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At this point it is undeniable
The wrong side won World War II -
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"No!"
Nein
Yes we know. If the allied armies saw the world we live in today, they all would’ve mutinied. However, the allies did win World War II and we live in the world that we do. No use crying over what could’ve been, we have to fight for what can be
No, the wrong side Won WW1
Imagine it; a GLOBAL Ottoman Empire. HSPs available at every corner store, and questionable turkish delight.
I would love to see how Nazi Germany would have degraded if they managed to sue for peace or even secure some small part of their territory. Guys were already trying to merc Hitler during the war, there very well might have been a coup afterward. Considering the forces of intrigue were reactionary in nature, there could probably be a period of trying to restore a Kaiser.
Although how that would have held up to the cold war's constant espionage and proxy conflicts, especially considering the capitalist west became more socially liberal and did shit like leaving Rhodesia out to die, this Neo-Kaiserreich probably would not last to the late cold war, having an outsider influenced revolution/coup in favor of either the capitalist industrial concerns or some kind of tankie demagogue.
I don't know, one of the major issues with Fascism is that conflict is a key tenet of its philosophy. With open warfare over and Hitler probably getting knocked out of power, they would likely transition to some other form of government, even if slowly. The way I see it is a "successful" Nazi Germany would turn into one of the many third world countries being fought over by NATO and the USSR.
Although how that would have held up to the cold war's constant espionage and proxy conflicts, especially considering the capitalist west became more socially liberal and did shit like leaving Rhodesia out to die, this Neo-Kaiserreich probably would not last to the late cold war, having an outsider influenced revolution/coup in favor of either the capitalist industrial concerns or some kind of tankie demagogue.
I don't know, one of the major issues with Fascism is that conflict is a key tenet of its philosophy. With open warfare over and Hitler probably getting knocked out of power, they would likely transition to some other form of government, even if slowly. The way I see it is a "successful" Nazi Germany would turn into one of the many third world countries being fought over by NATO and the USSR.
Thats not an argument.
Oh not this shit again.
Imagine your wife/daughter/sister forcefully conscripted into the Jap sex slave corps
Why am I crying in da club rn
Broke: Good guys won WW2
Woke: Bad guys won WW2
Ascended: Everybody lost WW2
Autism rant:
In short: I think both sides had massive flaws, and the cultural distortion was really caused by the ripples of the massive war that happened. It would have been harder for example to push poz shit/immigration without losing a ton of good people internally or having this spooky spectre of muh nazis being summoned whenever somebody wants to make a sensible immigration/moral/whatever law.
I used to think the US won due to it reaching hegemonic status in the 20th century, but the trends say it would have been a super power anyway. I think the US would have been less addicted to Imperial policing action, which would have saved some lives and money.
The Soviet Union too was bound to reach a similar influence the Russian Empire used to have, due to consolidating power. They clearly weren't really equiped to take over Eastern Europe, considering how crude their command and control over the region really was. Not to mention maybe not having these baked in market states would have forced Moscow to make an economic system which scale better and it's more flexible.
The European powers all bled out and died, both due to the blood loss of the war and the weird leftist nonsense encouraged by the post war Establishment. Also all European identity was pretty much dead, see how Turkey got away with messing with the Greeks.
Woke: Bad guys won WW2
Ascended: Everybody lost WW2
Autism rant:
In short: I think both sides had massive flaws, and the cultural distortion was really caused by the ripples of the massive war that happened. It would have been harder for example to push poz shit/immigration without losing a ton of good people internally or having this spooky spectre of muh nazis being summoned whenever somebody wants to make a sensible immigration/moral/whatever law.
I used to think the US won due to it reaching hegemonic status in the 20th century, but the trends say it would have been a super power anyway. I think the US would have been less addicted to Imperial policing action, which would have saved some lives and money.
The Soviet Union too was bound to reach a similar influence the Russian Empire used to have, due to consolidating power. They clearly weren't really equiped to take over Eastern Europe, considering how crude their command and control over the region really was. Not to mention maybe not having these baked in market states would have forced Moscow to make an economic system which scale better and it's more flexible.
The European powers all bled out and died, both due to the blood loss of the war and the weird leftist nonsense encouraged by the post war Establishment. Also all European identity was pretty much dead, see how Turkey got away with messing with the Greeks.
Mama Mia!Imagine a world where Italian is the lingua franca. You're right, the wrong side did lose.
Both wars were white chimpouts, but yeah. WW1 had a more clear cut win condition.
Seeing the large amount of fascist traps, trad femboys, and strasserite troons made me realize the right side won WWII.
Can't wait for all the Jeb traps.
ShirleyUJest
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true dat
