The mental illness epidemic - Why is everyone losing their minds?

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

It's a talking point in the gun control narrative, mental health, mental illness bla bla bla. And really, you have to be a little crazy to even think about killing an ass load of people.

So why is there such a mental health crisis? It's got to be more than just lack of care.

 

[Draza]

Shut down of mental care hospitals during the 80's.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

Because “common sense” has devolved into “extraordinarily-rare sense”.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

And it's not just shooting up schools either that this is manefiting as, there's a suicide epidemic as well.

Something about life is just driving people insane.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

And it's not just shooting up schools either that this is manefiting as, there's a suicide epidemic as well.

Something about life is just driving people insane.

It’s Cthulhu. He’s finally awakening in R’lyeh!!!! Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!!!!

 

[Rand /pol/]

Lack of support structure, fewer Churches and other groups giving support, etc.

 

[Sammy]

And it's not just shooting up schools either that this is manefiting [sic] as, there's a suicide epidemic as well.

Something about life is just driving people insane.

Where have you seen anything about a suicide epidemic?
Everything else I've seen you mention has had some reporting on except that.
Just kinda curious to see whats being said.

 

[Desire Lines]

Mental illnesses are becoming more accepted; which is fine, to an extent. But that's the thing: TO AN EXTENT. If you have a minor mental illness and you take your pills, go to your psychiatrist etc. people won't call you a freak of nature, like it used to be in the old times. That's good. The problem arises when you realize that the number of mental illnesses considered "minor" is beginning to increase, and people don't want to treat them anymore because they make them into a fashion accessory, a part of their identity. I blame the "acceptance uwu" culture that's happening. These people should really snap to reality and realize that they're hurting everyone else.

 

[Bassomatic]

Shut down of mental care hospitals during the 80's.

This is part, it's a multi angle issue though.

It’s Cthulhu. He’s finally awakening in R’lyeh!!!! Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!!!!

I hate how I rated this optimistic, shows my hope for the future.

Ok, we are going to get a bit long, as mentioned before I agree shut down of the mental wards is a big thing, long term care/treatment is the only option for many people, there are people who need that could do as well as possible and be less a drain on society with that. But now it's cut for a lot of reasons some good, some bad.

Short term holds are spinning doors for many people who need long term placement, they go in 10-90 days stroll out and back in there or jail in a week or so. Group homes just aren't a thing anymore due to costs, some people are stuck in short term places in my state for 6+ months.. you might have to wait for some mentally handicapped person to pass away before you get into a group home.

Culture is the other big thing, two fold one we are exposed to things at break neck speed and humans really don't decompress soak in things as fast as we get it. This is just a theory of mine, the second as mentioned as we are forced to diversify, we are hiding out, those people don't act like us, look like us or hold same values but we aren't allowed to even interact with them with out risk socially so we all hide on netflix. Churches etc are losing out because of this, it's not as much the aspect of higher powers it's that was a huge part of humans social time historically speaking.

The other thing, we over think our abilities, we humans are really starting to see on many aspects mental health effects of our behavior. A person who has depression, is more likely to drink, more likely to drive drunk as they drink to much, now it's not a justification, not at all. Too many people turn it into that and hand wave bad behavior. If being beat as a kid forced you or made you on a path to be destructive we humans wouldn't have made it to the stage we had fire lol.

So we are also trying to understand (and erred in victim hood imho) the balance of our free actions vs things we're pushed too. We also now know, some mental illness is genetic and puts you on a dark path even with help or spotting early.

Healthcare being a mess in the western world esp in the mental sense isn't helping either. People often won't get treatment who can due to fear of backlash in the US we have HIPPA laws but ask around I can say I've seen it snuck around, crafty people do and fire your ass for being "crazy" I'm sure you know someone who has had it happen to them or someone close. Same goes with other illnesses.

Lastly, it's a culture more than anything, we have better options for treatment for many people and choose quick fixes, like oh here gobble some SSRIs it's ok Daddy made you his hand puppet for the first 6 years of your life.

So tl;dr
It's a perfect storm of fucked, but it could always be worse.

 

[Benine Bovine]

I think it has to do with stagnating wages, economic issues and the internet providing a very broad perspective where you can easily get overwhelmed with bad news and never really log off, the world becoming smaller in a sense and the expectation to constantly be available combined with feeing like the world is constantly going to shit can at least cause depression, people are also less social and less outdoors, and many people dont feel meaning in their work because its divided in a sense that a lot of the time you dont really see reap the fruits of your labor with the feeling that you have actually contributed to society in a way that the reptile/monkey brain sends reward signals for

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

Where have you seen anything about a suicide epidemic?
Everything else I've seen you mention has had some reporting on except that.
Just kinda curious to see whats being said.

Yeah, here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._epidemic_social_economic_or_both_134488.html

>U.S. suicide rates have surged to a 30-year high, and it's not just among struggling middle-aged whites. Suicides by girls age 10 to 14 have spiked over the last 18 years. And there's been a shocking surge in children 17 or under dying from self-inflicted gunshot wounds.

>Since 1999, suicide rates have risen in every age group except the elderly, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Among women 45 to 64 it jumped an astounding 63 percent. For men that age, it was up 43 percent.

 

[escapegoat]

Something about life is just driving people insane.

Yup.

We aren't supposed to live like this, staring at screens all day, attempting to be "citizens" on such a wide, wide scale.

 

[Bassomatic]

Yup.

We aren't supposed to live like this, staring at screens all day, attempting to be "citizens" on such a wide, wide scale.

Eh, historically speaking, there's always been that conversation.

 

[escapegoat]

I guess if you think of the last 50/60 years as "always?"

 

[CIA Nigger]

Kids became smartphone addicts and got depressed from the lack of social interaction. The internet too has also been an enabler of mental illness, now any nutcase with a laptop and camera, or even just a smartphone can feel like they're on TV and in front of the world, and will do stupid shit for attention.

And then you have tech companies who just like big pharma don't see the consequences of their bad choices, and only see more dollar signs. Smartwatches and "smart speakers" are a thing now and furthermore you have car companies trying to shove as many internet connected tech in cars as possible, despite you know hackers showing that that is in fact a terrible idea.

 

[Bassomatic]

I guess if you think of the last 50/60 years as "always?"

I don't have my books handy, but if you can take my good word till I can edit the greeks stressed this stuff.
I mean the life style, clearly not the tech in life part.

 

[escapegoat]

We are increasingly engaged with a pseudo-reality. Virtual selves in simulations of lives. And the image on the screen is so much easier and prettier than the real thing, that we want the unreal to be real. It's not, and it cannot be. So, basically, we're all trapped between genuinely needing to live in meatspace, so our monkey brains don't misfire, but far preferring the lazy ease and spectacle of the unreal. That is pretty much a recipe for depression and dissociation.

I don't have my books handy, but if you can take my good word till I can edit the greeks stressed this stuff.

You've got the warnings about democracy as part of a vicious cycle in Republic.

 

[AF 802]

The treatments and methods of treating mental illness in many areas is just so goddamn poor, it doesn't help. A lot of these psychiatric care places have just about the worst kind of help you can find, and what they do have, they usually over-medicate you, or just don't do anything that actually helps.

 

[escapegoat]

A lot of the time you get treatment that doesn't help, because, for real, there isn't any "treatment" that will help. Oftentimes the condition is not technically even a real thing--it's a collection of symptoms that get clustered together for billing code purposes. I am not even kidding. Look up the history of the DSM--the DSM develops alongside the HMO industry. There are a lot of psych meds where researchers have absolutely no idea why they work. Or even if they work. Which is how we end up with anti-depressants that increase the likelihood of suicide.

 

[The Colonel]

I blame the internet.