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  1. Some of these mental gymnastics would put the fucking yogis to shame with all the twisting about going on.

    OP is gay because he can't even lie straight or consistently.
     
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  2. Well the Bible is not a book on the scientific process on the formation of the universe and Earth, and the evolution of humans, it is a book on the fall of man, the history of the ancient Israelites, God's plan to save mankind, and the coming Apocalypse. So God did not intend to have the bible have an elaborate creation account because it is not that important other than the fact that God created the universe, Earth, and humans.

    However, the Gospels are much more important because God's plan to save mankind is the most important part of the bible, so he intended for the information in the Gospels to be taken literally.
     
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  3. Lol, imagine thinking any human anywhere had insight into or interest of the Divine.

    The Bible was written by humans, incidentally. Humans that probably should have clipped their ego, much like you.
     
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  4. So the OT isn't real but Aprhodite help you if you cum outside the vagina?

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. The OT is real. It gives the literal history of mankind from the time that the first evolved Homo sapiens with modern human behavior sinned, the flood(which was a local flood in the Middle East, the Exodus, the Kings of Israel, and the Babylonian captivity.

    It is only the creation account that is metaphorical.
     
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  6. God doesn't exist. The universe is actually a highly advanced MMORPG played by alien beings. The reason we haven't discovered intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy is because the kid playing our world can't afford the alien life DLC. This is my belief system, and I will brook no mockery.
     
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  7. I was starting to get disappointed, but you somehow managed to deliver. You might actually be the real deal after all. Carry on, you!

    They should start selling those with this quote on the cover, and the Royal Warrant seal.

    Right under "I spell-checked the whole thing myself!" -French GodBear
     
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  8. I bet you this guy has semen-covered photographs of Evelyn Waugh & Chesterton hidden in his room.
     
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  9. Reminder that NATIVE British people are 100 per cent BLACK BULLS. In fact Africans are a little mixed with whites due to the fact they have a land border with the wh*tes whereas we are detached from Eurasia so we kept our 100 per cent BLACK BULL bloodline

    This is why we voted Brexit. We have too many white immigrants from the EU. It would be ideal if we had no immigration to keep the BLACK bloodline pure, but that is economically impossible. African Blacks who are at least 70 per cent BLACK like are more similar to a pure Anglo Saxon who is 100 per cent BLACK, than a 0 per cent BLACK white pole. They are therefore easier to integrate into our society. This is also why we conquered Africa instead of Europe. We don't want wh*te subhumans in our country, even the mixed BLACKS of Africa are ok compared to them. So that is why the Commonwealth is almost all non-white countries who are mostly but not PURE BLACK like Canada and New Zealand.

    So we voted Brexit to kick out the wh*tes so we could import more BLACK BULLS.
     
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  10. you okay there champ?
     
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  11. This is just him. Ignore it.
     
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  12. I did more research into English history and realized that finding out the true heir is more complicated than I thought. What made the succession to the English throne unstable was the overthrow of King Richard II by the usurper Henry of Bolingbroke who became King Henry IV. This led to the later War of the Roses.

    The issue of the succession originated in 1376. Edward III's son Edward the Black Prince died, so the next in line was his grandson Richard, who later became Richard II. The next in line after Richard would have been Phillipa the daughter of Lionel Duke of Clarence, the second son of Edward III(who died in 1368. However Edward III made an entail that limited the succession to male heirs, which made his 3rd son John of Gaunt the next in line after Richard.

    I always thought that Richard II revoked the entail in 1386 when he named Roger Mortimer, the son of Phillipa and the ancestor of the Yorkist monarchs which made me believe that the Yorkist kings Edward IV and Richard III were the rightful Kings. However I found this article that claims that Richard II later restored Edward III's entail that limited succession to male heirs. http://www.mercedesrochelle.com/wordpress/?p=2186

    But even this wasn’t the end of the story. Richard was antagonistic toward John of Gaunt and this ill-will was transferred to his cousin Henry of Bolingbroke, especially after Henry joined the Lords Appellant and nearly cost him his throne in 1388. After the Appellant crisis, when Gaunt returned from Portugal, Richard received him joyfully back into the country; he had finally discovered that Gaunt’s presence was the only factor that kept his rebellious magnates at bay. In this time frame, by all indications, he restored Edward III’s entail and treated Gaunt as his heir—at least for the next five years.

    But this favor did not extend to Bolingbroke. In 1394, as Richard was planning his expedition to Ireland, Gaunt petitioned Parliament to appoint Bolingbroke as Keeper of the realm. The Keeper was traditionally the heir to the throne, so Gaunt was fishing for a commitment. He couldn’t serve as Keeper himself because he was due to leave for the Aquitaine, so naturally Henry—next in line according to the entail—would take his place. However the Earl of March raised a strong objection, for he felt that he was heir apparent (it is possible he did not know about Edward III’s entail). Richard told them both to be silent and instead decided that his uncle Edmund of Langley, Duke of York (Gaunt’s younger brother) would be Keeper in his absence.

    This was a whole new turn of events! Suddenly Gaunt was out and Edmund was in. From that point on, relations between Richard and the House of Lancaster began to sour. The King showered favors on his cousin, York’s son Edward, and created him Duke of Aumale. Whether Richard had intended to make York his heir, as Ian Mortimer concluded, remains speculation. If this was the case, it’s puzzling that Edmund defected to Bolingbroke, thus giving up his own—and his son’s—potential claim to the throne. Perhaps he had no inclination to be king; he was thought by many to be an indolent, irresolute fellow. Nonetheless, it was Edmund of Langley who fathered the House of York which proved so formidable in the Wars of the Roses.

    Richard found it useful to keep everyone in suspense about the succession and never did proclaim a definite heir, though for the last several years he favored his fair-weather cousin Edward Duke of Aumale. When Bolingbroke invaded England, Aumale eventually went over to his side. That was the end of Edward’s possible aspirations!

    So if it is true that Richard II restored the entail and made John of Gaunt the next in line, it means that the Mortimer line was not the rightful line to the succession of the throne. Yet the Lancastrian line was not the rightful line either, because Richard seemed to have excluded Henry of Bolingbroke from inheriting the throne as punishment for him joining the Lords Appellant. This was shown later when Richard confiscated the Duchy of Lancaster after John of Gaunt died, barring Henry from his inheritance which caused Henry to cause a rebellion that overthrew Richard.

    This means that the next in line to Richard II around the time of his deposition would either be Edmund Duke of York, or John of Gaunt's other son John Beaufort by his mistress Katherine Swynford, who was later declared legitimate by the Pope, the king, and Parliament.

    If Richard considered Edmund to be his heir, you may argue that it would still make the Yorkist kings the rightful kings as Edmund's son Richard of Conisburgh, 3rd Earl of Cambridge married Anne Mortimer of the Mortimer claim to the throne. However there is strong evidence that Edmund was cuckolded and Richard of Conisburgh was not his legitimate son. This is supported by the fact that his descendant Richard III's Y chromosome does not match with other male line Plantagenet descendants, the Somersets.

    However, the Somersets are not from a legitimate line because they are descended from a bastard son of Henry Beaufort. The legitimate male Beaufort line died in 1471 during the War of the Roses. As far as I know, there are no legitimate So following the principle of Salic law, except in the absence of male heirs, the Barons of Stafford would be the legitimate heirs to Richard II.

    However now, I am not sure whether Richard II restored Edward III's entail. If he revoked the entail, then the Yorkist kings were the rightful kings. If he did restore it, then neither the Yorkist or Lancastrian kings were the rightful kings and the Barons of Stafford are the rightful heirs. If he revoked the entail, but considered Edmund Duke of York to be his heir, then the rightful heirs would be the descendants of Edmund's daughter Constance Countess of Gloucester.

    I therefore need your help in trying to determine the rightful succession to Richard II. Did he restore Edward III's entail or did he revoke it?
     
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    #412 Jacob Harrison, Feb 6, 2019
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  13. Now it gets even more confusing. This is from the Wikipedia article on Richard II when he was overthrown by Henry of Bolingbroke.

    According to the official record (read by Thomas Arundel, archbishop of Canterbury, during an assembly of lords and commons at Westminster Hall on Tuesday 30 September), Richard gave up his crown willingly and ratified his deposition citing as a reason his own unworthiness as a monarch. On the other hand, the Traison et Mort Chronicle suggests otherwise. It describes a meeting between Richard and Henry that took place one day before the parliament's session. The king succumbed to blind rage, ordered his release from the Tower, called his cousin a traitor, demanded to see his wife and swore revenge throwing down his bonnet, while the duke refused to do anything without parliamentary approval.

    So I am not sure which account is more accurate. Did Richard II willingly give his crown to Henry IV or was it done against his will? This affects whether the House of Lancaster was legitimate.
     
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  14. Wow, it's almost like this happened hundreds of years ago and a bunch of self-interested pricks wrote their own histories after the fact.

    Probably a good thing that nobody cares, then.
     
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  15. It is important because it affects who the rightful heir to the throne of England is today.
     
    #415 Jacob Harrison, Feb 8, 2019
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  16. Whoever has the most guns defending their claim is the rightful heir, and therefore, the person currently occupying Buckingham Palace is that person.
     
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  17. Might does not make right.
     
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  18. It does in reality.
     
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  19. It literally does when it come to royalty. The right of conquest superceeds the claim of blood as mentioned earlier. Victory or defeat in war was historically seen as the will of God.

    You could become king if you could muster the manpower to beat the crap out of anyone who said otherwise. That's basically how nearly every royal house ever came into being. Even the ones who didn't like Sweden's House of Bernadotte are only there because Napoleon would kick the shit out of anyone who said otherwise about their ancestor taking the throne.
     
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  20. Or maybe if you try to make an issue out of it, the UK will decide the monarchy is more trouble that it's worth, declare a republic, and abolish all titles of nobility.
     
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