The situation in East Asia cannot be sustained - Prepare for War

mindlessobserver

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I have increasingly begun to fear the outbreak of a Great Power War in the western Pacific is rapidly becoming inevitable. There are simply too many competing interests and nothing is being done to reduce the danger.

Where to even start. Let's look at all the crisis points.

North Korea
The South China Sea
The Sino-Indian border
Taiwan
Hong Kong
The Senkaku Islands

Just to name a few.

North Korea is constantly threatening to destabilize things and runs the risk of going too far

China claims the territory of other countries in the south china sea solely on the fever dream of Sun Yat Sens retarded 9 dash line he dumped at the Versaille conference in 1919. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

China and India STILL cannot agree on their border, made all the worse by India protecting the exiled Tibetan Government and China trying to surround India with navy bases.

Taiwan remains protected by America and the Allied World War 2 government of China remains a force in being on the island. A constant thorn in the side of the commies. Whose one country two systems policy in Hong Kong that was designed to return Taiwan to the fold lies on ruins.

On the subject of Hong Kong, the one country two systems idea is ending in spectacular failure as Xi Jinping begins to consider ending the charade and putting hong kong under direct rule. An act that would be a flagrant violation of the hand over agreement with the UK.

As if all of this was not enough China also is pressing claims against a series of uninhabited rocks currently administered by Japan. The Senkaku Islands. Because of course they are.

Combine all of this with ongoing trade disputes with America and the arrogant determination of the Chinese to put Australia into its sphere of influence. Now that one is the one thing guaranteed to make America go berserk. Messing with Japan and Taiwan are a stretch and commitments to both stem from world war 2 obligations. Australia though, is a former component of the British Empire and while America has not come out and said it officially, the British Empire never died. It simply moved its capital from London to Washington DC. The Chinese are already playing with fire with North Korea, Japan and Taiwan. Adding Australia to the mix is Chemical X.

It all points to a dismal picture. The west pacific is careening headlong towards war and nobody seems interested in stopping it. In fact the only effort being expended on all sides seems to be aimed at setting themselves up to win the war when it starts. I give it 20 years at the most
 
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Shoggoth

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Compound with Chinese military bases in Afghanistan and Chinese owned ports on every country from Australia, up to China, and all the way to Africa, skipping India.
The fuck can be done at this point?
 

Pixy

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It's not just China, but that's the one everyone reports on.

Pakistan and India are always rearing for a chance to have a go at each other (made worse by the fact Pakistan transports its nukes in vans), and Japan and Korea still have issues with each other regarding WWII and territorial claims.
 

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mindlessobserver

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Compound with Chinese military bases in Afghanistan and Chinese owned ports on every country from Australia, up to China, and all the way to Africa, skipping India.
The fuck can be done at this point?

Which is the rub, isnt it. In the case of Africa you already can see the USA shifting gears. The formation of AFRICOM was in direct response to China's inroads. South Africa has also been demoted from multi racial rainbow propaganda friend by the American ruling elite to a forgotten hellscape. Partially because the rainbow nation has not suddenly discovered racial harmony and more because the ANC decided it wanted to get chummy with China. Another berserk point for America. If South Africa let's China build naval bases the PLAN can gain access to the Atlantic Ocean.

It is no accident then that the United States has begun aggressively courting Kenya and staging more forces in East Africa and Central Africa. All that fighting against Islamists is a fig leaf. The actual reason America is building up its African forces is to deter Chinese expansion and put itself in a position to overthrow south africa the moment shit hits the fan.
 

Marco Fucko

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Nixon really fucked up on that one.


As did Truman earlier.

Realistically speaking it's a touchy situation, MAD and all that. Still, a guy can dream.
 

Arctic Fox

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Any war between the US and China would end in hellfire consuming Beijing.

China is a paper tiger, and does not have the capacity for sustained conflict. The American Empire would dismantle it within a year. Bombs would block out the sun for days before any ground war is even considered.

China's economoy is fragile, and it's already begun outsourcing manufacturing to Africa. It's collapsing far faster than people realize.
 

Syaoran Li

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The only thing thats unsustainable is Us presence in east asia. Your decline will continue and do so rapidly, learn to accept that fact. China will own you soon. Learn your new secondary place amerimutts.

Xi Jinping is a son of a bitch!
He's got the blue balls crabs and the seven-year itch!
 

LazyLizard

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let them, honestly don't see why foreign nations always have to stick their fingers in other countries business and try to decide what they should do. just let them do their own shit whether it's war or peace it's not our problem.
 

HeyYou

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The only thing thats unsustainable is Us presence in east asia. Your decline will continue and do so rapidly, learn to accept that fact. China will own you soon. Learn your new secondary place amerimutts.
I can respect nationalists who shill for their own country. I don't respect Benedicts who shill for another country and hope that they get some of the scraps when push comes to shove.
 

ZeCommissar

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China is not going to openly provoke the US anytime soon. China knows that it cannot win in a conventional war against the US since the US navy would have a field day with the Chinese Navy, and the fact we have so many allies so close to them. China is being smart in the way it's slowly building up it's sphere of influence while hoping the US gets noticeably weaker.

I would urge caution for those that say China will collapse on itself. People have been saying that about the PRC ever since it's foundation, and yet they are the most thriving socialist country on the planet....partially because they aren't economically socialist.

However they will push their limits in the mean time like they have been doing, but as soon as the US gets actually pissed off and starts showing teeth they will actually back off.


let them, honestly don't see why foreign nations always have to stick their fingers in other countries business and try to decide what they should do. just let them do their own shit whether it's war or peace it's not our problem.

Well speaking from an american perspective we do need to protect our allies in the region....well by allies I just mean Japan and Australia since Korea is useless beyond military presence. But we still need to defend S Korea since geopolitics, alliances, and all that. But if China and the street shitters ever go to war (again) I really don't see how that's anyones problem. Hell even if Pakistan and India fling nukes at each other everyone else will probably crap themselves that we have nations in the modern era retarded enough to use nuclear weapons, and then shake their heads at it.
 
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