Touched by a lolcow - Angel tarot readings -

[neelyky]

So, I don’t know about this one, I really don’t; I was going to start it off like this . . .

Who are we? Where are we going? Is there a greater purpose or meaning to our lives? Is there a correct way to live? These questions have troubled the greatest minds of philosophers from Socrates to Schopenhauer, but now an answer has been found: many problems; one answer: angels.

Fucking angels.

https://www.angeluniversity.com/index.html

Every question you’ve ever had finally answered, every doubt in your mind finally settled, and the path to the righteous life finally signposted by a $950.00 DVD telling you how to shuffle cards and then cold-read them for strangers.

https://www.angeluniversity.com/store/p2/Angel_Therapy_Practitioner_Program.html (which is an absolute bargain at $50 off right now).

If you’re thinking that nobody would ever buy into this bullshit let alone enrol in any of the courses then allow to introduce the lolcow that drew me into this particular herd: Cindy St-Martine.

Now Cindy’s clearly either cuckoo or a scam-artist on a par with the actor that plays the part of Jace Connors, but I honestly think her heart’s in the right place. Am I going soft on her? She’s clearly more bat than belfry but deserving of :A-log: level animosity? It seems harsh, maybe more sympathy at getting scammed into some new-age Christian theology.

Or am I just pussying out of some lols? I was going to ask her during her next web reading how my friend Chris’s legal troubles were going to work out, but weens could make this just unpleasant.

I honestly don’t know.

Luckily though youtube is teeming with other tarot twats, none of whom seem as vulnerable as Cindy St-Martine, viz:

For those of you who would prefer a less-structured learning environment than the ivy league Angel University there are private workshops being offered at Ragdale Hall

There’s the . . . flamboyant Drew Barker (that’s not homophobic, I’m queer myself, but goddam if he doesn’t sound like Mr Slave from South Park)

And Tarot Wonderland (the worst theme park in the world)

Amongst many others.

So, am I being a pussy about it? Or A-logging hard over other people’s beliefs? I’ve been listening to Christian eschatology and angel-tarot readings in the background as I worked all day so my lolcow balance is probably off-kilter.

 

[nad7155]

Here is a similar one.

http://www.angeltherapy.com

https://www.youtube.com/user/4AngelTherapy/videos

So, am I being a pussy about it? Or A-logging hard over other people’s beliefs?

Nope.

These people either are delusional, or more likely just common scam artists.

Just like that Reiki/Healing Touch nonsense where you take classes to get some supernatural healing ability.

But, a fool and his money...

 

[Red_Rager]

How to become a Tarot Card reader.
Step 1. Pick a tarot deck that speaks to you. On amazon.com type in "Tarot Cards" and pick your poison.
The Rider Waite is considered a good first Tarot Deck.
http://www.amazon.com/Rider-Tarot-A...=1424126773&sr=1-1&keywords=rider+white+tarot
Step 2. Find a good tutorial on how to do tarot readings. There are lots of place online (free) on how to start your readings. It is all about using your own intuition, also known as bullshitting. The pictures and cards themselves do not have meaning until you assign them one. Some people do have very good insight with guidence provided by the tarot.

There is nothing mystical about tarot cards, I find them to be a good too for introspection and force myself to look at a situation from another perspective. It you think there is any Truth provided by the cards, hah! It all comes from within you and what you want to see or what your reader interprets what you need to know. There is no need to spend $900.00-$950.00 on learning how to bullshit.

 

[Ouija Board]

Umm.. I'm going to go ahead and say that I do believe in psychics and the paranormal but usually not people like this. I know some psychics in my area and they don't go out of their way to profit from their abilities. I have a couple of tarot card decks myself, and a pendulum and hoping to get a ouija board, so go ahead and call me crazy . One thing though is that I tend to rationalize things before jumping into "it's totally supernatural!" if I experience anything.

But I totally despise people like this that rip off people, especially for an exorbitant amount like $1000. I've had ones that I worked with that actually would negotiate for something other than money.

 

[EI 903]

Too bad peppy isn't here anymore. He could have told us so much about tarot.

 

[neelyky]

Too bad peppy isn't here anymore. He could have told us so much about tarot.

Who was peppy? I've not been here all that long. I tried searching for him but all I could see was that people kept missing him.

 

[EI 903]

Who was peppy? I've not been here all that long. I tried searching for him but all I could see was that people kept missing him.

A beloved former member who stays in regular contact with Null but doesn't post here anymore.

 

[XYZpdq]

I've wanted to be an angel therapist but the certification test's a total bitch to pass.

 

[Twelvebar]

So, long time lurker, first time poster. Also professional tarot reader.

It's hard to decide what to make of this. I mean, the people I work with are all their own kind of crazy, myself included, and more than a few of them specialize in angel-themed readings which are very popular in conservative areas. To that end, there's really nothing wrong with believing in your craft, so long as you're using it responsibly- generally we pull in more working as entertainers than as therapists, but we try really hard to be passable therapists too. Like Red_Rager said, I find it's better to approach it as more of an opportunity to provide introspection and alternate perspectives than a spooky spirit party, but then, the guy at the table next to mine a few nights ago was helping people communicate with their dead relatives and they were moved to tears of joy over it, so I mean, you gotta leave some wiggle room for the fact that people believe some out-there stuff and they're happier for doing so.

Asking for a thousand dollars to be trained by an experienced reader is, yes, ludicrously expensive and reeks of snake oil. I got my start with a $20 Rider deck, a costume pieced together from thrift stores, and the free, free internet.

On the other hand, within a year of that purchase, I'd made enough from reading at parties to pay for that Angel Therapy lesson a few times over. If "tuition" for them entails their endorsement and gets you a job, one can argue it's not actually even a terrible investment. People pay more for a bachelor's degree in art history.

I sure wouldn't recommend it, but chances are anybody who's into it enough to make that purchase is actually probably gonna see that money come back...

 

[Jozef]

Tarot cards eh? Just print up a bunch of cards with random pictures on them, make up something relevant on the spot, and you've got a million dollar racket. I can't tell who's a bigger lolcow; the scam artists who read tarot cards, or the people who believe in it.
God, the tooth fairy, baba yaga, it's all fairytales.

 

[Konstantinos]

950.00 dollars, eh? What a steal! Kind of reminds me of this one part from Space Funeral:

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Fucking angels.

I thought you meant that it was about literally doing so for a moment...

 

[XYZpdq]

Tarot cards eh? Just print up a bunch of cards with random pictures on them, make up something relevant on the spot, and you've got a million dollar racket. I can't tell who's a bigger lolcow; the scam artists who read tarot cards, or the people who believe in it.
God, the tooth fairy, baba yaga, it's all fairytales.

then how'd they film her hut smart guy

 

[Surtur]

Tarot cards eh? Just print up a bunch of cards with random pictures on them, make up something relevant on the spot, and you've got a million dollar racket. I can't tell who's a bigger lolcow; the scam artists who read tarot cards, or the people who believe in it.
God, the tooth fairy, baba yaga, it's all fairytales.

Ow, the edge.

 

[For The Internet]

Cindy St-Martine is an eerie Paula Abdul soundalike. That's all I've got. Not really a believer in tarot at all, personally, and certainly not in angels.

 

[Surtur]

So, long time lurker, first time poster. Also professional tarot reader.

It's hard to decide what to make of this. I mean, the people I work with are all their own kind of crazy, myself included, and more than a few of them specialize in angel-themed readings which are very popular in conservative areas. To that end, there's really nothing wrong with believing in your craft, so long as you're using it responsibly- generally we pull in more working as entertainers than as therapists, but we try really hard to be passable therapists too. Like Red_Rager said, I find it's better to approach it as more of an opportunity to provide introspection and alternate perspectives than a spooky spirit party, but then, the guy at the table next to mine a few nights ago was helping people communicate with their dead relatives and they were moved to tears of joy over it, so I mean, you gotta leave some wiggle room for the fact that people believe some out-there stuff and they're happier for doing so.

Asking for a thousand dollars to be trained by an experienced reader is, yes, ludicrously expensive and reeks of snake oil. I got my start with a $20 Rider deck, a costume pieced together from thrift stores, and the free, free internet.

On the other hand, within a year of that purchase, I'd made enough from reading at parties to pay for that Angel Therapy lesson a few times over. If "tuition" for them entails their endorsement and gets you a job, one can argue it's not actually even a terrible investment. People pay more for a bachelor's degree in art history.

I sure wouldn't recommend it, but chances are anybody who's into it enough to make that purchase is actually probably gonna see that money come back...

Right, ordering a tarot deck right now, I want in on this scam.

 

[XYZpdq]

Right, ordering a tarot deck right now, I want in on this scam.

From what I've seen being "psychic" means a lot of middle aged women with no friends ramble to you about their stupid problems. It's not all goodwill costumes and fun.

 

[Surtur]

From what I've seen being "psychic" means a lot of middle aged women with no friends ramble to you about their stupid problems. It's not all goodwill costumes and fun.

Their money spends just as well as any other.

 

[For The Internet]

I have to admit I've always pretty much thought psychics are all either deliberately playing people like magicians (or in some cases, straight up con artists) or a bit deluded. I don't mean any offense to any of the posters here, especially since you're saying there's nothing supernatural about what you do, but Twelvebar, why would you need a costume if you're just reading tarot cards as some kind of neat trick at parties? Seems like you'd only need a costume if you're representing yourself as a character. I'm genuinely curious. How do you present yourselves to clients? Are you upfront that it's not supernatural at all, or do they think there's some kind of divine power being channeled?

It seems a bit ill-advised to be to act as therapists when you don't have training, it seems to me the people who get 'closure' from psychics are very desperate people who need grief counseling. Do you feel it's a bit irresponsible when people charge grieving folks?

 

[EI 903]

Right, ordering a tarot deck right now, I want in on this scam.

You can get custom decks made for dirt cheap. I put together and ordered a nerd deck of just the major cards as a project one night when I was bored. It was fun looking into the mythology surrounding each card and trying to pick a character I liked that fit.

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