Three Shortages. What Gives? - Aluminium Cans, Coins, and Lumber.

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The Can Shortage has been well documented. I've seen it at work. I'm seeing our Can lines run more than I have in 10-15 years where we would just crank out 200k+ cases a day. https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...r-soda-coca-cola-pepsico-covid-19/5443308002/ My Old Man bitched to me about why he couldn't buy Caffeine Free Coke Cans anymore 2 months before I saw this IRL. Now I'm seeing us bringing in Can Stacks from fucking Brazil. The Local Ball plant can't keep up with demand. Every one is at home drinking cans? Hell the trend for the last 10 years was everyone wanted their own bottle, and cap. Now Back to Cans? I get 20oz demand down since that is largely driven from Gas Stations, but Can Demand? We are at Can Demand that reflect Thanksgiving levels.

Coin Shortage? Fuck I have not a clue. My first guess was declining transactions, but wouldn't that leave all the change in the bank? Same for rise in electronic Transactions. I traveled in May and it was the first time I was using actual currency in months. Since then, I haven't used actual currency. So why a Coin Shortage? I just don't get that one.

Ok the last one is Lumber. Why are we having a crazy shit in the pressure treated lumber market? It's got to be Home Builder Demand driving that. They are the only ones that could stomach that price shock. So that's a neg interest thing?1! I dunno. I think it's desperation

I think we are in for one hell of a crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dshtegldnPo
 

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Wait, there's a shortage in aluminum soda cans? Really?

Does this explain why Costco hasn't had cases of Diet Mountain Dew recently? Um, not that I'd be the kind of person to buy that garbage by the case. Just something I noticed.

They haven't had cases of their store-brand flavored carbonated water either.

Anyway, so long as there are no asshole government policies in the way, supply will meet demand for cans and lumber eventually, just as happened with hand sanitizer and coof masks. Not sure what can be done about the coin issue without literally printing money, though. As someone who still uses cash for most day-to-day purchases, it's been annoying to periodically see a store with "exact change only" signs on the register.
 

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One possible contributor to a surge in demand for aluminum cans is that a lot of breweries that were supplying bars as their main income stream (and consequently mostly trafficked their product in kegs) had to switch to packaging their beer to sell directly to customers during the lockdown. Canning is both cheaper and far more accessible to your average brewery than bottling.
 

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I was unaware of the lumber shortage, but saw a news article claiming there's apparently a pepperoni shortage?

Cans is inexplicable, and I honestly don't get the change shortage.

Locally I've mostly been seeing shortages in fruits, fruit related products (like juice) and cleaning supplies.
 

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I was unaware of the lumber shortage, but saw a news article claiming there's apparently a pepperoni shortage?

Cans is inexplicable, and I honestly don't get the change shortage.

Locally I've mostly been seeing shortages in fruits, fruit related products (like juice) and cleaning supplies.
The coin shortage is a combination of IRL retail being way down due to coronavirus, and several mints being offline for the same reason, per the US Treasury Dept.
 

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Wait, there's a shortage in aluminum soda cans? Really?

Does this explain why Costco hasn't had cases of Diet Mountain Dew recently? Um, not that I'd be the kind of person to buy that garbage by the case. Just something I noticed.

From talking to our Pepsi rep a little while back, they've been cutting back on the flavor selection they've been canning to ensure having the can supply for the popular flavors. Which ones are being canned might depend on the plant handling your specific area, but, at least locally, it meant cutting out Pepsi 0, Diet Mt. Dew and a few other flavors. Most of them are still in 2 liters and 20 oz. bottles, but the cans aren't available right now.

The demand is usually lower for cans after summer and before Thanksgiving, so we'll see if they start with the other flavors after then.
 

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The lumber market got really weird back in May and June. Wholesalers just stopped buying lumber so the sawmills had to stop sawing. It started with the hardwood mills because all the furniture factories were shutdown. For some reason it happened with softwoods in June.
 

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theres a meat shortage
.havent gotten any headcheese or headcheese like products since corona.

Processed meats have been an issue for several months: sausages, bacon, ham. Really, most all deli meats, though pork and chicken have been more impacted than beef and turkey. It's getting back on track, but the more specialized products (like headcheese) are still lagging behind. Bacon's also still an issue; we can get it, but selection is all over the place in terms of brands and varieties, as the warehouses run out of one just as another comes back in stock.
 

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Coin shortage is because they stopped up the system.

The usual cycle is that people can deposit coins at the bank, the bank rolls them up and distributes them to retailers, retailers then exchange coins with customers until everyone has a tidy collection of spare change that they can exchange for real cash/numbers.

Without the bank lobbies being open and able to accept coins (the pneumatic tubes aren't designed for coins), everyone is hoarding coins, so less to go to retailers, less to exchange to customers.
 

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There's been a rubber glove shortage all year, too. Harbor Freight wants like $18 for a single box of 50 9mil gloves.
If you can (like for general COVID hygiene) use washable cloth gloves. Buy a 10-pack of work gloves, wear them to the store, wash at home.

otherwise, yeah. The prices are bad. Check into online bulk distributors. If you have an 'in' with an industrial distributor, you can buy at 1/10th of the Big Box cost.
(example: Grainger, McMaster-Carr, etc...)
You can also get piles of toliet paper. CHEAP.
 
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There's also a mealworm shortage apparently. I found that out last Saturday at the wildlife clinic, there was a note in the baby bird room instructing volunteers to be careful with how many worms we dish out to our birds. I don't know what's going on in the world to make that happen.

With the coin shortage I've tried to give exact change everywhere I've shopped, I don't imagine giving the candy store my extra quarters will fix the whole shortage but whatever helps!
 

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Coin shortage is because they stopped up the system.

The usual cycle is that people can deposit coins at the bank, the bank rolls them up and distributes them to retailers, retailers then exchange coins with customers until everyone has a tidy collection of spare change that they can exchange for real cash/numbers.

Without the bank lobbies being open and able to accept coins (the pneumatic tubes aren't designed for coins), everyone is hoarding coins, so less to go to retailers, less to exchange to customers.
They Closed the SF mint this year... And I agree with the Tin foil hat aspect. Once they get you into a cashless society, the government can track everything you do, your spending habits, where you travel, where you work, who you deal with. And so on.

Can shortage is because recycling places are closed due to the coof. Rubber is people gouging of the system.
I know this to be true because I've seen it with my own eyes. Got 80 pounds of cans and I can't take it anywhere where I live.

As they say, you can get rich when there is misery around.
 
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