Things that go against the BLM narrative - the USA is on fire because of the media's lies

The Dude

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(Rate me autistic on this one if you want, but here goes.)

Back about 6 years ago I remember reading a forum discussion in which the high rate of black criminality, particularly violent crime and murder, was explained away by pointing to the high poverty rate in the black community. In other words Blacks commit violent crimes not because they are black, but because they are poor.

So I looked at the most recent census stats (2010 at the time) for the population size, poverty rate, and white, black, and hispanic populations. Then combined it with the 2010 FBI crime stats, made some spread sheets, wrote some Matlab code and made some graphs. (Just making this point, because you won't be able to reverse image source these pictures.)

So in the first picture we have the Poverty rate in the first column, Black pop. percentage in the second column, and White population perc. in the third column, The top row is the Violent Crime rate and the second row is the Murder rate. The cut off for cities was population >250,000 (can't remember why I picked that), and the graphs show the correlation between the data.

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The results in the first row show that Poverty/Violent Crime and Black/Violent Crime correlate positively about the same. So not good for the "Blacks are violent because they are impoverished" argument, as the Black poverty rate tends to be about 20%. There's also a bit of a negative correlation between Whites and Violent Crime.

The results in the second row are damning. Poverty/Murder correlate positively at ~.43, but Black/Murder correlate pos. at ~.61. I'd be surprised if anyone can find a statistic that correlates better with a city's Murder rate than the Black population. Really, if you want to avoid murder, avoid Black cities. Period.

A bit related to this has been the discussion (and fear) about which trend America's growing Hispanic population will follow. Will they be like Blacks? or Whites? So in the second picture we have two of the same data sets from the previous (Poverty and White) and Black has now been replaced with Hispanic. Fortunately Hispanic follows the White trend with slight negative correlations for Violent Crime and Murder. Not as good as the White numbers, but considering the high rate of Hispanic poverty at 18% (nearly as high as Black poverty), that's pretty damn good. So hurray for Pablo (and America too).

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You want to see some statistics that'll really make you think? Check out the crime rates for the poorest white homogeneous area in the US (some county in Appalachia) versus the crime rates for the wealthiest black homogeneous area in the US (some community in California). The rich black people still cause far more crimes of all types than the poor whites. That, to me, is proof right there that it isn't poverty or class inequality causing blacks to commit crimes.

Every single ethnic group (or pretty much most of them) have at some point had members of their group enslaved by others, yet Black people act as if they were the only ones. The amount of white people enslaved by non Europeans in all likelihood is probably equal to the amount of Africans enslaved, but because no ones actually done the calculations, people pretend like it was lower in scale.

Exactly. Blacks weren't even the only slaves in America. There were white slaves as well, mostly Irish. But you don't hear about them or the black slave traders in school or most history books. It goes against the narrative. There is absolutely an agenda behind all this, and it's disgusting.

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Warning from a Venezuelan:
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Some info about what might be going on:

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CHAZ openly siding with China:
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Evidence that ex CNN employees get hired to spread Chinese propaganda, hinting that CNN might have ties to China:
http://archive.md/Y4yyP

Nice to know CHAZ is OK with literal slavery and human organ harvesting. Fucking Commies are all the same.
 
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Niggernerd

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All I've heard argument wise from people supporting BLM has been purely emotional.

They'll never give statistics, hard data, or anecdotal evidence on how they feel. It's always stuff like "Black people have been held down for too long" and "You don't understand how they feel" and my personal favorite "you're white".

Facts and data don't give a fuck about skin color. They are unbiased, but can be molded into whatever narrative you want. Thus is why fake statistics are coming out.

They don't believe in nuance or multi-layered reasoning. They just see "white people bad" and "black people oppressed".

Can things be improved? Of course. This isn't the way to do it. It will set their cause back by decades.

PL - I have family that I've argued with that believe the narratives.
I don't try to argue with my sister who believes their bullshit. It's not worth the time really. Its just "muh innocent black peepoles :mad: HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT THEM DESTROYING CITIES ITS FUCKING WHITE PEEPOO WHO ARE DOING IT!"
 

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Here's some info on interracial rapes in America:


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And here's evidence that BLM is a movement comprised primarily of self-hating whites:
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Here's evidence that the Atlanta police force has a majority of African American officers. The Atlanta protests were mostly white kids yelling about blacks cops being bastards.
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This is how social justice makes many pale skinned people feel. Needless to say, creating more racists isn't good for minorities.
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This black professor tells it like it is:

Modern day anti-racism is just racism under a new name.
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All I've heard argument wise from people supporting BLM has been purely emotional.

They'll never give statistics, hard data, or anecdotal evidence on how they feel. It's always stuff like "Black people have been held down for too long" and "You don't understand how they feel" and my personal favorite "you're white".

Facts and data don't give a fuck about skin color. They are unbiased, but can be molded into whatever narrative you want. Thus is why fake statistics are coming out.

They don't believe in nuance or multi-layered reasoning. They just see "white people bad" and "black people oppressed".

Can things be improved? Of course. This isn't the way to do it. It will set their cause back by decades.

PL - I have family that I've argued with that believe the narratives.
You're right. My relatives who buy into it only have emotional arguments as well. It's probably best to appeal to people's emotions instead of showing them data. 🤔
 
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The Dude

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Here's some info on interracial rapes in America:


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And here's evidence that BLM is a movement comprised primarily of self-hating whites:
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Here's evidence that the Atlanta police force has a majority of African American officers. The Atlanta protests were mostly white kids yelling about blacks cops being bastards.
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This is how social justice makes many pale skinned people feel. Needless to say, creating more racists isn't good for minorities.
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Modern day anti-racism is just racism under a new name.
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You're right. My relatives who buy into it only have emotional arguments as well. It's probably best to appeal to people's emotions instead of showing them data. 🤔

A perfect example of irony: the grandchildren of those who protested and marched to end segregation are now protesting and marching to bring segregation back.

And honestly, I can't say that I'd mind if our country went back to segregation. Let the blacks have their own cities where they can run things their own way, whites aren't allowed, and likewise blacks aren't allowed in white communities. No police unless they start their own law enforcement. No white firefighters or EMS. And no white assistance, especially financially. If whity is to blame for all their problems then they shouldn't want white help at all. Let them build Wakanda if they can.
 
A perfect example of irony: the grandchildren of those who protested and marched to end segregation are now protesting and marching to bring segregation back.

And honestly, I can't say that I'd mind if our country went back to segregation. Let the blacks have their own cities where they can run things their own way, whites aren't allowed, and likewise blacks aren't allowed in white communities. No police unless they start their own law enforcement. No white firefighters or EMS. And no white assistance, especially financially. If whity is to blame for all their problems then they shouldn't want white help at all. Let them build Wakanda if they can.
This wont fix anything. Most of those out demanding these vast societal changes are white, the rioters are mostly black. The societal problems stem from class issues, not race issues.

There is absolutely systemic racism in america, but not from the right. It's from the left, specifically educational institutions. Poor Black americans are taught to be helpless, their behavior is excused, and the government systems behind education penalize schools for disciplining kids because "muh racism". If the kids dont learn it from their parents and dont learn it from school they'll learn it over and over again from society pounding them into the ground. The media coddles entire communities. Affirmative action leads to more blacks failing college and getting discourages from improving their lives and feeds the victim narrative.

These same issues affect all areas of poverty. Poverty stricken white and latino communities have similar issues, but dont generate the media attention and, in the case of whites, are often in rural areas that can be ignored both for crime statistics and media attention.

The true solution IMO is to address the rampant failure of the nuclear family and lack of values in these poverty communities, and the lack of upward momentum cause by this, along with IMO doing what Null wants and forcing monetary systems to accept ALL transactions no matter how "problematic" the media source, because there is just no media to counter the narrative of big left wing media sources, and that is the first step in creating moderate and right wing alternative institutions to hold left wing institutions in check.
 

lurk_moar

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If black lives matter, then why is black on black violence not an issue to them? The biggest killer of black young men is homicide. Drive by shootings take the lives of many innocent children. How are these not issues? On the other hand, evil, murdering, racist KKK cops and abortion are the issues. Murdering cops and abortion are very easy things to blame/scapegoat because they are out of black peoples’s control; it’s somebody else not us.
 

Doctor Placebo

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If black lives matter, then why is black on black violence not an issue to them? The biggest killer of black young men is homicide. Drive by shootings take the lives of many innocent children. How are these not issues? On the other hand, evil, murdering, racist KKK cops and abortion are the issues. Murdering cops and abortion are very easy things to blame/scapegoat because they are out of black peoples’s control; it’s somebody else not us.
Because it's not about actually solving problems or making life better for anyone. It's about widening divisions to exploit people for profit and power more easily.
 
If black lives matter, then why is black on black violence not an issue to them? The biggest killer of black young men is homicide. Drive by shootings take the lives of many innocent children. How are these not issues? On the other hand, evil, murdering, racist KKK cops and abortion are the issues. Murdering cops and abortion are very easy things to blame/scapegoat because they are out of black peoples’s control; it’s somebody else not us.
This is a classic trauma response pattern, btw. Once someone's spirit is broken, as long as their current set of problems are a mix of their fault and their environment's fault, it's virtually impossible to get them to focus on the things they can control, because they have a long history of it not mattering anyways. Unfortunately, we don't have the equivalent of cognitive behavioral therapy for an entire culture, and there are no longer any good role models to point to.
 

Dysnomia

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A perfect example of irony: the grandchildren of those who protested and marched to end segregation are now protesting and marching to bring segregation back.

And honestly, I can't say that I'd mind if our country went back to segregation. Let the blacks have their own cities where they can run things their own way, whites aren't allowed, and likewise blacks aren't allowed in white communities. No police unless they start their own law enforcement. No white firefighters or EMS. And no white assistance, especially financially. If whity is to blame for all their problems then they shouldn't want white help at all. Let them build Wakanda if they can.

I live in a black neighborhood. I grew up here and thirty years ago it was white and pretty nice. In the 90s it started going downhill fast. There was a driveby across the street from my house. Ironically it was at a house I had lived in only a few years before. There was so much trouble that summer that the police stationed a mobile unit. It was right in front of our house. My mom didn't even want us going outside. Several times a week you would see police helicopters shining spotlights into the yards and alleys looking for people. Sirens and gunshots all night long. The urban blight got worse and worse.

It's supposed to be safer here now. But I don't know. I might be biased because I have only been back a year and a half.

The oldsters would tell you all the trouble really started when the city built the housing project decades before. It was right between a jr. high and an elementary. So those schools started going bad too. My neighbor was a teaching assistant at the elementary and she was always talking about how bad the kids were.

I was able to get out for about thirteen years and it was really nice where I was. My #woke cousin said the area I was living in was racist. An area he never lived in or went to often. There was actually a good mix of people there. But it was mainly white and low crime because a lot of cops lived there. a lot of the porches had blue lights and blue lives matter flags. If you had something like that here your house would probably get vandalized.

The blacker the hood the worse the crime. It is a fact of reality you can't get away from. It's easier to dismiss this as "the whyman keepin' me down". It's easier to shut down anyone who brings up black on black crime as being racist and trying to deflect BLM concerns. But avoiding the issue doesn't solve it. Blaming whitey and the cops for everything doesn't stop Tyriq and Rashawndre from gunning each other down in the streets over stupid ghetto stuff. Keep avoiding the real problems of your community. Those of us who are white or other races who live in your communities suffer too because of this. I don't want to be collateral damage because somebody got disrespected at the chicken store. And yes I have seen knife fights there. Not even being racist. It happened.

Blacks like to dismiss obeying the police as being useless by cherrypicking incidents where the police overreacted and shot a suspect. But then we get riots over Mike Brown. Maybe if you didn't make every black man who gets shot by the police a martyr it would get taken more seriously.

I've done nothing wrong to anybody. I am not privileged. I am not giving my money out in reparations so Tawandra can buy herself some hair and bling. Reparations will literally fix nothing even if the money is poured into education. Because it's just a big bandaid over a gushing wound.

This is a classic trauma response pattern, btw. Once someone's spirit is broken, as long as their current set of problems are a mix of their fault and their environment's fault, it's virtually impossible to get them to focus on the things they can control, because they have a long history of it not mattering anyways. Unfortunately, we don't have the equivalent of cognitive behavioral therapy for an entire culture, and there are no longer any good role models to point to.

It's just easier to riot. But if you don't work on yourself nothing is going to help you. We're gonna be dealing with this BLM stuff for a very long time.
 

Harbinger of Kali Yuga

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You want to see some statistics that'll really make you think? Check out the crime rates for the poorest white homogeneous area in the US (some county in Appalachia) versus the crime rates for the wealthiest black homogeneous area in the US (some community in California). The rich black people still cause far more crimes of all types than the poor whites. That, to me, is proof right there that it isn't poverty or class inequality causing blacks to commit crimes.

Just want to point out this could possibly be explained by more rigorous policing as Appalachia doesn't have the police resources an urban area would.
 

The Dude

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Just want to point out this could possibly be explained by more rigorous policing as Appalachia doesn't have the police resources an urban area would.

That doesn't explain how crime rates in pretty much any predominantly white neighborhoods are lower than predominantly black neighborhoods. It's an uncomfortable truth, but the fact is that blacks simply commit more crimes and class/economic status has little to nothing to do with it.
 

Harbinger of Kali Yuga

Because the world is SO BAD, like diet soda.
That doesn't explain how crime rates in pretty much any predominantly white neighborhoods are lower than predominantly black neighborhoods. It's an uncomfortable truth, but the fact is that blacks simply commit more crimes and class/economic status has little to nothing to do with it.

I was discussing Appalachia specifically. I don't know what the stats are, nor am I denying what you are saying, just noting we just have to be careful how we compare and interpret the data. Two sets of numbers can be very misleading if they were collected in different circumstances or within different contexts.

Remember, "the other side" uses this error to complain about there not being enough black programmers, or whatever, being simply unable to believe there may be population differences between blacks and whites beyond merely skin color. (I don't think any of these are genetic).
 

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