The TPP -

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Got no idea whether or not this should be in this sub-forum or in the News & Events sub-fourm. But I thought I'd ask this important question.

Just what exactly is everyone's feelings about the TPP?

For the people out there who don't know what the TPP is. Here's a quick summary:

The TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) is a treaty that America and China are currently discussing. And also what people are talking about. The partnership is hinted to have a long-standing side effect (a bad one, at that) if it does pass. And that would affect things like The Internet, Healthcare, Japan (and the weebs), even Canada's already terrible economy and dairy production. there's been plenty of campaigns out there to stop it, but there's a few problems. Mainly the fact that most of these talks are going on behind closed doors, which upsets a lot of people (Internet denizens, journalists, even some political figures and countries). Which means outside of some, not many people even know about what massive impact this could have, not just over the internet, but also for the entire economy and the world in general.

tl;dr- This is a shitty treaty and no one should support it. Any thoughts, questions?

 

[Trombonista]

China isn't involved in this. Japan is, though.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

China isn't involved in this. Japan is, though.

Yeah, though I thought I read somewhere that China was invovled, if not initially. Perhaps I was mistaken.

I am surprised neither of the Koreas are involved in this deal. Considering this is focused around the Pacific region of the world.

 

[Tookie]

China isn't involved yet, but there are reports they have approached the Obama administration to inquire about joining it after it is enacted.

 

[Zero]

The pacific is radioactive since Fukushima. I vote no.

 

[Trombonista]

Yeah, though I thought I read somewhere that China was invovled, if not initially. Perhaps I was mistaken.

I am surprised neither of the Koreas are involved in this deal. Considering this is focused around the Pacific region of the world.

South Korea is involved, or at least considering involvement.

 

[SU 390]

Bad fucking idea. Keep jobs in America and I currently can't afford a subscription to Shonen Jump to read my weekly manga. Though I will buy volumes soon.

 

[KatsuKitty]

They won't tell us what's in the TPP. That alone is very, very bad.

 

[chimpburgers]

The situation in this country is already fucked up enough as it is and has been for the past 40+ years now. I'm very critical of free trade, NAFTA and other measures like them and this sounds like another one of those measures that's not gonna help matters for people here at home desperately trying to find jobs as more and more of them are shipped off overseas. If it goes beyond this however, I'm honestly gonna be concerned.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Isn't there already a thread about this?

 

[SU 390]

Isn't there already a thread about this?

There is. But this is the Deep Thoughts version. Shhhhh.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

They're sending trannies to Asia? We've got enough in Thailand/Phillipines

 

[PantsOfDesire]

They won't tell us what's in the TPP. That alone is very, very bad.

That's definitely a red flag regardless of the content. The reasons given for secrecy are shit and in no way appropriate to the potential damage this treaty does to regular people. If they can share it with the MPAA and a variety of clearly interested corporations, they also should grant similar access to public interest groups and congress. That they keep this under-wraps, with such poor excuses, supports the claim that this treaty is a colossal land-grab on behalf of corporate interests.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

That's definitely a red flag regardless of the content. The reasons given for secrecy are shit and in no way appropriate to the potential damage this treaty does to regular people. If they can share it with the MPAA and a variety of clearly interested corporations, they also should grant similar access to public interest groups and congress. That they keep this under-wraps, with such poor excuses, supports the claim that this treaty is a colossal land-grab on behalf of corporate interests.

I'm surprised they didn't bother to extend it to the whole world, as if we needed anything more to ruin humanity.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I'm surprised they didn't bother to extend it to the whole world, as if we needed anything more to ruin humanity.

The Iranians are too smart to sign up to this jazz.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

The Iranians are too smart to sign up to this jazz.

Yet they weren't too smart to sign a nuclear agreement.

 

[Datiko]

I'm for it but I'm biased as I stand to directly benefit. Sucks for the unskilled worker in the US though.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

What I find funny is that every country participating thinks the other countries are going to steal their jobs. Americans think they're gonna lose jobs to other countries, other countries think they're gonna lose jobs to America.

Maybe the jobs will all just vanish magically.

 

[SU 390]

What I find funny is that every country participating thinks the other countries are going to steal their jobs. Americans think they're gonna lose jobs to other countries, other countries think they're gonna lose jobs to America.

Maybe the jobs will all just vanish magically.

Which is the problem. Shits bad enough as is. No more jobs should be leaving the U.S.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Which is the problem. Shits bad enough as is. No more jobs should be leaving the U.S.

Yeah they should, people in other countries need jobs more than you guys do.