The Punisher Salt - No Fun Allowed as well as No Exploration of the Trauma that Endless War Brings

[Secret Asshole]

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/17...view-netflix-marvel-jon-bernthal-gun-violence

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-marvel-the-punisher-review-20171116-story.html

https://www.wired.com/story/the-punisher-gun-violence/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/entertainment/the-punisher-review/index.html

The CNN reviewer doesn't like slow burn shows, but he's a fucking sped who missed the point and docked it for violence without supporting his viewpoint. And its CNN, so fuck 'em.

This show is already causing massive asshurt on its first day. I do give Polygon credit, the reviewer didn't like it because it didn't go into the MCU all that much (He ignores that all the other Marvel shows are pretty much disconnected as well with just vague references, except in those shows there are superpowers), not for the gun violence. And it actually got the point of the show was about trauma to veterans. So I have to give them props for that at least, unlike all these other whiny faggots.

Expect to see more and more articles lamenting about fake violence, missing the point and disliking it because it doesn't adhere to their politics.

 

[AnOminous]

I just want to see Jonathan Cuckintosh weeping and wailing about it like a pussy.

 

[SomethingWittyandBadass]

Ugh it's a fucking tv show about the one guy in Marvel Universe who has more guns than Taskmaster.What did you honestly expected?

 

[Secret Asshole]

I just want to see Jonathan Cuckintosh weeping and wailing about it like a pussy.

The show is pure testosterone which will overwhelm his feeble brain and send him into seizures.

Ugh it's a fucking tv show about the one guy in Marvel Universe who has more guns than Taskmaster.What did you honestly expected?

For me: This exact reaction.

For them: Stupid as fuck moralists who are currently indistinguishable from any other moralist except it is secularly motivated instead of religiously motivated.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The whole point of the Punisher is the same as Madness Combat, just gimme da bloodbath.

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

I just want to see Jonathan Cuckintosh weeping and wailing about it like a pussy.

Doesn’t he already do that 24/7?

 

[Erwin Blackthorn]

If someone's going to complain about The Punisher for having too much violence, they obviously didn't read the comics the show is based off of. Marvel isn't meant to always be for kids like dead ass Spider-Man Homecoming. I want the show to be like Punisher MAX. Heads bursting from point blank shotgun blasts, dark humor, limbs flying everywhere. Basically like Evil Dead but with the Punisher in place of Ash, or like an episode of Tales From the Crypt, or like Sin City. It's supposed to be a man's show.

I saw the clip of the sledgehammer fight scene and that is exactly what I want in a Punisher show. What makes it all the more hilarious for "news" networks is that they are also angry that it doesn't address gun violence. Fuck my ass, I didn't know that marvel shows were the source of wisdom for recent events, especially since most shows take months to film.

But I can't blame the "news" networks for thinking the way they do. It's not easy learning the amendments of the country they reside in or how unlikely a chainsaw bayonet is to attach to an AR-15. Part of me wants Punisher to use a chainsaw bayonet, just to rub it in the face of fake news. Maybe he'll do just that in season 2.

 

[CatParty]

People salty about this punisher obviously haven’t seen the first two movies.

(War zone was okay tho)

 

[Whatdidyousay?]

i actually like it. The main actor has started to grow on me. Ive always considered him as a side actor however until now. He also did well in "shotcaller" aswell. Turns out he can act pretty well. Suppose after over a decade of acting you better be pretty good at it by now tho

 

[RG 448]

They could have just done a season of Bernthal’s Castle endlessely mudering bad men and I’d have been satisfied, but the theme of war’s effect on people and Frank dealing with trauma that existed well before he lost his family makes it so much more compelling and profound. And he still murders the shit out of bad men. I knew from the first scene that it would rustle jimmies though. Black and white style morality and gun violence being used as a force for good aren’t appreciated in stories these days, and we’ve seen how sjw types feel about soldiers. I’m thrilled a show like this can still exist. The only dissapointment is that it isn’t getting the critical acclaim it deserves.

I do give Polygon credit, the reviewer didn't like it because it didn't go into the MCU all that much

That would have been so distracting.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Have these people ever even heard of The Punisher?

 

[Fareal]

This makes me want to watch the Dolph Lundgren film again

 

[NotoriousD]

I just want to see Jonathan Cuckintosh weeping and wailing about it like a pussy.

Offtopic, but that reminds me of the E3 or similar event where the Doom reboot was shown off, with Anita and Jon tweeting how disgusted they were by the game, how the crowd cheering and chanting on as limbs got ripped from bodies was making them feel sad for humanity, etc, etc. I've never paid Mcintosh much attention but he always struck me as someone who just can't handle testosterone fueled violence.

Ontopic: I have yet to see it, I actually forgot all about it even, but damn I'm hopping on that asap. News outlets be damned, the Punisher is, always has been, and always will be all about violence, guns, and smackdowns. I enjoyed the two live action movies, I enjoyed an old game of it, and I loved the shit out of him in Daredevil.

Anyone complaining about it being too violent or attacking the violence in it for arbitrary reasons is missing the point of the character or a fucking pansy.

 

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Having watched half of it, the series is awesome, it totally gets what the Punisher is about, and never pulls its punches. It's a bit of a slow burn though, so be prepared for that.

Also, The difference between the user score & critics' score in Metacritic is hilarious.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I really expected that. Its exactly like 'The Orville', where critics hate it but viewers love it. And that's all that really matters.

Offtopic, but that reminds me of the E3 or similar event where the Doom reboot was shown off, with Anita and Jon tweeting how disgusted they were by the game, how the crowd cheering and chanting on as limbs got ripped from bodies was making them feel sad for humanity, etc, etc. I've never paid Mcintosh much attention but he always struck me as someone who just can't handle testosterone fueled violence.

Ontopic: I have yet to see it, I actually forgot all about it even, but damn I'm hopping on that asap. News outlets be damned, the Punisher is, always has been, and always will be all about violence, guns, and smackdowns. I enjoyed the two live action movies, I enjoyed an old game of it, and I loved the shit out of him in Daredevil.

Anyone complaining about it being too violent or attacking the violence in it for arbitrary reasons is missing the point of the character or a fucking pansy.

Basically. They intentionally miss the point because they are holier-than-thou moralists who want to ban or censor anything that doesn't agree with their politics. Progtards are in for a rude wake-up call, and its already happening with sites like Buzzfeed and Mashable dropping like a stone in profitability.

Its a great show, but its basically an Ennis comic; it takes awhile to get going.

They could have just done a season of Bernthal’s Castle endlessely mudering bad men and I’d have been satisfied, but the theme of war’s effect on people and Frank dealing with trauma that existed well before he lost his family makes it so much more compelling and profound. And he still murders the shit out of bad men. I knew from the first scene that it would rustle jimmies though. Black and white style morality and gun violence being used as a force for good aren’t appreciated in stories these days, and we’ve seen how sjw types feel about soldiers. I’m thrilled a show like this can still exist. The only dissapointment is that it isn’t getting the critical acclaim it deserves.

That would have been so distracting.

Well, that's how cult classics are made. Its really an amazing series in my opinion, it gets the character, treats the material with respect. Its like Mindhunters slow. And yeah, that dialogue was going to get people salty as fuck, I knew that. They never want to see guns used for 'good' because it 'inspires people to do violence'. No you stupid fucking faggots, you do. Experts have been telling you for years to stop sensationalizing Mass Shooter stories when they occur, yet you always fucking do it for money. They want you to make it bland and uninteresting but you always sex it up and blow off your part of it. Shows are fantasy, people realize this. Reality isn't, and they seek to replicate that. So fuck off with your moralizing, you lost any credibility ages ago. And yeah, they don't give a flying fuck about veterans, soldiers or their issues. So it doesn't appeal. Its really about how Soldiers are used as disposable weapons, how they are thrown away by the government when they come home and their issues are ignored. It treats soldiers with respect, so you know progtards are going to hate it. And it isn't, because not that it isn't politically correct (the cast is pretty diverse but their characters take the stage, not their race. And holy shit the persian actress they hired is hot as fuck) but because it isn't politically aligned with them. And for that they shit on it. I'm honestly really tired of their shit.

And yeah, it would have. It takes away from the Punisher himself. He and the issues surrounding him need to be the center, not some sci-fi shit.

Have these people ever even heard of The Punisher?

They only know 'he shoots bad guys, I know what he's about, its so simple'. But nope. Ennis and other writers made him a complex, intricate character. Basically someone so damaged he can only find peace in endless war. They're fucking speds, 'Oh it should be a commentary on guns!' How about you fuck off. People are tired of having politics injected into everything these days.

 

[Apex Predator]

Hm, Jon Bernthal's pretty hot in a not-pretty way, without being so swole he looks like he'll burst. I'll have to check this out.

What's funny is, one could write a political piece on how anti-violence the show actually is because it shows how trauma leads to a cycle of violence and etc. It's both obvious and would be a cakewalk to write. Shit, now I want to write it. Good luck getting anything that sympathizes with those gross white working class people published, though.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Having watched half of it, the series is awesome, it totally gets what the Punisher is about, and never pulls its punches. It's a bit of a slow burn though, so be prepared for that.

Also, The difference between the user score & critics' score in Metacritic is hilarious.

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Same, look at RT:

94% with 670 user ratings is really impressive.

Hm, Jon Bernthal's pretty hot in a not-pretty way, without being so swole he looks like he'll burst. I'll have to check this out.

What's funny is, one could write a political piece on how anti-violence the show actually is because it shows how trauma leads to a cycle of violence and etc. It's both obvious and would be a cakewalk to write. Shit, now I want to write it. Good luck getting anything that sympathizes with those gross white working class people published, though.

No, he doesn't look like a body builder but he does look fucking strong as hell. And yeah, its an easy write-up as the show really does emphasize cycles of violence, trauma and all that. It really is anti-violence. The problem is that its not in plain sight and anything not simple enough for these tards is bad. And yup, that too. Mostly deals with working-class as heroes pushed down by government and greed. Of course, class doesn't matter to these chucklefucks.

 

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Same, look at RT:

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94% with 670 user ratings is really impressive.



No, he doesn't look like a body builder but he does look fucking strong as hell. And yeah, its an easy write-up as the show really does emphasize cycles of violence, trauma and all that. It really is anti-violence. The problem is that its not in plain sight and anything not simple enough for these tards is bad. And yup, that too. Mostly deals with working-class as heroes pushed down by government and greed. Of course, class doesn't matter to these chucklefucks.

They seem strangely disappointed that a series about a deeply scarred war veteran's brutal war on crime isn't pandering to the left. Like, it's all in the description, fellas.

The series itself poses some very interesting points on veterans, enough for me to consider opening a thread on it in the multimedia forum.

 

[Apex Predator]

No, he doesn't look like a body builder but he does look fucking strong as hell.

Perfecto.

I wonder how much jealousy is behind a lot of the reviews by men. Because when it comes to physicality, the kind of man straight grown women usually like best is... this. Well, without the violent lashing out because of trauma. Which is still a fantasy thing (heal his wounded soul!), but most women know to keep that strictly within fantasy. Not-fantasy is a grown man who looks like a man. Who's strong, not a shiny balloon roast bodybuilder type but simply naturally strong from hard physical work.

 

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Perfecto.

I wonder how much jealousy is behind a lot of the reviews by men. Because when it comes to physicality, the kind of man straight grown women usually like best is... this. Well, without the violent lashing out because of trauma. Which is still a fantasy thing (heal his wounded soul!), but most women know to keep that strictly within fantasy. Not-fantasy is a grown man who looks like a man. Who's strong, not a shiny balloon roast bodybuilder type but simply naturally strong from hard physical work.

It doesn't really sexualize his physicality so far, I am 7 eps in, and he is fully clothed with multiple layers, because he is supposed to be wanted by LEOs.