The Great Porn Debate - The Coomites vs Anti-Faparians

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Lemmingwise

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You see the same time and time again in history in regards to prostitution. Take for example japan occupied by the US. In order to curb rape by US soldiers, the japanese decided to open brothels for US troops. Japanese women who worked these could tell themselves they were protecting other women from rape. Rape numbers dropped considerably (coincidently disproving the feminist myth that rape is about power, not sex, but I don't think anyone here was under that delusion).

Really? Why?
Because if it was about power, rape would increase or decrease based on the amount of power people had. But it increases and decreases on the amount of sex they had.
 

Groon

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In the current sticky by Null, he says that "pornography makes you socially retarded and exposes you to strange fetishes, which is why all trannies are pornography addicts".

What if the reverse is true: people who are socially retarded resort to porn because they can't get laid? And those who are attracted to the strange fetishes is because they're mentally messed up to start with?

Well, a little socially retarded guy could see his state aggravated by sick porn. Also the little mentally messed paraphilic.
 

SSj_Ness

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I'm not for banning it outright as that can be a slippery slope. However, greatly limiting its ease of access is important. It doesn't have (m?)any positive effects on society, but there's measurable negative effects. Just like smoking/drugs/booze, I think it should be legal but restricted.
 

The Demon Pimp of Razgriz

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I'm not for banning it outright as that can be a slippery slope. However, greatly limiting its ease of access is important. It doesn't have (m?)any positive effects on society, but there's measurable negative effects. Just like smoking/drugs/booze, I think it should be legal but restricted.
Not sure how "restricting" it would be any less of a slippery slope than banning it, nor how that would even be possible with the power of the internet and issue of running into constitutional questions.
 

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Porn is one of those issues I really don’t know what to think about. Realistically speaking, it would be impossible to ban it (and even unhealthy to some degree). On the other hand, it’s a market that desperately needs to be regulated because its widespread presence is having catastrophic consequences.
 

emptyblu

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Why is the woke crew so defensive over porn? I thought the male gaze was evil? They need to stop watching porn and cover up any sexy women present in order to cleanse themselves from their sins.

But in all seriousness I don’t get it? Ok so sexy women in media are bad, but sexy women doing porn isn’t bad? Can someone explain to me why the latter is ok but the first one is offensive?
 
The debate about obscenity, pornography, and its relations to notions of free speech probably goes back to the first dirty drawings on cave walls. Recently within online right wing circles, there has become a strong movement to support the banning pornography, specifically internet pornography, or at the very least greatly limit its ease of access. But even in scenes where the word "Degenerate" fills the same function as "Bigot" among liberals, this notion of banning porn or placing stricter regulations is not without critics. The most common criticism is the potential to violate rights relating to freedom of speech. Another common argument is the possibility of anti-porn legislation being used as cover for more draconian internet censorship.

Andrew Torba, who runs Gab, a twitter alternative who's main selling point is its commitment to free speech, recently announced that all pornography would be banned from Gab, and has gone a days long tirade on twitter about how pornography is bad, is not free speech, and does not go against Gab's core commitment to freespeech. This spergout is what promoted this thread, as Torba is not without support, at least on the position at large.

Here are the rough Bullet Points for both cases

Anti-Porn
  • Porn is addictive
  • Porn hurts sexual and mental health
  • Porn damages relationships
  • It is not free speech, and should not be protected as such
  • Parents are unable to effectively combat porn's encroachment due to pervasive internet access, and need legislative assistance
  • It goes against religious and spiritual dictatum
Anti-Porn Ban/Regulations
  • Banning porn would just create an unregulated black market, like with drugs and CP
  • Pornographic materials can be considered forms of free expression and speech
  • People should be free to decide what to and not to consume
  • Pornography is produced by consenting adult/s with consenting buyers/consumers
  • More push of big government into people's lives
  • Regulations against porn would just be used as a tool of censorship outside of its anti-coomer scope
  • Parents should be responsible for parenting their own children, and not rely on government to do their job for them
I'm holding back my own opinion, in hopes of getting a shitshow discussion going on the issue, and so Torba's thread won't dissolve more into Pro and Anti coomer rhetoric. So please, feel more than free to freely express your opinion on the matter. Just don't flash a titty if you do.
Don't try to frame the argument.

Either you want infinite fake women or a few real women?

The people have voted. Infinite fake wins.
 
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