The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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AnOminous

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All of NYT's employees should get a life sentence in GITMO for this.
Based on what law? If they actually doxed them and caused a mistrial, because doxing them would actually certainly cause that, maybe contempt. There's nothing whatsoever illegal about merely discussing the general composition of the jury, though.
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't evidence admitted on some form of negotiation basis where they go "okay, we accept that this is admitted but only under these circumstances?" The defense probably wanted it admitted but the prosecution would only allow it if it was introduced by one of their witnesses.
 

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Between the democratic operative trying to dox the jury and the prosecution... I am getting the bad feeling the democrats -want- Chauvin aquitted.
It's not as simple as having the Glowies round up 75 million Trump voters. They need their feral pets to do the killing while waxing about "mostly peaceful protests", so they can have plausible deniability.
 

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Between the democratic operative trying to dox the jury and the prosecution... I am getting the bad feeling the democrats -want- Chauvin aquitted.
Yeah. If they can get their golem to get a white maga chud to kill a innocent black person, they have all the ammo they need to put MAGAs and any other undesirables into camps. And take our guns et. al.
 

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So this saves the defense having to show the body cam footage later, right? How does this help the prosecution? Obviously I'm biased and this is a "two movies on one screen" scenario, but I have a hard time seeing how this helps the prosecution.
The only angle I can come up with is they are trying to say that Chauvin and co were aware of what they were doing since he was already complaining that he couldn't breathe.
 

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Comments from those watching the "George was a good boy" movie on this video (the last one is a troll)
 

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piter_de_vries

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't evidence admitted on some form of negotiation basis where they go "okay, we accept that this is admitted but only under these circumstances?" The defense probably wanted it admitted but the prosecution would only allow it if it was introduced by one of their witnesses.

Kinda, both sides generally have the right to introduce evidence within established procedure but either side can contest it. The negotiation is done with the judge who makes the final decision.
 

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So this saves the defense having to show the body cam footage later, right? How does this help the prosecution? Obviously I'm biased and this is a "two movies on one screen" scenario, but I have a hard time seeing how this helps the prosecution.
They're really hoping that the average white person is not familiar with Mann's Hoodrat Theater, and think Floyd is actually distressed and not putting on an act in the hope that somehow he gets a break out of it.
 

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Dunno man. @AnOminous , how am I doing?
Chauvin himself. I'm sure the cross examination would be brutal, but they really have to show this guy as a sympathetic human being, and the jury is going to assume that if he doesn't testify, it's because he can't because he actually did intend to kill Floyd.

Also he should turn on the waterworks for real and express remorse, while walking the tightrope between that and still maintaining he was either justified in what he did, or at least was up to a point, or that he fucked up. Being confused and afraid by an angry mob hooting and hollering is certainly one human way to explain a fuckup like this.
My lawful friend, you are a godsend in this thread. Are prior court appearances of whoever performed the autopsy or gave the second opinion something which can be formally introduced into the case, or can it only be limited to a persuasive argument directed towards the jury?
Yes, and in this case, when Baden gets introduced, both the prosecution and defense are going to want to bring up his record, but for different reasons. The prosecution because it establishes that he is a highly renowned expert in his field, and the defense because he invariably testifies in the manner most favorable for the party paying him.

The prosecution may try to soften up the cross examination by bringing up O.J. themselves. I seriously don't think that would hurt him much with this jury, but you still don't want the jury hearing things from your witness the first time on cross examination. It looks like you were hiding it.

Baden is very likely to weather even a brutal cross examination. He is absolutely excellent at what he does. Which is lie for money.
 

Gottahavemysips

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Between the democratic operative trying to dox the jury and the prosecution... I am getting the bad feeling the democrats -want- Chauvin aquitted.
I actually disagree there. It's not politically advantageous right now for them to have riots in the cities like it was a year ago. Their guy is at the head of the executive branch, and after all the blame they laid at Trump for the riots they would have to answer for that.
I just think this might be the best the prosecution can do in this case. The outrage over Floyd was always emotionally driven, and the US court system isn't built to be driven by pathos.
 
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