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I also thought Flagg was black.
Probably because he looked black, for some people, sometimes. Randall Flagg is a character you can't really do justice in a visual medium, because his appearance is always what it needs to be for the people he is dealing with. If he was in a room with a neo-Nazi and a civil rights activist one of them could see him as black and the other as white, depending on the context they know him in.
 

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As if being a Stephen King fan weren't suffering enough:

Deaf Community Members Protest Hearing Actor Playing Deaf Character on 'The Stand': "Enough Is Enough"​

On Thursday, more than 70 signatories issued a statement saying that the casting of a hearing actor to play a Deaf character on the new CBS All Access show is "not acceptable."​

Amid ongoing Hollywood diversity, equity and inclusion efforts, another group is arguing a new series does not reflect these values.

On Thursday, more than 70 signatories issued a statement saying that the casting of a hearing actor to play a Deaf character on the new CBS All Access limited series The Stand is "not acceptable." (Hearing actor Henry Zaga is playing Deaf character Nick Andros in the series.) Signatories include members of the Deaf community including actor Antoinette Abbamonte (The New Normal, Curb Your Entusiasm), director Jules Dameron (Reverse Polarity), actor James Caverly (Chicago Med, A Bennett Song Holiday), actor Dickie Hearts (Tales of the City, Grace & Frankie) and actor Andrew Morrill (who has appeared in theatrical productions Waiting for Godot and Alice in Wonderland), among others.

The letter adds, "We will not endorse, watch, or support your miniseries on CBS All Access. We will share our displeasure of the casting decision and airing of the miniseries on CBS All Access with our Deaf community, signing community, friends, and family of Deaf individuals; together we make up 466 million worldwide."

According to the letter, "not one Deaf professional actor was called in to audition for the role" — a Deaf 22-year-old character in the Stephen King novel upon which the limited series is adapted — and "the decision was made without respect to and for Deaf professionals, union and non-union alike." Talent manager Robert Rossi, who reps Hearts and other Deaf actors, supports this assertion and tells THR in a separate statement, "I was not notified or contacted or aware of the casting of this project. Usually SAG diversity office reaches out directly to me and the diversity casting department at networks. Nobody reached out. It was already a done deal and here is the problem. Multiple deaf/native signers could have authentically portrayed this role."

Signatories and supporters are using the hashtag #StandAgainsttheStand to support the letter. The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to CBS All Access for comment and has learned CBS is meeting with the Deaf artists' community that produced the statement Thursday.

Deaf actor and advocate Nyle DiMarco previously spoke out against the series' casting choice in August 2019, tweeting, "Hollywood takes pride in diversity to ensure representation & authenticity…, BUT CONTINUES TO EXCLUDE people with disabilities." Oprah Magazine reported that month that DiMarco reached out to co-creator Josh Boone about the casting and was "ignored."

The new protest comes amid an ongoing campaign against the ABC series Big Sky, which Indigenous groups have boycotted over the series' lack of recognition of the crisis of missing Native Americans in Montana, where the show, centering on an investigation into a series of disappearances, is set.

Indeed, the letter starts by noting that it is part of an ongoing industry conversation around inclusion: "At the time of diversity and inclusion, this cycle of misrepresentation and unequal or non-existent employment opportunities for Deaf professionals in the entertainment industry, both in front of and behind the camera, must end. This has been happening for decades; enough is enough!" it says.

 

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Here we go. Well speaking of disabilities, maybe they should cast a real incel as Harold to make up for it.:biggrin:

It's ok for Larry to be black now. It's ok toadd that Asian lady that I think is a gender and race swap. But God help us if you make the deaf community mad because Nick's actor is not #samevoice. Or #samesigns I guess. Rob Lowe played Nick in 1994 and he isn't deaf. But back then we were less #woke.

Nick is my favorite character so I hope Henry Zaga does well.

I understand why people are upset over this. But in today's social media checkmark wonderland things just go crazy at the slightest offense then everybody is screeching at once. I just hope it doesn't get popular with the tumblr. I don't think it will unless someone latches onto Joe as an autistic little cinnamon bun.
 

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Probably because he looked black, for some people, sometimes. Randall Flagg is a character you can't really do justice in a visual medium, because his appearance is always what it needs to be for the people he is dealing with. If he was in a room with a neo-Nazi and a civil rights activist one of them could see him as black and the other as white, depending on the context they know him in.
So they should've cast Shaun King?
 

Dysnomia

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Does that mean Tom should be played by a mentally disabled person then?

I didn't even think of that. But funny how no one is screaming that Tom can't be played by someone neurotypical or of average intelligence or whatever term is politically correct for tards talking about non-tards now.

Trash should be played by a mentally unstable homeless person. Frannie should be played by a woman who is actually pregnant. Harold should be played by a real incel. Larry should be played by an actual musical artist. In the book Julie has bad acne. It's literally described that she has a rash of pimples on her forehead. Therefore Julie should be played by a woman with bad skin. It's only fair. Pizza face representation now!:mad:
 

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I heard that there'd be a remake of The Stand years ago. As soon as I saw the story I knew it'd be bad. My thoughts were:
1. What's the point of shortening a very long and detailed book into a 2 hour movie when the miniseries is 4 hours long which gave it time to dive into the story?
2. It's not worth watching if Gary Sinise isn't the lead role.
 

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I heard that there'd be a remake of The Stand years ago. As soon as I saw the story I knew it'd be bad. My thoughts were:
1. What's the point of shortening a very long and detailed book into a 2 hour movie when the miniseries is 4 hours long which gave it time to dive into the story?
2. It's not worth watching if Gary Sinise isn't the lead role.
I do think the original mini series casted a lot of characters perfectly, yeah. New Randell Flaff looks more like a conspiracy theorist rather then old-Flagg who was a charismatic dude who can go from friendly to ā€œI could kill you in a second with a smile on my faceā€ depending on the scene. He had a good ā€œsinister beneath the surfaceā€ look to him.
 

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As for Larry, hm. I wonder why his race got changed in the remake. šŸ¤”

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No way. It's probably a coincidence.
 

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I guess now his mom will accuse him of ā€œsounding white to hide his proud heritageā€ or something similarly cringe inducing.
And he'll whine about how that's the only way to sell these days cause those gosh-darn conservatives make it impossible for a proud black man of color to get a foot in the door with the songs of his people.
 

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Does that mean Tom should be played by a mentally disabled person then?
They should have cast CWC.

Personally, I enjoy the show. The pacing just seems too slow for a TV series. Heard's acting is off. Looking at the Boulder sign and biting her lip was just way too obvious. I really liked Heather Graham as Rita Blakemoor. I wish they would have extended that role to the point where she kills herself midway through the season. I don't enjoy Larry Underwood. He's kind of a generic do gooder drug addict. I enjoyed Lloyd's appearance. I really think King needs to write a horror novel focused on Randal Flagg.
 

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The thing I liked most was the weird little side character's they'll cut. The freak in the CDC who screams about "Eating Chicken in the dark", the massive black gentleman who is executing people on TV, Larry and Joe bonding, Whitney Horgan. I dunno, just feels like we're going to get 75% of the full book
 

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The thing I liked most was the weird little side character's they'll cut. The freak in the CDC who screams about "Eating Chicken in the dark", the massive black gentleman who is executing people on TV, Larry and Joe bonding, Whitney Horgan. I dunno, just feels like we're going to get 75% of the full book
The weird little details is a big part of what makes Stephen King's work good and it's why a lot of adaptions suffer because those weird little details often have to be left out.
 

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