i'd hazard the theory that most of them don't even want to fuck gay men as much as they want the power of decrying "bigotry towards them" and being virulently and triumphantly homophobic.
i remember the account of a pre-all-op transman invited to a gay orgy, and how rejected she felt, and it made her feel embarassed, self-conscious, and miserable. i'd posit that'd be the reaction of a true believer of being a For Real Gay when rejected by the for real gays. they wouldn't be catty and slur-dropping and insistent gay men are obligated to fuck them, they'd be quiet and ashamed about being rejected.
white gen z yaoiboi gaydens, however, the as-far-as-i-can-tell massive majority of the boxer-ceiling-kill-all-fags twitcourse, generally only date the other gaydens.
again i feel it's helpful to define this with japanese fetishry, as japs have been so repressed for so long that their sexual and paraphiliac fantasies have resolved into a catalogue of distinct and specific genres. in particular, i'd posit the gayden phenomenon as the intersection of class s pseudo-lesbianism and the consumption of yaoi, both phenomenons the japanese associate with phases of teenage girls.
both class s relationships and yaoi have very little to do with actual homosexuality. i'd say they're basically safe spaces for pubescent girls to explore romantic intimacy and sexual desire in a way that doesn't involve the daunting interaction with real boys. the appeal of yaoi in particular is as far as i can understand a sexual fantasy that's safer for them because it has nothing to do with their own bodies, allowing them to disconnect from their own discomforts and complexes over their puberty and early-post pubescence. sounds very much like the "gender dysphoria" craze that has so many middle-and-high-school girls suddenly trooning out, no?
basically, my assumption is that the huge majority of gaydens have mistaken a phase many girls go through of relationships with other girls and attraction to yaoi fantasies (neither of which are actual lesbianism or actually anything to do with gay sex) before they settle down to feeling comfortable enough to just be straight as instead their "true identity" being a gay softboi. (and never, ever a man. not coincidentally, women generally seem to identify with the softer, feminine ukes in yaoi.) expect an absolute epidemic of them realizing their attraction extends to straight cis men but defending that dating them doesn't make them any less For Real Gay because reasons.
white gen z yaoiboi gaydens, however, the as-far-as-i-can-tell massive majority of the boxer-ceiling-kill-all-fags twitcourse, generally only date the other gaydens.
again i feel it's helpful to define this with japanese fetishry, as japs have been so repressed for so long that their sexual and paraphiliac fantasies have resolved into a catalogue of distinct and specific genres. in particular, i'd posit the gayden phenomenon as the intersection of class s pseudo-lesbianism and the consumption of yaoi, both phenomenons the japanese associate with phases of teenage girls.
both class s relationships and yaoi have very little to do with actual homosexuality. i'd say they're basically safe spaces for pubescent girls to explore romantic intimacy and sexual desire in a way that doesn't involve the daunting interaction with real boys. the appeal of yaoi in particular is as far as i can understand a sexual fantasy that's safer for them because it has nothing to do with their own bodies, allowing them to disconnect from their own discomforts and complexes over their puberty and early-post pubescence. sounds very much like the "gender dysphoria" craze that has so many middle-and-high-school girls suddenly trooning out, no?
basically, my assumption is that the huge majority of gaydens have mistaken a phase many girls go through of relationships with other girls and attraction to yaoi fantasies (neither of which are actual lesbianism or actually anything to do with gay sex) before they settle down to feeling comfortable enough to just be straight as instead their "true identity" being a gay softboi. (and never, ever a man. not coincidentally, women generally seem to identify with the softer, feminine ukes in yaoi.) expect an absolute epidemic of them realizing their attraction extends to straight cis men but defending that dating them doesn't make them any less For Real Gay because reasons.
so, given their insistence they're For Real Gay Men and insistence real gay men should want them yet themselves only seem to actually want Cute MLM Pure Yaoiboi relationships in actual practice, i'd assume the gleeful boxer ceiling vitriol has these origins:
- they're addicted to that sjw hit of being Most Righteous. it's an outrage addiction as much as fox news; they always need to chase that next twitstorm and goalposts moving for who is to be castigated en masse as The Newest Oppressor.
- in particular, they've finally escaped their label as enemy #1 of the woque: White Cis Straight Woman. (they'll shit-talk the white cis straight man, but you never see the same levels of directed hatred, piling-on, and demanded consequences as those for females who refuse to slavishly take the abuse and meekly handmaiden.)
- so it's probably a real fucking rush to finally be the victimest of victims yourself. now finally you can aim all that nastiness and derision and scorn at those (well, a subsection of those) who constantly abused you online because their oppression freed them from consequences. hence the absolute palpable glee when being homophobic, exultance in their use of slurs, and insistence that ah-ha, now it's them who suffer the actual -phobia so they can be the wielders of the malicious generalized insults and slurs with immunity to consequence now.
transbians aim for lesbians because they only want pussy but more than that need their AGP fetish validated. they'll gleefully call themselves dykes and imply homosexuality is transphobic, but they don't overtly attack and use the slurs to flippantly abuse lesbians as a group at nearly the same rate. that's because their true motive is to eventually convince the lesbians to suck their girldicks, and alienating their targets is bad strategy.
gaydens aim for gaydens but shit on gay men constantly because now they have the tool of i can say it to abuse a class of people it's "acceptable" for transmen to abuse for that hit of sjw nastiness. they get to scold them over liking dick for that hit of sjw purity and self-righteousness. because ackshually it's punching up, now, they get to gleefully violate what was most taboo for their previous class: insulting the victim class and dropping slurs.
gaydens aim for gaydens but shit on gay men constantly because now they have the tool of i can say it to abuse a class of people it's "acceptable" for transmen to abuse for that hit of sjw nastiness. they get to scold them over liking dick for that hit of sjw purity and self-righteousness. because ackshually it's punching up, now, they get to gleefully violate what was most taboo for their previous class: insulting the victim class and dropping slurs.
i don't think most gaydens are ultimately interested in getting gay men the same way transbians are lesbians. they're interested in being rejected by gay men so they'll have those oppression points for the free rein to scorn and abuse those gay men they tell us they like so much. winning gay men over isn't the actual goal, hence why they do basically everything they can to insult and alienate them.
a real gay man is actually in violation of the yaoi fantasy they pursue. it's about a woman's imaginary gay men, which not-at-all coincidentally is also the definition of any gayden.
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