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All first lady initiatives are fronts. Do you think anyone tracked Nancy Reagan's "just say no" campaign? Think it convinced any kids not to do drugs (in the '80s no less)?

One thing I agree with that infographic on is that Michelle's typical useless first lady initiative got a lot more autistic scrutiny than it deserved. Although most of it was about owning the libs and the typical fatass American reeing about being expected to eat vegetables, and not necessarily racism.
It got a lot more scrutiny than it deserved because everything the Obamas did got way more praise than it deserved, and no scrutiny whatsoever by the mainstream media. People didn't just instantly forget the way everything bush did was talked about, and not notice the sudden fawning.

If you are gonna keep pointing at someone saying "LOOK WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY'RE DOING" you don't get to complain that too many people are paying attention when you make mistakes.

When the popular media spends all its time sucking up to Obama, it's natural some people are going to push back. But of course, it was all actually just racism. The damn lazy kids just didn't want to eat vegetables, yeah that's it.
 

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Legit, how the fuck was the electoral college made to preserve slavery? It was made so that you wouldn't have to campaign in only highly-populated areas.
She's stating an incorrect conclusion. It was not there to preserve slavery, but it was indirectly gamed several times to preserve the balance between states that had economies that directly benefited from slavery and those with economies that did not.

The electoral college & bicameral legislature was set up so small, low-population states wouldn't have their voice completely drowned out by the larger states, while acknowledging that larger states with more people did need to have more say; it was to avoid a tyranny of the majority or minority. (also why a lot of big stuff needs 2/3 or 3/4 majorities instead of simple ones.)

Our TDS suffering racist ESPN hostess is responding to the fact that, firstly, many states that benefited from the increased voice provided by the EC were agriculture focused, and were therefore more likely to approve slavery as abolition would disproportionately affect them economically.
Secondly, this caused a lot of gamesmanship in congress when it came to adding new states, as the slave states knew very well what would happen if their voices in the senate were diminished. And the Anti-slave states not wanting to give those states any more of a voice than they already had. (See: Missouri Compromise)

She's really thinking of the 3/5ths compromise, as that was put in place to grant the slave-holding states more power in the house, to keep them in the union & delay the civil war a little longer.


The only possible non-EC fix has its own issues, which would require every resident of California and New York to move somewhere else for a period of 10 years to before they're allowed to vote, so they understand that universe doesn't end at the city limits. But this really a terrible idea, as I could not in good conscience violate people's rights like that... I mean inflicting California and New York residents on innocent people, just terrible.
 

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She's stating an incorrect conclusion. It was not there to preserve slavery, but it was indirectly gamed several times to preserve the balance between states that had economies that directly benefited from slavery and those with economies that did not.

The electoral college & bicameral legislature was set up so small, low-population states wouldn't have their voice completely drowned out by the larger states, while acknowledging that larger states with more people did need to have more say; it was to avoid a tyranny of the majority or minority. (also why a lot of big stuff needs 2/3 or 3/4 majorities instead of simple ones.)

Our TDS suffering racist ESPN hostess is responding to the fact that, firstly, many states that benefited from the increased voice provided by the EC were agriculture focused, and were therefore more likely to approve slavery as abolition would disproportionately affect them economically.
Secondly, this caused a lot of gamesmanship in congress when it came to adding new states, as the slave states knew very well what would happen if their voices in the senate were diminished. And the Anti-slave states not wanting to give those states any more of a voice than they already had. (See: Missouri Compromise)

She's really thinking of the 3/5ths compromise, as that was put in place to grant the slave-holding states more power in the house, to keep them in the union & delay the civil war a little longer.


The only possible non-EC fix has its own issues, which would require every resident of California and New York to move somewhere else for a period of 10 years to before they're allowed to vote, so they understand that universe doesn't end at the city limits. But this really a terrible idea, as I could not in good conscience violate people's rights like that... I mean inflicting California and New York residents on innocent people, just terrible.
Also, about the 3/5ths' compromise, how hard would it be to calculate that? All slaves being 3/5ths of a person. How unnecessary.
 

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What's going to happen once people stop saying irreverent shit on Twitter and CNN starts trying to be non-biases? Would people become a bit more smarter and try to get all of the facts of whatever happened? Or would someone somewhere create a new social media platform to spew garbage at?
The current tech giants are cemented in place by enormous barriers of entry and corporate cronyism. Start an alternative you won't have access to the likes of Paypal and Credit Cards.

Legit, how the fuck was the electoral college made to preserve slavery? It was made so that you wouldn't have to campaign in only highly-populated areas.
The electoral college as we know it was the product of a series of compromises to get the slave states to actually stay with the Union. Just for clarity: States get a base allocation of seats and then its down to population.

The south supported the electoral college because of the 3/5ths compromise that would guarantee them a "fair" share of the electoral seats. Slaves were counted towards the amount of representation a state would get as 3/5th a person and the USA only got that because northerners had haggled hard with the southerners. The great fear was that the south would be dominated by a government without representation like had happened under Britain so it was critical that the south felt it was equally represented.

The French still cockblocked the USA from spreading west when the compromise was made in 1787 so the south found the system acceptable instead of viewing it as an anvil tied to a string.

Western expansion and the electoral college caused the Civil War and end of slavery. The western states were not going to be slave states and it was obvious just looking at the map. Lincoln won his election because of a set of "exceptional" circumstances but what was happening was obvious. Southern gentlemen weren't going to dominate the country anymore no matter what happened and they reacted by throwing a fit.

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The electoral college wasn't made to preserve slavery, it was made to preserve the Union. Prior to 1861 the USA barely had an army. In 1861 the northern armies matched the south man for man despite more than half a century of taking in an insane number of immigrants. In 1787, a civil war would have been unwise as the numbers were much closer, Britain was breathing down their back and the federal government was weak as shit. The south had to have equal representation and this was the way.

People who make this argument are also people who argue that states rights is racist, ignoring stuff like the northern states using their militias to oppose the fugitive slave act.
 
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The current tech giants are cemented in place by enormous barriers of entry and corporate cronyism. Start an alternative you won't have access to the likes of Paypal and Credit Cards.



The electoral college as we know was the product of a series of compromises to get the slave states to actually stay with the Union. Just for clarity: States get a base allocation of seats and then its down to population.

The south supported the electoral college because of the 3/5ths compromise that would guarantee them a "fair" share of the electoral seats. Slaves were counted towards the amount of representation a state would get as 3/5th a person and the USA only got that because northerners had haggled hard with the southerners. The great fear was that the south would be dominated by a government without representation like had happened under Britain so it was critical that the south felt it was equally represented.

The French still cockblocked the USA from spreading west when the compromise was made in 1787 so the south found the system acceptable instead of viewing it as an anvil tied to a string.

Western expansion and the electoral college caused the Civil War and end of slavery. The western states were not going to be slave states and it was obvious just looking at the map. Lincoln won his election because of a set of "exceptional" circumstances but what was happening was obvious. Southern gentlemen weren't going to dominate the country anymore no matter what happened and they reacted by throwing a fit.

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The electoral college wasn't made to preserve slavery, it was made to preserve the Union. Prior to 1861 the USA barely had an army. In 1861 the northern armies matched the south man for man despite more than half a century of taking in an insane number of immigrants. In 1787, a civil war would have been unwise as the numbers were much closer, Britain was breathing down their back and the federal government was weak as shit. The south had to have equal representation and this was the way.

People who make this argument are also people who argue that states rights is racist, ignoring stuff like the northern states using their militias to oppose the fugitive slave act.
So wait, does this mean the current trend of the press and financially-allied technology companies working together to turn every tragedy into an excuse to be slanderous and censorious toward alternatives to the Silicon Valley kleptocracy as being nothing more than Nazi-terrorist breeding farms is metaphorically bleeding Kansas? Where the compromise was “states vote if they want to legalize slavery” was used as an excuse by the agricultural magnates to send agents into new territories to prop up their waning power. They have a good scam going on by being the only game in town where they can sell user info to government agencies and sell promotion to dinosaur media conglomerates and they’d hate to have to share space with a competitor, even if they made the competition viable by being shit.
 

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I can’t wait to watch these leftist spergs on twitter back track on the electoral college if and when a Democrat wins the White House in the future.

They’ll be like: No! no! We must keep it*!

*As long as my side wins!
Oh, they know they need the EC. They wouldn't be so crazy to keep illegals pouring into the country if they didn't, it's why California does everything to encourage as many Mexicans as possible to come in no matter what. Without the citizenship question on the census, the illegals swell their electoral college votes.
 

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Oh, they know they need the EC. They wouldn't be so crazy to keep illegals pouring into the country if they didn't, it's why California does everything to encourage as many Mexicans as possible to come in no matter what. Without the citizenship question on the census, the illegals swell their electoral college votes.
Isn't Trump considering it removed in 2020?