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China, India, and Brazil generate the most emissions and the most environmental damage but are pretty much excempt from the Paris protocols.
Even assuming Climate Change is influenced by humans to levels the people who have been wrong about climate data say it is, anything done by the US and Europe is pointless as long as those countries are given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want.
They also don't realize how much they hurt their case with anyone paying attention by screaming about apocalypse level events. And once something does pretty much happen and the world DOESN'T end, they can't haul them out because they were screaming this would end the world.
Remember Colony Collapse Disorder and the end of the honey bee? That was a lie.
CCD was/is a real problem. Its killing bees. But not to the level of threatening the species, and not even to the level of disrupting honey production. What it DOES disrupt is Honey Bees as a commercial pollinator: That is, parking hives near orchards and fields so the bees will pollenate the flowers for crops.
This is actually a huge deal! Without a scale pollinator, produce, especially fruit, would start becoming scarce and more expensive as it would likely not get pollinated at levels that will benefit. But there are other insects that are also viable commercial pollinators. Farmers can switch to them; they aren't as convenient as bees, but they'll do the job.
However, instead of saying "Hey, its really worrying that honey bees are dying off. Fruit is going to go up in price if we don't figure out what's going on." They scream and flail about the end of the world and how you are killing the planet if you don't spend quadruple to eat "organic".
Remember acid rain? That was a real, serious problem we "fixed" (by regulating business out of profitablity in the west so factories could open in china with zero environmental oversight). But it was never as bad as it was made out to be. And once stopped, it didn't fuck things up for decades after. Within a few years, like it didn't happen.
Remember the hole in the Ozone layer over antartica? How that fucker fixed itself almost immediately? Yeah well its coming back because the Chinese don't give a shit.
If you don't regulate China, you're just trying to drain the Nile with a tin cup.
And no one wants to address the real issue: Population. Urban sprawl, the explosion of 3rd world populations with western medicine and food production. Reduce the number of people, stop turning forest and farms into condos, and most of these problems go away.
Even assuming Climate Change is influenced by humans to levels the people who have been wrong about climate data say it is, anything done by the US and Europe is pointless as long as those countries are given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want.
They also don't realize how much they hurt their case with anyone paying attention by screaming about apocalypse level events. And once something does pretty much happen and the world DOESN'T end, they can't haul them out because they were screaming this would end the world.
Remember Colony Collapse Disorder and the end of the honey bee? That was a lie.
CCD was/is a real problem. Its killing bees. But not to the level of threatening the species, and not even to the level of disrupting honey production. What it DOES disrupt is Honey Bees as a commercial pollinator: That is, parking hives near orchards and fields so the bees will pollenate the flowers for crops.
This is actually a huge deal! Without a scale pollinator, produce, especially fruit, would start becoming scarce and more expensive as it would likely not get pollinated at levels that will benefit. But there are other insects that are also viable commercial pollinators. Farmers can switch to them; they aren't as convenient as bees, but they'll do the job.
However, instead of saying "Hey, its really worrying that honey bees are dying off. Fruit is going to go up in price if we don't figure out what's going on." They scream and flail about the end of the world and how you are killing the planet if you don't spend quadruple to eat "organic".
Remember acid rain? That was a real, serious problem we "fixed" (by regulating business out of profitablity in the west so factories could open in china with zero environmental oversight). But it was never as bad as it was made out to be. And once stopped, it didn't fuck things up for decades after. Within a few years, like it didn't happen.
Remember the hole in the Ozone layer over antartica? How that fucker fixed itself almost immediately? Yeah well its coming back because the Chinese don't give a shit.
If you don't regulate China, you're just trying to drain the Nile with a tin cup.
And no one wants to address the real issue: Population. Urban sprawl, the explosion of 3rd world populations with western medicine and food production. Reduce the number of people, stop turning forest and farms into condos, and most of these problems go away.
