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Because straight TIMs are fetishists and can just escalate to keep the dopamine flowing and the coom cooming. And gay TIMs are generally completely dysfunctional sex workers who are so flamboyant nobody could tell if they detransed because they’re perceived as a flaming gay black guy regardless.

TIFs are usually just non-NT, depressed, traumatized, gay, etc. There’s really nothing they can do to keep the good feels coming as they age and the world loses interest. The only ones who stay happy are the ones who have made their career out of it. You find that more with TIMs but the TIFs like Strangio or the few FTMs who get by in porn seem less likely to desist.

But the average molested autistic teenage girl who gets pushed by the cult into hacking off her boobs just ends up fat, stupider by 10 IQ points, in ever-worsening health, and ignored after she follows cult instructions. TIMs like slender underage TIFs with boobs, not fat mutilated weirdos, and TIMs run the cult. No use whatsoever for sad fat mutilated adult TIFs questioning why all their problems weren’t solved and why they have so many new ones.
 

Alec Benson Leary

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And then there was the fact I was attracted to girls… and I just didn't know anybody who was lesbian."
This shit right here is very important. young confused kids are either allowed to be gay or pressured into transitioning seems capriciously dependent on whatever political pandering is common at that time.

I'm friends with a butch lesbian in her late 40s. Fits every stereotype you're thinking, and she'll tell you the struggle of coming out as a teen in the 80s. But she'll also tell you that she sees a lot of modern teenage girls who are clearly butch lesbians the same exact way she was, wearing boy clothes and short hair and the like, and she sees a ton of pressure in these social circles on those girls going "no you're gender non-conforming, you're trans". And while she faced plenty of homophobia growing up of course, she also feels fortunate that she grew up in a time when she didn't have to face that progressive pressure because - in her words - at least the bigots in her youth didn't pretend to be on her side to get under her guard and manipulate her.

I've never seen more transparent evidence that the trans movement fetishizes the same shallow gender roles that all their progressive allies supposedly denounce. When I was a kid the message was if you're a boy who plays with dolls it's okay because toys don't define your identity. Now a confused girl puts on a pair of boy's Levi's and suddenly we have to send her to the troon reeducation camp.
 

Amber the Hedgehog

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This shit right here is very important. young confused kids are either allowed to be gay or pressured into transitioning seems capriciously dependent on whatever political pandering is common at that time.

I'm friends with a butch lesbian in her late 40s. Fits every stereotype you're thinking, and she'll tell you the struggle of coming out as a teen in the 80s. But she'll also tell you that she sees a lot of modern teenage girls who are clearly butch lesbians the same exact way she was, wearing boy clothes and short hair and the like, and she sees a ton of pressure in these social circles on those girls going "no you're gender non-conforming, you're trans". And while she faced plenty of homophobia growing up of course, she also feels fortunate that she grew up in a time when she didn't have to face that progressive pressure because - in her words - at least the bigots in her youth didn't pretend to be on her side to get under her guard and manipulate her.

I've never seen more transparent evidence that the trans movement fetishizes the same shallow gender roles that all their progressive allies supposedly denounce. When I was a kid the message was if you're a boy who plays with dolls it's okay because toys don't define your identity. Now a confused girl puts on a pair of boy's Levi's and suddenly we have to send her to the troon reeducation camp.
I will have to say I find this “I didn’t know anyone lesbian” thing so wierd. Not with older people, with them it makes enough sense, but young lesbians say to same thing too so often. You grew up with internet and social media, it’s extremely easy to find homosexual contacts and content even if you didn’t want to. Homophobia isn’t cool any more and never targeted lesbians that heavily anyway. So why is lesbianism such crisis thing so often for these girls? And why are so lesbian role models is their answer?

I’m bi, I didn’t have any bi role models and never felt I need that eather. When I was a teen and figuring my sexuality out was confused and all that stuff of course but that was kinda it. Soon as I figured out I was interested into boys and girls, and bringing it up outside of dating was not great idea, I was fine. What I have talked with homosexual men, it was pretty much same for them too. Figuring out they were into men and how to go about coming out where the biggest issues. They didn’t feel much need for homosexual role models, quite frankly good gay porn was bigger deal. Seeing a cool gay was kind kinda neet but not much more. Why is this so different with lesbians?
 

remiem

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And while she faced plenty of homophobia growing up of course, she also feels fortunate that she grew up in a time when she didn't have to face that progressive pressure because - in her words - at least the bigots in her youth didn't pretend to be on her side to get under her guard and manipulate her.
That's really what it boils down too. They've made this into a cult and like a cult it's so malicious and devious but only those not taken in can see that. The ones inside the cult don't- they feel it's safe, because the world outside is hard but in the end the cult is far more dangerous. Instead of helping they're just trying to get more people to join, to spread the message.

Troonism is basically a twisted Multi-Level Marketing Scheme where only a select few benefit and everyone else tries, suffers, but keeps thinking if they work a little harder they'll make it too.

I will have to say I find this “I didn’t know anyone lesbian” thing so wierd. Not with older people, with them it makes enough sense, but young lesbians say to same thing too so often. You grew up with internet and social media, it’s extremely easy to find homosexual contacts and content even if you didn’t want to. Homophobia isn’t cool any more and never targeted lesbians that heavily anyway. So why is lesbianism such crisis thing so often for these girls? And why are so lesbian role models is their answer?
Gays on the internet tend to be crazy. Lesbians especially can get absolutely ballistic when you find groups of them online. It's not so much that they don't know anyone whose a lesbian so much that the ones they find tend to not be nice people. The don't want end up sucked into the negativity, forced to conform to the online lesbian persona, or they run into the absolute tsunami of MTF troons who're immediately down their throats for being transphobic for not wanting to suck girl dick. Normal lesbians don't tend to hang out online or you wouldn't know because they'll just frequent places devoted to their hobbies and interests, not spend all their time espousing their sexuality.

They want a normal person who just happens to be a lesbian as a role model because it gives them a vague idea of a plan, how to live their life and actually be happy. That sort of thing. Not having someone who can provide a rough draft and only finding insanity when you go looking for online resources can be polarizing. They get this idea that 'being a man who likes women' would be easier.

^Why does it always seem to be FtMs that regret transitioning and not MtFs?
I wrote a comment about this before but it's probably lost in my history. Generally it's because

1. testosterone negatively effects females much more than Estrogen effects males. They're still female, the same as a MTF is a man, which means when those negative effects start kicking in suddenly the idea of being a man isn't so appealing. You want to watch a woman go from happy and healthy to absolutely soul crushingly depressed? hair loss. Which will usually be triggered by testosterone. The idea of being male is appealing right up until the changes start. Just look at Milo Stuart, although she was certainly a trender imo- her feelings and reaction are exactly what happens to a lot of women who start on the path of transition. Start seeing effects, ruin yourself, realize what you've done, panic, stop.

2. Because females tend to having a nesting instinct. Women have the capacity to be mothers. It's not something you can just turn off, no matter what you do- it's literally written into the DNA of a female. Even in people who don't want children they still develop this desire to settle down, have stability, have comfort, have a home, etc. These wants become more pronounced as you age.

and 3. A lot of FTM trans people tend to have psychological/social issues that spur the start of their transition. Mental Illness, sexual abuse, autism, their brother was favorited over them, terrible parents / home life. That they were unable to find a treatment for or a way to alleviate it. They get this idea that they have to strictly conform to some made up concept of womanhood and thus see the idea of switching sexes as a way to relieve the pressure- when in reality it's often because they just generally feel like outsiders in life because there's something about them that other people can pick up as not normal and they themselves are just aware enough to notice. Or they have family that doesn't have a grasp of what they're struggling with. Etc. When transitioning doesn't fix their issues and then coupled with point number one & two suddenly their experiencing massive cognitive dissonance- I am still a woman after all, this was a mistake.

Finally, anecdotally, I've seen quite a few FTM who ceased transition because they left their tiny home town, started to live outside the internet, and met a partner. Literally the biggest cliche I've even seen but having love, acceptance, and getting away from everything you know gives them a perspective that says you don't need to imitate the other sex to be happy, being a female whose not peak 1950s's housewife is totally fine.
 

Nykysnottrans

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LMAO, now the SJW trans activists are using slashes to avoid having to spell out "Kiwi Farms" on Twitter:

love to exist in the public consciousness as a loose collection of traumas and arguments and selfies and partisanism!! what side were you on in the vloofie vore vs. bangie's lolcow k/iw/i/far/ms thread????*

*i made this up its not a real thing
Bitches, I know you come over here to lurk. We're like your secret porn stash that you can't stop yourself from looking at. Stop being hypocrites about it. Admit you lurk at Kiwi Farms. Spell the name of the site fully and openly instead of using slashes like a coward.
 

AnOminous

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^Why does it always seem to be FtMs that regret transitioning and not MtFs?
Because they're more likely to have been doing it to escape horrifying trauma, as opposed to males doing it to get off.

You grew up with internet and social media, it’s extremely easy to find homosexual contacts and content even if you didn’t want to.
Except now it will be an online tranny cult that will immediately try to indoctrinate you into trooning out, viciously abusing your trauma to do it.
 

pwnest injun

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i think another contributing factor to acceptance of MtF over FtM is just plain 'ol sexism. A male troon was never much use to anyone and useless men are easily ignored. A female who sterilizes herself and cuts off her boobs is useless and useless women are despised.
IMO, the difference comes from the Men's Rights movement that's tied into the TIM half of the equation. No one cares if a female wants to cut her hair short, wear flannels and cargo pants and exist in the World of Men. That's the fight that Women's Lib 100% won, years ago. However, on the male side of things, if a guy wants to wear a dress, or cut their hair a certain way, or be a homemaker or just be in the World of Women, then it's a problem.

This discrepancy is worth recognizing. If all these AGP brainlets weren't busy sniffing their sister's panties, they could make a good case for men to live in a feminine way, without being cast out of society. But they don't want society to accept them as feminine men, but to twist and contort itself to see them as actual women, because that's what their madness demands. Their madness demands that they be female, that they have always been girls, and it won't accept any other outcome.
 
FtM are always neurotic navel gazing self absorbed histrionics, a flip of a coin and they'd be full blown TERFs/2nd wave RadFems.

Anyway, The Guardian has a popular 'blind date' series they've ran for years, lesbian gets set up with MtF troon, this has upset the TERFs:

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They both look as unpleasant as each other tbh...

Angry terves:
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But wait, the 'handmaiden' lesbian strikes back in the replies:
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ideology or Stockholm Syndrome....

See this is where the TERFs loose me, as sympathetic as I am to their cause (the TE bit), this hysterical, histrionic carry on:
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People get 'traumatized' by car crashes, war, mortal danger. Not having to make awkward small talk with a creepy man in a dress for a few hours or even just blowing him off when you see what he is.

Almost every TERF is a failed FtM troon and a vice versa.

Also this:
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Lissamine Green

Spiteful Chicken Eater
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FtM are always neurotic navel gazing self absorbed histrionics, a flip of a coin and they'd be full blown TERFs/2nd wave RadFems.

Anyway, The Guardian has a popular 'blind date' series they've ran for years, lesbian gets set up with MtF troon, this has upset the TERFs:

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They both look as unpleasant as each other tbh...

Angry terves:
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But wait, the 'handmaiden' lesbian strikes back in the replies:
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ideology or Stockholm Syndrome....

See this is where the TERFs loose me, as sympathetic as I am to their cause (the TE bit), this hysterical, histrionic carry on:
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People get 'traumatized' by car crashes, war, mortal danger. Not having to make awkward small talk with a creepy man in a dress for a few hours or even just blowing him off when you see what he is.

Almost every TERF is a failed FtM troon and a vice versa.

Also this:
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I can't believe I'm saying this but...I am not 100% sure which one is which.

That's not a comment on how well the troon passes so much as it is a comment on British lezzers, really.

Oh, there's the Adam's apple. Ok. I did guess that was the guy. But it was a close thing.
 

3119967d0c

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^Why does it always seem to be FtMs that regret transitioning and not MtFs?
My read on it would be that males, whatever their motivation, generally gave up little in making their 'transition'.
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The late transitioning autogynophiles who get off on the idea of being a bimboified woman, from being lecherous towards women as a 'lesbian'? In any civilized society, they would be losing something. In modern America, these CEOs.. staff officers.. athletes have already sowed their seed and often have grown children. Having had the best of it as men, they are then free to engage in their disgusting fetish and shove it in everyone else's face.

The kind who want to be fucked like a woman by a man? If they hadn't sterilized themselves, that wouldn't make any difference to their life outcomes. As for the likes of Chris-chan.. that should be pretty obvious.

But the FtM's? At some point, whatever their actual sexual orientation might be, they are going to wake up and realize that they have lost the opportunity to have and love children of their own, whether because their hormones have been irreparably disrupted, or simply because they wasted the best years of their lives and the peak years of their fertility on insanity. True, some women don't care about that, but most do, and their plight is a sad and tragic thing.
 
Don't know if anyone's been following the Evergreen State College protest/riot on Benjamin Boyce's channel, (lots of troon madness involved).
Anyway here are two of the main troons from that doing what troons seem to do best, gate crashing other people's formal meetings and screeching about their insane BS.
Not entirely sure what wanders into shot at 1:05...

I get real Deja Vu from this, how many times have you seen this exact situation documented here and other places. Serious meeting/debate and then enter angry MtF troons (usually 'TWOCs') shut everything down and make everyone listen to their incoherent, hysterical demands.

Always intransigent and drunk on their sense of victimhood/power it's granted them.
(actually maybe not too different from real women after all... 🤔)
 

AnOminous

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I get real Deja Vu from this, how many times have you seen this exact situation documented here and other places. Serious meeting/debate and then enter angry MtF troons (usually 'TWOCs') shut everything down and make everyone listen to their incoherent, hysterical demands.
Over and over and over again. Online or offline, a group of normal people actually doing something productive is disrupted by a troon jumping in and being absolutely nothing but an insane, destructive presence. All actual work instantly stops and the whole thing is now about the troon. Until you get rid of the troon, forget the group ever being even remotely functional again.
 
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