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Kot Johansson

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Do the post-IBM Lenovo physical housing hold up, or are they just skating on the established reputation of the Thinkpad while lower quality like Doc Martin boots?
Nah, they're trash, nowadays Lenovo is trying to turn them into Macbook clones (They did away with the expandability and user-serviceability and want to make them thin for no fucking reason).
 
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The main issue I have with laptops is I can maintain the underlying electronics and hardware better than the actual physical housings. My Toshiba satellite works just fine, but the plastic is coming apart and has a loud as fuck fan, so it stays as a "house laptop" relegated to being a pornostash machine Do the post-IBM Lenovo physical housing hold up, or are they just skating on the established reputation of the Thinkpad while lower quality like Doc Martin boots?
I've had a T60 (just post acquisition), T400 (several years post acquisition) and a 2013 vintage (8 years post acquisition) X-series machine for a while. See no real quality difference.

Now, obviously:
  1. All 'convertible laptops' that turn into tablets are complete garbage that will fail immediately unless used by middle-aged women who just leave them in one place
  2. 'Ultrabooks' are garbage in general
Lenovo quality has gone down because the market wants stupidly light stupidly small plastic overly integrated garbage. Even then, if you really spend, the X1 Carbon is probably one of the least bad of the Ultrabook business laptops. Yes they have stupid integrated batteries, yes the RAM and SSDs are soldered, and early models had bad battery life, newer not so much, but I've seen those hold up to hard use by men who would break other girly toy Ultrabooks like twigs within a couple months.

Blaming a decline in quality on Lenovo or Chinamen in general is a little ridiculous, frankly. Chinese didn't ruin Lenovo, morons worldwide ruined Lenovo. If you can't hold up a 5 pound laptop in the air and respond to emails while heading to a meeting you shouldn't be using a computer.
 
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I've had a T60 (just post acquisition), T400 (several years post acquisition) and a 2013 vintage (8 years post acquisition) X-series machine for a while. See no real quality difference.

Now, obviously:
  1. All 'convertible laptops' that turn into tablets are complete garbage that will fail immediately unless used by middle-aged women who just leave them in one place
  2. 'Ultrabooks' are garbage in general
Lenovo quality has gone down because the market wants stupidly light stupidly small plastic overly integrated garbage. Even then, if you really spend, the X1 Carbon is probably one of the least bad of the Ultrabook business laptops. Yes they have stupid integrated batteries, yes the RAM and SSDs are soldered, and early models had bad battery life, newer not so much, but I've seen those hold up to hard use by men who would break other girly toy Ultrabooks like twigs within a couple months.

Blaming a decline in quality on Lenovo or Chinamen in general is a little ridiculous, frankly. Chinese didn't ruin Lenovo, morons worldwide ruined Lenovo. If you can't hold up a 5 pound laptop in the air and respond to emails while heading to a meeting you shouldn't be using a computer.
Thanks I'll keep that all in mind. As for consumer demands, the shrinking of electronics also has a lot to do with power usage. Smaller wires = less power consumption. Course smaller devices = more fragile (or at least feel like it), and smaller also = harder to fix. Even if you know how to solder, its going to be tiny as fuck surface mounted components, in a very tight space, on a small device. It can be done, but it makes the barrier much higher for most power users that weren't maintaining computers in the 70's and 80's, when almost all chips were soldered directly onto the motherboard (and even then, the size of machines and components made it much easier to solder stuff on and off).

And really I don't blame business people wanting lighter stuff due to flight travel.
 
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