The Origins of the Woke Left - OP is a faggot

[Cope or Rope]

The woke left simply was a movement to distract Occupy wallstreet. Notice how they went away. From what i know (Sourced from /pol/) the alphabet agencies started sending the tumblr art hoes to occupy wall street and they just eventually hijacked it. the left died with Occupy wallstreet, now from focusing on economics they almost exclusively focus on wokenes.. Identitiy politics are an easy way to keep economic issues being addressed.

 

[Emperor Julian]

I think part of it is the easyness of it emotionally and intellectually. Economic and social problems are complex and abstract , some preachy stunt gives you a cheap pop. Conservatives do the same shit with their trigger the libs bullshit or the way they've wasted 20+ years on the homo's, abortions and jebus. Anything to avoid looking at the deeper social issues and seeing what overtly doesnt work as a society.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

I think part of it is the easyness of it emotionally and intellectually. Economic and social problems are complex and abstract , some preachy stunt gives you a cheap pop. Conservatives do the same shit with their trigger the libs bullshit or the way they've wasted 20+ years on the homo's, abortions and jebus. Anything to avoid looking at the deeper social issues and seeing what overtly doesnt work as a society.

Think you might misunderstand what conservatism is about.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Think you might misunderstand what conservatism is about.

I don't really think it's about anything at all these days. The only reason I consider the woke left a bigger joke is that it's electorate poison.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

I don't really think it's about anything at all these days. The only reason I consider the woke left a bigger joke is that it's electorate poison.

No, conservatism is about something, it's just the people who profess to be conservatives aren't really espousing conservative values.

and woke -ism is not just electoral poison, it humanity poison.

 

[Emperor Julian]

No, conservatism is about something, it's just the people who profess to be conservatives aren't really espousing conservative values.

and woke -ism is not just electoral poison, it humanity poison.

Conservatism is ultimately a hollowed out corpse paraded around by corporate shills. It used to be a stabilizing moderating force allowing for the nations to be protected and developed while continuing to evolve for example peel and disraeli's uk administation, now it's mostly just a front for entropy and corporate shilling. the only thing really holding it together is siege mentality vs groups like the woke left and just enough true believers to keep it from imploding. It's a situation remarkably similar to the left really.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Conservatism is ultimately a hollowed out corpse paraded around by corporate shills. It used to be a stabilizing moderating force allowing for the nations to be protected and developed while continuing to evolve, now it's mostly just a front for entropy and corporate shilling. the only thing really holding it together is siege mentality vs groups like the woke left and just enough true believers to keep it from imploding. It's a situation remarkably similar to the left really.

I disagree, conservatism is hard and promises no utopia.

Paul Mooney did a bit on why Hollywood likes newage spirituality instead of Christianity. the latter is about NOT doing things, and new age shit is about doing what you feel like.

 

[Fougaro]

The origin of "woke" culture, the Ess Jay Dubyas or whatever you want to call it, is just a natural development of the belief in equality combined with the fact that the majority of people are complex-ridden, envious and resentful dipshits that want to be taken care of instead of being proper adults. That's all there is to it.

 

[Parallel Moon]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Racefail 09 thing. I've seen several people both woke and not say it was one of the origin points for the wokeness movement. When livejournal died they all went to tumblr and instead of arguing with each other in smaller closed groups everyone's posts full of woke was available to see for all the 14 year olds on tumblr who were obsessed Harry Potter or whatever.

I definitely think Racefail affected the science fiction and fantasy genre as far as mainstream publishing goes.

 

[Odnovo]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Racefail 09 thing. I've seen several people both woke and not say it was one of the origin points for the wokeness movement. When livejournal died they all went to tumblr and instead of arguing with each other in smaller closed groups everyone's posts full of woke was available to see for all the 14 year olds on tumblr who were obsessed Harry Potter or whatever.

I definitely think Racefail affected the science fiction and fantasy genre as far as mainstream publishing goes.

An interesting personal anecdote is that I had first encountered the woke idiocy on livejournal in early 2012, long after the site was no longer popular with the youth. It was very odd because before then, I had never encountered anything like it prior to that.

 

[Parallel Moon]

An interesting personal anecdote is that I had first encountered the woke idiocy on livejournal in early 2012, long after the site was no longer popular with the youth. It was very odd because before then, I had never encountered anything like it prior to that.

Yeah I first encountered woke in about 2011 on tumblr. Which was not that long after so many people had migrated from Livejournal.

 

[Łimønča]

Contemporary radlibs can trace their philosophical roots to the 1968 Movement.

 

[StraightShooter2]

"Woke left" is just another buzzword which has been done to death on social media, much like "feminist, SJW", and lots of other popular buzzwords..

Most likely, Michel Foucalt and Jaques Derrida (so-called founders of "postmodernism") are the thinkers most responsible for giving birth to the contemporary radical left (as well as older thinkers such as Denis Diderot, and Karl Marx, and the so-called "Frankfurt School of Marxism" which deviated from his ideas).

There are also "radical" feminists such as Andrea Dworkin, and Saul Alinsky and his manifesto "Rules for Radicals" may have been influential in terms of radical activist methodology as well.

So depending on how far-back you go - you could go as far back as the post-French Revolution era, or the "radical / hippie" subcultures of the 60s.

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And as far as "radical right", I'm not so sure - I've heard that Julius Evola was a radical or "reactionary" thinker who is considered influential to fascism (he might have been to Hitler and Mussolini what Marx was to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc).

 

[Łimønča]

And as far as "radical right", I'm not so sure - I've heard that Julius Evola was a radical or "reactionary" thinker who is considered influential to fascism (he might have been to Hitler and Mussolini what Marx was to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc).

This is false. Evola was not in any way influential to either Hitler or Mussolini, and Evola often critiqued national socialism and fascism as populist and spiritually devoid.

Evola did however support the SS, as he saw them as an elite spiritual caste that could serve as a vessel for his ideas. Even in this case, the SS never took Evola seriously, and when he visited Germany in the 30's he was placed under investigation by the SS.

As far as the ideological inspirations for fascism are concerned, the most influential proto-fascist was the French writer Georges Sorel; author of Reflections on Violence, member of the Cercle Proudhon study group, and progenitor of revolutionary syndicalism. Another source would be the revisionist socialist elements within the Socialist Party of Italy during First World War, of which Mussolini himself was a member.

The revolutionary syndicalism of Sorel would later morph into the national syndicalism of the early fascist squadristi movement of 1921; often alternatively referred to as 'proletarian nationalism'.