Thoughts about DSP's Psychology - Dr Fred Freud's Office

[Bébé]

No, it was basically a knockoff of Maddox's website with a vidya/FGC/internet culture focus rather than whatever crossed his mind. The term "Top Haters" was what Phil called himself + people who agreed with him (I can't be bothered to look but it may have referred to people who posted on his forum as well). Of course, since Phil was radioactive even when he made the site, nobody other than him actually used that term.

Archived link if you really, truly hate yourself

"Why do we hate? Because we have been hated on, we've had enough, and we don't give a fuck anymore."

This is almost as embarrassing as I imagined

 

[Freshtodeath]

There is some weird psychology going on with his days off. He always has to express how busy he is on his days off. I think he thinks adults like always run errands on their days off. Obviously some people do but I also know a lot of people who relax. I always get my shit done day before so I can sit on my ass on my off days. But he could schedule things like grocery shopping on days other than his day off. I dont understand why he has to continue this idea that he is so busy. Also usually my errands are done by like noon. Where is he going that takes 12 hours?

 

[actually]

There is some weird psychology going on with his days off. He always has to express how busy he is on his days off. I think he thinks adults like always run errands on their days off. Obviously some people do but I also know a lot of people who relax. I always get my shit done day before so I can sit on my ass on my off days. But he could schedule things like grocery shopping on days other than his day off. I dont understand why he has to continue this idea that he is so busy. Also usually my errands are done by like noon. Where is he going that takes 12 hours?

He's not. It's part of his "I'm a big boy adult" persona. It's the same reason he tries to pretend he works 12 hours a day. It feeds the "busting my ass" narrative that keeps at least some of the speds giving him money.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I’m shocked his obvious gambling addiction isn‘t being discussed in a psychology discussion thread. The dude is destroying himself financially in pursuit of oily wrestling men jpegs on his phone.

I mean it’s a straight up gambling addiction but what a fucking bizarre one, he can’t even pretend he might get even a cent back from flushing $50k plus down the shitter. And for what? Most gamblers can at least lie to themselves that the “big win” is just around the corner and will fix everything. Phil can’t even use that rationalization. The biggest win he can hope for is just another muscle man which has no value other than clout among his other gatcha addicts on discord.

And he continues to throw money away even as he’s in bankruptcy proceedings.

 

[King DDT]

I’m shocked his obvious gambling addiction isn‘t being discussed in a psychology discussion thread. The dude is destroying himself financially in pursuit of oily wrestling men jpegs on his phone.

I mean it’s a straight up gambling addiction but what a fucking bizarre one, he can’t even pretend he might get even a cent back from flushing $50k plus down the shitter. And for what? Most gamblers can at least lie to themselves that the “big win” is just around the corner and will fix everything. Phil can’t even use that rationalization. The biggest win he can hope for is just another muscle man which has no value other than clout among his other gatcha addicts on discord.

And he continues to throw money away even as he’s in bankruptcy proceedings.

I think it's because there's a dedicated thread to the WWE Champions and any discussion about it and his psychological issues stemming from repressing his homosexual urges to grease up Scott Steiner are posted there.

I find myself leaning towards something @DiabeticSP said. The WWE isn't just about his love of Wrasslin or his Cocklust/Muscle Envy. It's about finding a place where he's finally top dog. A place where he's finally not the punchline to every joke. He can logon, spend a shit ton of "other people's money" and then get asspats. A stark contrast from "This is the guy! He masturbated in front of children!" Although, his continued spending even during bankruptcy proceedings is some next level behavior and if addiction wasn't already apparent, that would have made it obvious.

 

[Akcny]

Imho, no psychologic/ psychiatric disorders are present here.

It's the privileged upbringing and unability to learn from the past mistakes that has brought him to this point.

Pig has obviously had everything to the point, that he ranted about not getting "THE FIGURE". In school parents carried him through it (he had higher grades when home), his father has given him the one job he has ever had, besides racking up the debt to go "pro fighting game player".

Then there is just a biig biig ego. Personally, I would implode if I had to look at my life at 38 in his shoes. So all of "depression" and personality disorders are just not necessary.

He knows he scams people, he knows he masturbated live on stream, he knows he spent more than half of his life sitting in the room and being shitty at games while the success and legacy are: 500k in debt, no friends, shitty marriage, no work experience, shitty face goatee, health in geopardy and he can't do anything alone.

That's the simple reason, why he always needs to suck his own dick and up-play everything he does to these extreme measures. If he didn't, he would really get depressed.

There are moments of clarity, but they are washed away by gin and shitty food. Venting outlet for the anger and disdain he feels for the society is vented by the rants on detractors amongst other things, blaming everyone and everything, because he can't accept being such a failure. Tbh, he fked up in his life to the point, where only few people been.

TL;DR: No diagnoses needed. Just a privileged POS who fuked his life up to the point he has the only option left:
try to hold on to this state, up-play everything he does and suck his own dick extremely, in order to not fall mentally ill from all the failure and anger which creeps on him from all the directions and walks of life. His ego is his self-defense.

EDIT: Forgot to write the point about his social distancing. He isolates himself, since seeing actual regular people would put into perspective, what a piece of trash he is.

I’m shocked his obvious gambling addiction isn‘t being discussed in a psychology discussion thread. The dude is destroying himself financially in pursuit of oily wrestling men jpegs on his phone.

I mean it’s a straight up gambling addiction but what a fucking bizarre one, he can’t even pretend he might get even a cent back from flushing $50k plus down the shitter. And for what? Most gamblers can at least lie to themselves that the “big win” is just around the corner and will fix everything. Phil can’t even use that rationalization. The biggest win he can hope for is just another muscle man which has no value other than clout among his other gatcha addicts on discord.

And he continues to throw money away even as he’s in bankruptcy proceedings.

I don't even think money and mometary rewards are a important matter in his case. With his social status - everybody shitting on him and seeing him as a biggest piece od shit on the internet, I don't doubt that all of this gambling is just a way for him to be respected in some kind of community.
Of course it matters nothing to any regular person, because it's pay to win and the game fucking sucks, but for one of the worst and useless gamers on the internet, it has to be a very VERY rewarding experience ego-wise. He probably never considered the havoc it causes imho.

Useless at everything at life, pays to be someone.

 

[DarkSoulsPhil]

He has an addictive personality. Its probably destroyed his relationship with Pandalee. Coupled with greed it destroyed his friendships, most notably with John Rambo.

I think no one talks about it because its just plainly obvious and a mild symptom of WHY he's a gigantic jackass. He has a whole lot more serious and (professionally) undiagnosed issues that he needs to seek very real CBT for. Which should have been done years ago but its Phil, so you know

 

[Akcny]

He has an addictive personality. Its probably destroyed his relationship with Pandalee. Coupled with greed it destroyed his friendships, most notably with John Rambo.

I think no one talks about it because its just plainly obvious and a mild symptom of WHY he's a gigantic jackass. He has a whole lot more serious and (professionally) undiagnosed issues that he needs to seek very real CBT for. Which should have been done years ago but its Phil, so you know

There should be a distinction between an "issue" and "diagnosis". As fas as I'm concerned, I don't think he is mentally ill or has a crippling personality disorder. I agree with the addictive personality though. It's his fault, he let's his tendencies to fuck up his life. As a addictive personality myself, I have adressed it through the means of self-awareness and self restrain, both of which piggy lacks in full, so I don't feel bad for him at all.

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

This was on the main thread but is better suited here,It was in respondse to TheGoutBurglar saying Phil has no aspirations.

Phil has to be the most intellectually lazy person I have seen,this combined with his narcissism is a terrible combination. He doesnt want to think therefore everything he does is wrong because he is on autopilot and when he does it wrong he doesnt correct himself because in his mind he is amazing and did everything correct. His intellectually laziness is seen is all aspects of life,he doesnt do anything that requires effort or learning ,he only does things that are easy and provide instant gratification therefore has no concept of the future.

He is a machild,deep down he knows it and is insecure about it,that is why he talks about how mature he is every chance he has and does everything in his power to appear mature(wife,sumptuous items,etc.),when I think about maturity I think of things like:
-Emotional maturity
-Ability to delay gratification
-Desire for growth and self improvement

Phil has none of those things,he is content with sitting in his couch just existing and deteriorating,there is no need to grow or improve in any way because he is already perfect and he if wants something he does it and consequences are for future Phil to worry about.
He has no identity because at the end of the day you are what you do and Phil literally does nothing,he just consooms games and media while his wife(who has the intelligence and personality of a box) plays skyrim in another room and his son wanders around the house.Whenever confronted with his pathetic reality and grim future he will lie to himself and everyone else with a easy to disprove and barely coherent string of words.He also has no concept of who he is,Phil is whatever is convenient at the moment and has no relation to his past or present,he lies so much that he has is unable to form a connection with anyone since you cant truly know him and contradicts himself constantly. He is extremely insecure as Rambo said and he is also lazy as fuck. The fact that someone like this exists and has fans willing to give him thousands of dollars is alluring.

I know quoting Nietzsche has been done to death but two quotes apply to Phil: "To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence." (i.e: Phil low IQ lies)

"He who lives as children live -who does not struggle for his bread and does not believe that his actions posses any ultimate significance- remains childlike"

 

[twattycake]

Necroing this thread because autism never sleeps.

Phil does not seem to realize that TV and movies are not how real life works. There's that story he told about trying pot which gave him severe GI issues ("South Park"), the story about how a car crash burnt off half his face ("The Dark Knight"), how Katherine picked out her wedding dress with friends and Phil cried when he saw her in it ("How I Met Your Mother"), and the college party where everybody was super drunk and some butthurt guy cut a water main with a Bowie knife (would have fit well in "Animal House" but I can't think of an exact movie or show where this happened). There are probably more examples but I can't be asked to find them.

These aren't necessarily mutually exclusive but my first two guesses would be the 'tism (he's a complete shut-in and autists have a hard time telling reality from fiction) or narcissism (making things up to cover for his own boring life + expecting anyone to believe this shit, and believing he's entitled to a pet woman).

EDIT: It also cuts a little the other way - he bought the Connectikhando off of his coworker's father in hopes he could get into her pants even though she was already seeing someone. If you tilt your head and squint, this sounds like the plot to a romantic comedy; woman's trying to sell her place, Chad swoops in and takes it off her hands at full price, she ditches her loser boyfriend they live happily ever after. Unfortunately real life does not work that way - actively trying to break up a couple makes you a prick unless one of them is abusive, and even if you ignore that angle the woman may have (gasp!) just wanted to sell the place because she's not constantly thinking about sex.

 

[Red Bistro]

My armchair analysis hinges completely on his compulsive spending habits and denial about WWE Champions. You have this weird self-denial where playing WWE Champions and begging for money and playing a piss-easy game so that he can vlog on Twitch is something he could do right now, and his fans would probably go wild to see him gamble on that game. But he refuses. Why? He's not afraid of admitting he's lied, and no one falls for his lie-by-omission bullshit.

My theory is that he has some amount of self-loathing about the situation he's found himself in. He probably *wants* to resolve that, to just stop lying to everyone and do what he's already doing, but publicly. Just start playing WWE Champions publicly and the whole incongruence goes away! But he can't, because that would mean admitting to himself the reality of his situation. He has a deep shame for his spending addiction, to the point where everyone but him recognizes the ridiculousness of the situation he's in.

He needs to learn to accept himself. That'll make him happier in a thousand ways, but resolving this incongruence between his on-stream persona and the shame he has playing a gatcha game about sweaty men to save his income is probably high up on that priority list.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

My armchair analysis hinges completely on his compulsive spending habits and denial about WWE Champions. You have this weird self-denial where playing WWE Champions and begging for money and playing a piss-easy game so that he can vlog on Twitch is something he could do right now, and his fans would probably go wild to see him gamble on that game. But he refuses. Why? He's not afraid of admitting he's lied, and no one falls for his lie-by-omission bullshit.

My theory is that he has some amount of self-loathing about the situation he's found himself in. He probably *wants* to resolve that, to just stop lying to everyone and do what he's already doing, but publicly. Just start playing WWE Champions publicly and the whole incongruence goes away! But he can't, because that would mean admitting to himself the reality of his situation. He has a deep shame for his spending addiction, to the point where everyone but him recognizes the ridiculousness of the situation he's in.

He needs to learn to accept himself. That'll make him happier in a thousand ways, but resolving this incongruence between his on-stream persona and the shame he has playing a gatcha game about sweaty men to save his income is probably high up on that priority list.

It would mean admitting the detractors were correct though, and that his bankruptcy was fraudulent.

 

[Iamfrigide]

My armchair analysis hinges completely on his compulsive spending habits and denial about WWE Champions. You have this weird self-denial where playing WWE Champions and begging for money and playing a piss-easy game so that he can vlog on Twitch is something he could do right now, and his fans would probably go wild to see him gamble on that game. But he refuses. Why? He's not afraid of admitting he's lied, and no one falls for his lie-by-omission bullshit.

My theory is that he has some amount of self-loathing about the situation he's found himself in. He probably *wants* to resolve that, to just stop lying to everyone and do what he's already doing, but publicly. Just start playing WWE Champions publicly and the whole incongruence goes away! But he can't, because that would mean admitting to himself the reality of his situation. He has a deep shame for his spending addiction, to the point where everyone but him recognizes the ridiculousness of the situation he's in.

He needs to learn to accept himself. That'll make him happier in a thousand ways, but resolving this incongruence between his on-stream persona and the shame he has playing a gatcha game about sweaty men to save his income is probably high up on that priority list.

A lot of his life can be summed up with two thing he doesn't have: Drive and Impulse control.

For all of his publicly documented life, he historically only cared about one thing: Going to the fighting game tournaments. To the point that it put him in crippling debt (that he happened to luck out of because of his newly discovered YouTube windfall). He only got jobs because daddy said "Get a fucking job or get the fuck out" (it's a common tactic for parents that try to sack up, but it almost always lacks teeth). When he couldn't hold down a job, daddy stepped in again and said, "work for me. Keep your mouth shut and do what you're told." Even that wouldn't work.

Then YouTube happened, and he liked how it tasted. He could lay on a couch, point a camera at a tv, and he got paid for it. Paid well. Stupidly well. More money than he'd ever know what to do with. Now any smart person would tell you take what you don't need to survive and invest that shit and live frugally. That's one way to do it, but I don't buy into the whole idea of slog through 40 years of work in the hopes of the possibility of enjoying some of that money you hoarded at the tail end of your life, if you even make it that far. But I also don't advocate spending every fucking cent you have, it's like he has an allergic reaction to money, when he has it, he has to get rid of it. But Phil saw all those zeroes and looked his dad square in the taint and said "fuck you dad, I made it."
And then immediately spent it all.

But that's okay! More kept coming! He kept shitting out videos and money kept coming in. At first he didn't get it. Then he put it together: He's got the personality for it. He's a natural presenter! He's the Rock Fucking Hudson of YouTube! And so for a time, this worked. He would vomit out videos at an alarming pace. Money came in, and he'd buy whatever he wanted, the second he wanted it. Toys? Done. Car to never drive in? Done. Constant take out? Done. Condo to fuck broads in? Done. So now he's got tonnes of debt, few actual assets, and a finite income.

I could go over the whole decline and the engaging with trolls and then the sudden recoil from trolls, and how he fucked himself over again and again and again, but it's all on here.

At that point it became the game of path of least resistance. His income was dwindling, and instead of finding ways to increase his income, he tried to find ways to lower his costs (which is fine, don't get me wrong, either one works). He googled which states have the lowest income taxes, picked WA, and stopped looking into it then and there. His 'tax attorney' in CT said "hey buddy, keep forking over that cash and I'll keep you covered over in WA, too." Phil, already rubbing his back from all that googling gave him a thumbs up. So instead of dealing with his property in CT, which, to be fair, was a hefty kick in the balls for him with the crash, packed up and fled across the country. In his mind, not having to pay as much income tax would mean more money in his pocket! The problem would fix itself and he could go back to the way things were. A no-brainer!

But they didn't. The downhill trend continued, but so did the spending and the habits. He tasted the good life and going back just wasn't a thing he was open to. He had to keep his hoard, without giving up a single thing, while not changing because he wasn't the problem.

And now, that trend has put him exactly where he is today, massively spending every single cent that comes in on himself, bankrupt, losing the condo in CT, lying to a group of people that have maybe a single brain cell to share between the lot of them, failing health and body, a marriage that's been bleached of anything resembling affection and is more a pact based on mutual destruction/survival.

Behold: The successful business man, with an adult business degree.

 

[twattycake]

I know quoting Nietzsche has been done to death but two quotes apply to Phil: "To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence." (i.e: Phil low IQ lies)

"He who lives as children live -who does not struggle for his bread and does not believe that his actions posses any ultimate significance- remains childlike"

This is interesting and makes me think it's why his audience is so special. Part of Phil's lolcowdom is how he treats obnoxious but easy adult responsibilities (bills, cleaning the house, cooking dinner) like some Herculean task and puts in tons of effort to avoid growing up. Now if we look at his fans, they mostly fall into two groups:

1) Literal retards and children. Sidella and Papavera are confirmed to be autistic, and Derich is like 15 if I remember correctly. These people actually believe Phil's boomer rants about how hard being a serious adult is because they're also too inept to function. So they can really relate to his struggle in a way that normies can't, and his weird sort-of success might even be an example or goal for them. This would also explain why the wheelchairs are so defensive of Phil and hostile to us dang dirty trolls, somebody on the main Pig thread mentioned that disabled people are an incredibly tight-knit group in a way you don't really see elsewhere and we're seeing that here.
2) Other weirdo manchildren (I'm counting the sexual deviants in here as well). They probably have to work a boring job that they not so secretly hate, but they can live vicariously through Phil by propping up his NEETdom and general avoidance of basic responsibility. If they were sure it'd pan out I'm sure most of them would happily trade places with him tomorrow.

 

[Trappin in the Trap]

2) Other weirdo manchildren (I'm counting the sexual deviants in here as well). They probably have to work a boring job that they not so secretly hate, but they can live vicariously through Phil by propping up his NEETdom and general avoidance of basic responsibility. If they were sure it'd pan out I'm sure most of them would happily trade places with him tomorrow.

There's something interesting in that because how openly Phil seems to hate most of the games he plays. He treats playing games like a 9 to 5 job, even back when he was on YT, whenever he did something dumb or a sitewide change was made, he acted like YT was his manager and cried to them, now he just does that with his fans. He wants to get all the tools to make his business good without putting in any of the extra work that other streamers who have far more claim to being a business do. If your work computer is malfunctioning, you call IT or something. If Phil's work computer is malfunctioning, he'll ask his viewers what do. Do you think that they somehow resonate with watching a guy complain about his job the same way they would?

 

[DZoomer]

One thing that got me thinking recently was how Phil seems to have some odd fascination with coprophagy, or anything scatological in nature really.

Just think of how many times he says weird expressions like "shitty tits/dicks", or how common it is for him to insult people by asking them to "suck a turd right out of my ass".

I don't know if I'm being a faggot here, but those expressions and insults are so disgusting and repulsive that I'd personally never use them, but Phil seems to be ecstatic whenever he gets to use his nauseating vocabulary.

Anyway, just pointing out something that I've never seen being discussed. I wonder if Phil, being the pig he is, is into weird shit like scat, or if that's just a manifestation of his infantile psyche. It is after all a very common thing on kids, to have a disgusting vocabulary to shock adults.

 

[Schmeckel]

Spot. Fucking. On.

 

[Wurstbrot]

As if he described DSP to the teeth without walking around corners, this is a straight up description of what you see every single day.
I laughed out loud when he said "they think in Black and White, Right and Wrong".

 

[Iamfrigide]

One thing that got me thinking recently was how Phil seems to have some odd fascination with coprophagy, or anything scatological in nature really.

Just think of how many times he says weird expressions like "shitty tits/dicks", or how common it is for him to insult people by asking them to "suck a turd right out of my ass".

I don't know if I'm being a faggot here, but those expressions and insults are so disgusting and repulsive that I'd personally never use them, but Phil seems to be ecstatic whenever he gets to use his nauseating vocabulary.

Anyway, just pointing out something that I've never seen being discussed. I wonder if Phil, being the pig he is, is into weird shit like scat, or if that's just a manifestation of his infantile psyche. It is after all a very common thing on kids, to have a disgusting vocabulary to shock adults.

He's not into scat. I promise you that the four times he's ever had sex have been so vanilla and mind numbingly boring that ice cream could take lessons.

It's a leftover from the formation of his online persona, he saw Angry Video Game Nerd, saw that it made him famous, and slapped some carbon paper all over it. He's 'grown' out of the 'edgy' things like saying fag and nigger and stomp the Jews (read: he can't afford to get banned from any platforms and/or get cancelled). He feels safe with the shit wordplay because it's enough to get the kids to laugh at the fat man saying shit, but not enough to get him in trouble.

So no. No shitplay for ol' piggie. The kinkiest thing he's ever done doggy style. Maybe raw dogging, because you know that fat piece of shit is too cheap for condoms and too lazy to put one on his two inch titan.

 

[Cistern Rumbler]

He's not into scat. I promise you that the four times he's ever had sex have been so vanilla and mind numbingly boring that ice cream could take lessons.

It's a leftover from the formation of his online persona, he saw Angry Video Game Nerd, saw that it made him famous, and slapped some carbon paper all over it. He's 'grown' out of the 'edgy' things like saying fag and nigger and stomp the Jews (read: he can't afford to get banned from any platforms and/or get cancelled). He feels safe with the shit wordplay because it's enough to get the kids to laugh at the fat man saying shit, but not enough to get him in trouble.

So no. No shitplay for ol' piggie. The kinkiest thing he's ever done doggy style. Maybe raw dogging, because you know that fat piece of shit is too cheap for condoms and too lazy to put one on his two inch titan.

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