is no long term planning here. There are only idiots who think they are smarter than they are because they have money or played the market just right or were in the right place at the right time or born into it.

And just like throughout history, the elites who think they are smarter than they are will push this system to the brink until it eventually decays and collapses in on itself, taking them and everyone with them. Its happened a thousand times before, every elite reigning on top thought they were smarter than history. That they were smarter than those who came before them. And that "Surely, we will preserve this system that enriches myself and impoverishes everyone. My comfort will always be maintained." Eventually you can't get infinite growth, you can't get blood from a stone and people will eventually have enough. And then everything comes tumbling down. When this happens, there will be no introspection, no self assessment. The technocrats will blame the masses for not accepting their 'enlightened philosophy'. Even as they're choking and dying on the remnants of the very system they created, fostered and defended from all change. Maybe we'll be lucky enough to see our modern elites cry like Robespierre on their way to their metaphorical guillotine as everything around us is destroyed. And then from the ashes, we'll rebuild the system. And it'll be better for a time.

Then we'll just think, "My comfort will be eternally maintained. I am smarter than those that came before me." And we'll all go through this again.
 
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Glowie

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Do you know what links all those things?
Millenials and zoomers screaming how well socialism works.
Furfags, debt slaves, college students and every single fag screaming Marxist bullshit like BLM/ACAB and critical theory offshoots. Making mediocrity acceptable and tolerating it.
Social engineering from cradle to grave Huxley's brave new world isn't fiction it's a prophecy
 

Yuri_

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They've done nothing but crank immigration up further and further, so I'm not sure why people think that the elites want depopulation. Similarly, higher consumption will naturally come with a larger population, so they also don't actually seem to care about that.

Europe has gone full open borders mode since 2015. USA has let in god knows how many millions of illegals in this year alone. The leader of my home state in Australia has recently said that he wants 2 million people to come into NSW in the next few years (which is a massive increase in immigration compared to our normal levels). Bezos himself said that he wants a trillion humans in the solar system, because then there would be 1000 einsteins, 1000 mozarts, etc (and DEFINITELY not because there would be a trillion potential consoomers shopping on amazon)

If you actually wanted to stop population growth, you would prevent people from high birthrate countries from spreading elsewhere. The problem would solve itself within a generation or two.

If there's a plan for actual population control, I haven't come across it.