The UnMaking of an SJW - What prompts people to leave the cult behind?

[queerape]

Are some SJWs more prone to eventually turning normal again? If so, what makes them go back, which ones are more likely to escape, how old are they usually by the time they go back to normal? Do former SJWs tend to lean left, right, or neither most of the time?

 

[The ArchLich]

No it’s a terminal illness the only way they can recover is with passing unfortunately, but I did hear a rumor that moving to an isolated area in middle America or Antarctica or Alaska could possibly reverse the issue. But it’s experimental at best and a fairytale at worst.

 

[Get_your_kicks_with_30-06]

I thought we all stopped using the name SJW because it was played out and gay. I think we just call those types of people faggots and tards now.

 

[Wallace]

Having them turn on you is a pretty effective way to get out.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

The time they get bitten (Like @Wallace said) is their one moment to have a revelation, a la Ian Miles Cheong - though he's still a complete faggot, that part is unavoidable. Aside from that, the comfort of likeminded idiots will keep them in.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Depends on how old you are, I think.

If you’re in high school? It’s probably just a phase brought on by media brainwashing. Everyone does/believes some dumb shit in their youth, I’m not gonna blame the kids.

If you’re in college? There’s probably still a chance, if there’s any major events you personally witness or experience that might make you decide that SJW’s have gone too far. But if you’re already deep down that rabbit hole, there’s probably no turning back.

After that? Yeah, you’re stuck in your beliefs at that point.

 

[Flake452]

Most of them are just sheep who follow the crowd, if they move into a different social group their values and personality will likely change.

 

[Mediocre]

Depends really, I'm sure a few far-left people come to the realization that some of their beliefs are ultimately stupid but normally these people surround themselves with people who have the same beliefs and I guess they feel like they're trapped. If they even speak about agreeing with more right-wing views then they'll be isolated and called a Nazi, lose their comfy tech job in California and be thrown to the wolves which in their mind is the worst case scenario.

I guess there have been a few cases where these people switch sides and become right-wing grifters exploiting people for shekels by being "based & redpilled" and making shitty videos but even then eventually they'll be de-platformed and lose their audience and now they're known as a "Nazi" and there isn't really anyway to go back since you're considered a bigot etc.

tl'dr politics sperging is all so tiresome.

 

[Muttnik]

Sometimes it just happens on its own over time.

I remember getting out of college pretty liberal and borderline full SJW. But when you enter the real world and see how people really are, you start to gain a different perspective. I started to notice how my college friends really hated men, how they never seemed to really grow up, how they all started making up new genders for themselves out of nowhere.

Then the 2016 election happened and everything exploded like a goddamn nuke. Everyone went rabid, foaming at the mouth, wailing, saying the stupidest goddamn shit imaginable and refusing to see in shades of gray.

It was a sober wakeup call and was enough to throw a left-leaning person like me in the complete opposite direction. I think there are plenty of other people out there. Hopefully, more and more people will get fed up with it all and change the same way.

 

[HeyYou]

Getting a significant other with conflicting views often does it. I had a friend from high school who was super SJW. She discovered she was a lesbian and ended up dating a conservative woman (fucking hell). She ended up extremely moderate within months, and even after they broke up she stayed mostly moderate.

 

[Draza]

Once they leave outside their bubble and face the harsh reality that is polar opposite of their moronic beliefs, then they not become SJWs anymore. But this applies to most of them, few are stubborn to face the truth of world.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I think the make or break moment is whether or not they are in an echo chamber. I've had a few friends who displayed questionable views, but if you had an actual conversation with them and refuted whatever kool-aid they were drinking, they'd start thinking about what they were saying and realizing it didn't make any sense. In my experience, usually all you have to do is let them talk for awhile and they'll eventually puzzle it out on their own. Basically, as long as you don't blindly agree or respond in an overly aggressive fashion, it'll work itself out.

There are some exceptions, especially if they tend to be buried in online outrage communities. I used to work with someone who I think to this day is still screeching about how Hillary only lost the election because of sexism and she'd accuse anyone, no matter what their gender of being sexist themselves if they didn't agree. But even people like that I think are helpful because their craziness can potentially snap someone else back into reality who was buying into a less extreme version of their beliefs.

I think the main thing is, don't try and force someone to change. If you do, they'll just retreat further into their echo chamber and are more likely to stay there out of spite/not wanting to admit they were wrong. There's also just an age/experience factor too, where you believe something dumb because you don't know better/lack real world experience, then naturally come out of it when you realize your younger self was a tard who didn't know anything.

 

[La Luz Extinguido]

I started as an SJW very recently when I was over 60 years old, before I was a bigot, and I don't intend on ever going back to that dark place.

 

[WoodlumHax]

I knew a chick in highschool who basically made identity politics her whole personality. She was really hard to talk to, usually turning conversations into one-person circle jerks about how she was "so brave for wearing makeup while using male pronouns", etc. This went on for a couple years, until one day when she screamed something to the effect of "I'M A HE" at our old geometry teacher for calling her a she. I was going to talk to her abut it the next day, I don't really remember what I was going to say exactly, but before I could ask she told me she was going to stop she told me not to call her by the male name she chose or anything anymore.

Not sure if a lot of these situations end with getting angry and having a crisis, but I do know this one did.

 

[DK 699]

I knew a chick in highschool who basically made identity politics her whole personality. She was really hard to talk to, usually turning conversations into one-person circle jerks about how she was "so brave for wearing makeup while using male pronouns", etc. This went on for a couple years, until one day when she screamed something to the effect of "I'M A HE" at our old geometry teacher for calling her a she. I was going to talk to her abut it the next day, I don't really remember what I was going to say exactly, but before I could ask she told me she was going to stop she told me not to call her by the male name she chose or anything anymore.

Not sure if a lot of these situations end with getting angry and having a crisis, but I do know this one did.

This kinda sounds like autism; the way she has a fixation on one particular subject, I mean.

 

[BW 182]

Having them turn on you is a pretty effective way to get out.

A lot of them just jump to the other side and maintain their faggotry, though. The unmaking of an SJW may be the making of a skeptic, and they are two sides of the same coin.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Honestly, it depends on the culture for a lot of them, especially the masses who are less publicly vocal and more along the lines of conforming to the current trends/cultural zeitgeist.

Whether or not we see mass abandonment of SJW identity politics and how it will happen if it does really all depends on when and how the SJW bubble bursts and what will be the new sociopolitical zeitgeist that takes its place.

Look at the last time we had a very left-wing cultural zeitgeist back in the 60's and 70's with the New Left and the related counterculture of that era. A lot of those Boomers who were left-wing ended up switching sides in the early 80's once the economy started to pick up and Ronald Reagan came into power. Most of the New Left went from hippie to yuppie as the old saying goes.

Those who didn't "sell out" in the 80's and 90's were relegated to the fringes of society for the most part, although a few of the luckier "true believers" got into academia and helped exacerbate the current far-left hysteria of the 2010's.

Assuming we don't see a massive spike in Millennial suicides in the 2020's and 2030's instead, a lot of the SJW's who hopped on to fit in with the "in-crowd" will likely drop the woke nonsense in the next ten to fifteen years as middle age sets in.

A lot of them will still be massive dickheads and morons, but they won't be SJW dickheads and morons.

A person is an individualist. People as a whole are herd animals and generally very conformist, especially in large groups

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Getting a significant other with conflicting views often does it. I had a friend from high school who was super SJW. She discovered she was a lesbian and ended up dating a conservative woman (fucking hell). She ended up extremely moderate within months, and even after they broke up she stayed mostly moderate.

Even if you aren't fucking them, generally hanging around, doing normal shit with other normalfags, and breaking them away from the hivemind starts to "deprogram" people. I can't tell you how many hardened SJW types I've seen change their ways by being in situations where they are interacting regularly with other people who don't live on Tumblr/Twitter. It really can't be overstated how much of an impact social media plays in keeping people in this mindset.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

We need to force SJWs and alt-righters to get married and see who converts whom

 

[Dom Cruise]

Sometimes it just happens on its own over time.

I remember getting out of college pretty liberal and borderline full SJW. But when you enter the real world and see how people really are, you start to gain a different perspective. I started to notice how my college friends really hated men, how they never seemed to really grow up, how they all started making up new genders for themselves out of nowhere.

Then the 2016 election happened and everything exploded like a goddamn nuke. Everyone went rabid, foaming at the mouth, wailing, saying the stupidest goddamn shit imaginable and refusing to see in shades of gray.

It was a sober wakeup call and was enough to throw a left-leaning person like me in the complete opposite direction. I think there are plenty of other people out there. Hopefully, more and more people will get fed up with it all and change the same way.

This is basically the evolution I undertook as well, several years ago I was very liberal, but then I pretty much hated the SJW mindset as soon as it took off, so I was already very disillusioned with the left, but still considered myself a part of it, I was not at all a Trump supporter and wound up not voting for him, though I was tempted, I was paying attention to right wing sources and taking them seriously.

But it took the reaction to Trump as well as the fact that he wasn't the end of the world like the left said, to finally cause me to reach a turning point, the left had already gone pretty nuts but they totally doubled down under Trump and that was when I jumped ship.

As for an answer to the OP's question I would say no, for the die hard drinkers of the Kool-Aid nothing's going to change their minds as is, however the vast majority of them are bandwagon hopping sheep, so if the culture changed and it become uncool to be that way, a lot of them would change, but it's a question of whether that culture wide shift can occur.