The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end

Piga Dgrifm

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When I first found his videos, I thought he was playing a character, like how James Rolfe pretends to have over the top tantrums at old vidya games. Then I realized Enter was being genuine in his reactions.

Anyway, his rant on Twitter is out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf1shMwwU_U

And another bland OC:
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Angry

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When I first found his videos, I thought he was playing a character, like how James Rolfe pretends to have over the top tantrums at old vidya games. Then I realized Enter was being genuine in his reactions.
This was the case for me, too. The first video I saw of his was the one about how Patrick was secretly an asshole. I legitimately thought it was a pretty funny joke list. It wasn't until a few videos later that I realized he legitimately thought Patrick was an asshole and was listing evidence for it.
 

mooo

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Never unstestood the hate for this guy besides Growing Around, Latest Technocracy video was really on point.
His thoughts on politics and society usually aren't offensive, even if they can be underdeveloped. It's everything else about his videos that make him so detestable. First off he has the most grating voice out of any other longstanding youtuber. He sounds like a fat balding middle school teacher who hates his life and takes it out by sounding as condescending to everyone as possible. Worse yet, he fails to rerecord bad takes. Then comes the content of 90% of his videos, which is just whining because he didn't understand a joke or thinks a show isn't suitable for overly sensitive kindergarteners. Often he'll get hung up on a harmless 5 second scene for over a minute. He calls so many things the worst thing ever and acts as if narratives have cut and dry rules that should never be broken unless he's writing the script. I swear the last 5 or 6 videos I watched, he mentions a show breaking "the number one rule for [genre]." When he's not autistically combing through moments only soccer moms would find offensive, he's incredibly vague. Other reviewers will often categorically review in depth the characters, setting, plot, visuals and so on and take care to note how well or badly these things work together, whereas Mr. Enter will usually just say they're all bad because they're mean, it doesn't work in his mind, or isn't funny to him. He hardly seems to be qualified to review fiction because he takes every show at face value and complains if something isn't how it would work in reality and as if every character's purpose was to impose a rigid sense of poor morals onto the audience. I don't know how anybody could bother to unironically watch him lately, because he just goes after low hanging fruit like Norm of the North like we don't all know that's bad and don't have a dozen other reviewers who reviewed it better.

That said, he once said on stream that he's playing a character when he does his reviews, so I guess you can't get mad at him personally. Rather, it's his idea of an entertaining review show that's disappointing.
 

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Tbh, these days John Enter is more pathetic than “hatable” these days, he REALLY wants his cartoon fully realized, but refuses to actually learn how to improve himself. He’ll just keep spinning in circles for eternity until he either gives up or changes his approach
 
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OmnipotentStupidity

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That said, he once said on stream that he's playing a character when he does his reviews, so I guess you can't get mad at him personally. Rather, it's his idea of an entertaining review show that's disappointing.
I will never understand why YouTubers who constantly find themselves in the pit of controversy and pure unbridled autism will immediately use the excuse that "I'm just playing a a character/I'm just doing a bit, it's not like I'm actually like that in real life".

There's a couple things wrong with this:

1. It's the Internet: all people have to go off of when it comes to judging people is whatever the individual in question decides to put out there. If you're playing a character 95% of the time with no tell as to where the character ends and where the "real you" begins, then people are going to see that as who you actually are. Why wouldn't they? If you act that way 24/7, on your social media or otherwise, it might as well be the "real you" to others. That's all you present yourself as. If you're going to use that excuse for basic social interaction, then expect people to think that's how you are.

And 2. If you are doing a bit, and people obviously don't like the bit, they won't ever just cut the characters and be more personable and approachable. No no, they double down as hard as they can, and make that character present in every facet of their work. This then wraps back around to #1, and then back to #2, and so on.

It's like a Gordian knot of exceptionalism that can easily be cut, but they never see fit to cut it when it goes too far. Like say, oh I dunno, having your "character" harass one of the writers of SpongeBob on Twitter; something like that.
 

mooo

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I will never understand why YouTubers who constantly find themselves in the pit of controversy and pure unbridled autism will immediately use the excuse that "I'm just playing a a character/I'm just doing a bit, it's not like I'm actually like that in real life".

There's a couple things wrong with this:

1. It's the Internet: all people have to go off of when it comes to judging people is whatever the individual in question decides to put out there. If you're playing a character 95% of the time with no tell as to where the character ends and where the "real you" begins, then people are going to see that as who you actually are. Why wouldn't they? If you act that way 24/7, on your social media or otherwise, it might as well be the "real you" to others. That's all you present yourself as. If you're going to use that excuse for basic social interaction, then expect people to think that's how you are.

And 2. If you are doing a bit, and people obviously don't like the bit, they won't ever just cut the characters and be more personable and approachable. No no, they double down as hard as they can, and make that character present in every facet of their work. This then wraps back around to #1, and then back to #2, and so on.

It's like a Gordian knot of exceptionalism that can easily be cut, but they never see fit to cut it when it goes too far. Like say, oh I dunno, having your "character" harass one of the writers of SpongeBob on Twitter; something like that.
Yeah but the "angry reviewer" shtick is low effort and gets a lot of kids who don't know any better to watch your videos. I believe there's some truth in him stating he's only playing a character, but I think that's partially just an excuse. In some of his streams and a couple other videos he's actually chill as fuck and even a little self aware. So I think he plays up his anger when he does his reviews but he probably still actually thinks his criticisms are valid.
 

LiquidKid

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I don't think anyone here really hates him, we just think his delusions about Growing Around's quality are funny to watch.
I never hated him, hating someone on the Internet is spergy. I think he’s funny because he’s exceptional as fuck and never improves at anything he attempts to do, but feels that he’s somehow qualified to be a critic in any fashion.
And growing around is even more exceptional than those monotonous rants he calls reviews. He’s a fascinating person to watch, he’s a walking dumpster fire in many ways
 

mooo

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I'm reading the script for Childhood's End Part 2 and came across this line. It feels so out of place and random despite the episode being about them being in a simulation.
[Robert debates on what to say for a beat. A patron sitting at the counter looks over to Robert. He's wearing a dark outfit and a top hat. Perhaps it could be a Matrix reference. Have him look like Agent Smith.]
Then nothing happens. I don't know why this line is even here.
 

Watcher

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I will never understand why YouTubers who constantly find themselves in the pit of controversy and pure unbridled autism will immediately use the excuse that "I'm just playing a a character/I'm just doing a bit, it's not like I'm actually like that in real life".
As someone who's made content and worked in theater I'll touch on this. When you create things for an audience you generally have to exaggerate yourself to a certain extent. This is usually to make yourself more comedic or more engaging to other people. However you always perceive this aspect of yourself as separate from who you are normally. It's something you have to "turn on" as it were. I've read a book on how to do this in the past.

A really good example of this is when Beyonce was initially performing music she created this alter ego named "Sasha Fierce" as a way of convincing herself to do more suggestive dances and more scandalous lyrics. This was because prior to this she primarily sung in a church coir. A lot of musicians did this actually, like David Bowie was so famous for doing this that he created an entire song about him.

At the same time this persona isn't something actually separate. It's not a "character" outside of you. It's also not something that makes you above criticism. You're still allowed to criticize the performance which is something some people like Enter don't get. It's having your cake and eating it too. This is one advantage of having an alter ego in that you can detach yourself from criticism and not take it personally, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't still listen to it.
 

Piga Dgrifm

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I'm reading the script for Childhood's End Part 2 and came across this line. It feels so out of place and random despite the episode being about them being in a simulation.

Then nothing happens. I don't know why this line is even here.
I guess the joke is just supposed to be "The Matrix is a movie that exists."
 

mooo

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Finished reading all 3 parts of Childhood's End and I'm just blown away at how awful it's been. It dares to ask the question "What happens when adults rise up?" and answers with "Nothing, because that's what the writer wants." The basic plot is that Shane convinces Autumn to put herself and her family in a VR simulation of a world where adults rule because Autumn is tired of being treated like shit by kids. It gets incredibly preachy and strawman-y with Sally suffering humiliation from strict adults. In the end, one of Sally's new AI friends tackles a hologram of Shane which frees them from the simulation. The Dunns wake up and kick Shane's ass then go home and return to status quo. Why didn't Shane restrain them or just kill them while he had them there? He acts like he'll kill Sally if Robert doesn't do what he wants anyway. Why does Autumn just accept a subservient role in the end? Sally never learns her lesson about how shit she treats her.

I'm just left wondering "Why does this even exist?" There's just no point in any of it. Anyway, here are some parts I thought were noteworthy:

Sally gets in a fight with a bully but Enter is too afraid to show her getting punched on screen so nothing happens.
The bully suddenly allies with Sally in the end for no reason.
After escaping the simulation, Sally says she's not leaving Gumdrops's side for a long time then IMMEDIATELY leaves his side.
Sally says she doesn't forgive Autumn for what she did, then says she does forgive her like 20 seconds later after nothing has changed.
Sally states the moral, which is to not do things out of spite. Ironic because that's what Growing Around is.
The climax was overly melodramatic and could have been resolved by Autumn saying "Sorry, I didn't know this would happen."
Max is stated to have been tortured worse than Sally but we are never shown this. In fact Max is basically absent the whole time.
Shane's speaking tone throughout the whole thing is condescending to annoying levels.
The Dunns basically state that the scouts are too incompetent to arrest Shane despite having a whole lab of evidence and a knocked out Shane sitting by them. Instead they say that when Sally becomes mayor she can personally legally dish out any punishment on him with no evidence or trial or anything.
 
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LiquidKid

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I'm reading the script for Childhood's End Part 2 and came across this line. It feels so out of place and random despite the episode being about them being in a simulation.

Then nothing happens. I don't know why this line is even here.
I really want to know why he thinks the term “beat” exists in screenwriting, and what he thinks it means. All you have to say is “Robert pauses.” What’s bizarre about the matrix outfit thing is that, while specific outfits can be mentioned in screenplays if they are vital in some way to the character(ex.the speed racer shirt in pulp fiction is actually mentioned in the script) and a character looking like a other can also be added, these things are usually decided by the animation staff and the storyboarder, not the writer. In fact, most pop culture sight gags are from storboarders trying to have fun with what is ultimately a very dull job
 

OmnipotentStupidity

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Finished reading all 3 parts of Childhood's End and I'm just blown away at how awful it's been. It dares to ask the question "What happens when adults rise up?" and answers with "Nothing, because that's what the writer wants." The basic plot is that Shane convinces Autumn to put herself and her family in a VR simulation of a world where adults rule because Autumn is tired of being treated like shit by kids. It gets incredibly preachy and strawman-y with Sally suffering humiliation from strict adults. In the end, one of Sally's new AI friends tackles a hologram of Shane which frees them from the simulation. The Dunns wake up and kick Shane's ass then go home and return to status quo. Why didn't Shane restrain them or just kill them while he had them there? He acts like he'll kill Sally if Robert doesn't do what he wants anyway. Why does Autumn just accept a subservient role in the end? Sally never learns her lesson about how shit she treats her.

I'm just left wondering "Why does this even exist?" There's just no point in any of it. Anyway, here are some parts I thought were noteworthy:

Sally gets in a fight with a bully but Enter is too afraid to show her getting punched on screen so nothing happens.
The bully suddenly allies with Sally in the end for no reason.
After escaping the simulation, Sally says she's not leaving Gumdrops's side for a long time then IMMEDIATELY leaves his side.
Sally says she doesn't forgive Autumn for what she did, then says she does forgive her like 20 seconds later after nothing has changed.
Sally states the moral, which is to not do things out of spite. Ironic because that's what Growing Around is.
The climax was overly melodramatic and could have been resolved by Autumn saying "Sorry, I didn't know this would happen."
Max is stated to have been tortured worse than Sally but we are never shown this. In fact Max is basically absent the whole time.
Shane's speaking tone throughout the whole thing is condescending to annoying levels.
The Dunns basically state that the scouts are too incompetent to arrest Shane despite having a whole lab of evidence and a knocked out Shane sitting by them. Instead they say that when Sally becomes mayor she can personally legally dish out any punishment on him with no evidence or trial or anything.
If Enter's trying to make this show's world feel less like a dystopian nightmare when compared to the real world, it isn't working.
 

LiquidKid

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If Enter's trying to make this show's world feel less like a dystopian nightmare when compared to the real world, it isn't working.
I think he wanted to make his own version of the Power Puff Girl’s episode where they go to Citiesville. An episode he hated(coincidentally, the only episode of that entire series I think is remotely watchable). He probably thought he could do reality better, but he’s never been in reality so obviously that wouldn’t work. He may really think out world is a dystopia
 

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