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Millionaire socialists never believe what they spout. Dude has two homes while complaining about people having multiple homes, underpays staff while complaining about the minimum wage being too low, shouts about how the 1% arn't donating their money to help the medically needy while being in the 1% and not exactly donating massive funds to children's hospitals. He has a good image, he did some activist work when he was younger, but he is totally the far left version of someone who insists homosexuality sends you straight to hell while drilling holes in the men's room stalls. He isn't a threat to any system that he benefits from. At most he'd be a slightly more left Obama in practice.
Don't forget his modest Audi R8 supercar. If it was a 2016 model, then they started at about $185,000. Top of the line models were about $210,000. Those are not adjusted for inflation.

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We should tell bernie bros that impeachment is a democrat party conspiracy to steal another primary from bernie. It sounds just convincing enough to actually be true, and it doesn't take much for them to run with anything. Think about it, the democrats have to know they can't actually remove Trump from office, and why else would Pelosi delay things until a couple weeks before Iowa?
If that sounds plausible to you, imagine how it would sound to one of their confirmation bias infected npcs.
 

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I was gonna ask why Pelosi's never run for president but then a look at Wikipedia tells me she's third in line for the job behind Trump and Pence and it all made sense. Then again, would not be shocked if she was parachuted in as the Democrat nominee and this whole impeachment lark is just a way to make her a hero figure to Democrat voters or she's laying the groundwork for a 2024 run cause she knows Trump has got 2020 in the bag.
 

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Man, check out all the responses given to this Tweet, as most are saying the Republicans are ignorant of Trump's crimes.

 

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Man, check out all the responses given to this Tweet, as most are saying the Republicans are ignorant of Trump's crimes.

I think there’s a typo in this. Carmine meant “an hero”.
 

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I was gonna ask why Pelosi's never run for president but then a look at Wikipedia tells me she's third in line for the job behind Trump and Pence and it all made sense. Then again, would not be shocked if she was parachuted in as the Democrat nominee and this whole impeachment lark is just a way to make her a hero figure to Democrat voters or she's laying the groundwork for a 2024 run cause she knows Trump has got 2020 in the bag.
And it might be doubful then they could get 2024 in the bag as well.
 

Gehenna

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And it might be doubful then they could get 2024 in the bag as well.
It is not as doubtful as one might think.... and at the same time more so. It really depends how they take their likely loss in 2020. For an example of a change to the good, we have the 2012 election. Republicans had worked themselves in a frenzy and had utterly lost the plot and were fracturing at every turn, ending in putting up Romney who was basically Obama With White Skin, and getting their asses handed to them. This forced them to examine themselves and lead to them becoming a more unified, pro-american citizen party.
The democrats could, in theory, follow the exact same path as the above description equally applies to them now.

The key difference and hence why I say possibly more doubtful is that there are several factors at play here so let me be a bit long winded.

First, the presidency. Obama got elected largely on a counter-bush narrative that he would change things. Trump was elected on a similar anti-obama narrative. What does this mean for the theoretical 2024 election? Well... it is unlikely that any anti-Trump message will reach a similar applause. Bush was an absolute nightmare that needed fixing, so obama could run on that. Obama at best stayed Bushes course and at worst MADE things worse. Trump, as much as I find him repugnant on a personal level, has gotten things done and has demonstrably made life better for the average american. This means, short of Trump doing something monumentally stupid, running on a "Fix Trump's America: platform like Obama and Trump did to their predecessor is non viable. This leads into,

Second, a uniting figure. Trump saved the Republican Party. Lets just acknowledge that fact out the gate. He provided a single, unified vision. Presented a single, unifed solution. And his voice now is what the majority of republicans follow. The fracturing that was tearing the GOP into bits was solved by those fracturing people realizing they had no pathway to power post 2012, and they rallied behind Trump because he presented them all the closest thing possible to an inter-party compromise. To the Evanglicals? They had Pence who was a BRILLIANT choice by Trump as it ensured they knew they would have his ear at the second highest position in the land. To the Right-Wing libertarians? He promised to absolutely tear apart Obama's legacy... and he did. To the Stock republicans? He provided clear solutions to modern problems that aligned with their principles. A key thing to note, Each of these factions has clear and concise complaints abut Trump, but they backed him anyway because he was willing to compromise between them and he gave them clear goals. The problem for the democrats in 2024 is that... I don't see how this is possible for them. Mind, I didn't see how it was possible for the republicans either but I did at least have some notions as to how it could theoretically be done. I have nothing similar for Democrats.


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Pelosi has no ambition higher than the House speaker, she runs it like her personal kingdom and everyone from democrats to republicans has to kiss her ring to get anything done. She is just a grander scale of that middlemanager who refuses promotion because he wants total control of his employees.
 

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It is not as doubtful as one might think.... and at the same time more so. It really depends how they take their likely loss in 2020. For an example of a change to the good, we have the 2012 election. Republicans had worked themselves in a frenzy and had utterly lost the plot and were fracturing at every turn, ending in putting up Romney who was basically Obama With White Skin, and getting their asses handed to them. This forced them to examine themselves and lead to them becoming a more unified, pro-american citizen party.
The democrats could, in theory, follow the exact same path as the above description equally applies to them now.

The key difference and hence why I say possibly more doubtful is that there are several factors at play here so let me be a bit long winded.

First, the presidency. Obama got elected largely on a counter-bush narrative that he would change things. Trump was elected on a similar anti-obama narrative. What does this mean for the theoretical 2024 election? Well... it is unlikely that any anti-Trump message will reach a similar applause. Bush was an absolute nightmare that needed fixing, so obama could run on that. Obama at best stayed Bushes course and at worst MADE things worse. Trump, as much as I find him repugnant on a personal level, has gotten things done and has demonstrably made life better for the average american. This means, short of Trump doing something monumentally stupid, running on a "Fix Trump's America: platform like Obama and Trump did to their predecessor is non viable. This leads into,

Second, a uniting figure. Trump saved the Republican Party. Lets just acknowledge that fact out the gate. He provided a single, unified vision. Presented a single, unifed solution. And his voice now is what the majority of republicans follow. The fracturing that was tearing the GOP into bits was solved by those fracturing people realizing they had no pathway to power post 2012, and they rallied behind Trump because he presented them all the closest thing possible to an inter-party compromise. To the Evanglicals? They had Pence who was a BRILLIANT choice by Trump as it ensured they knew they would have his ear at the second highest position in the land. To the Right-Wing libertarians? He promised to absolutely tear apart Obama's legacy... and he did. To the Stock republicans? He provided clear solutions to modern problems that aligned with their principles. A key thing to note, Each of these factions has clear and concise complaints abut Trump, but they backed him anyway because he was willing to compromise between them and he gave them clear goals. The problem for the democrats in 2024 is that... I don't see how this is possible for them. Mind, I didn't see how it was possible for the republicans either but I did at least have some notions as to how it could theoretically be done. I have nothing similar for Democrats.


Also, @
MsStevieMarie
Pelosi has no ambition higher than the House speaker, she runs it like her personal kingdom and everyone from democrats to republicans has to kiss her ring to get anything done. She is just a grander scale of that middlemanager who refuses promotion because he wants total control of his employees.
I think the key factor you're missing is the media.

The republicans basically don't have the entire 4th branch of the government looking to lie to them and convince them everything is ok. When they ran into troubles, they had to take hard looks at cold reality and come to grips with it. When democrats do the same, they have a legion of folks ready to tell them it's not them, it's muh Russia, or muh Ukraine, or muh 4chan...

As long as the enablers hold out, they'll not make a change.
 

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@Gehenna That's an interesting take. If Trump is re-elected, 2024 maybe pretty interesting. I also don't really see Trump royally screwing up outside a recession occurring and even then I could see Trump using his own money and position to try to help people bounce back. We might finally see an end both to this 8 year rotation between parties and the whole anti-predecessor campaign pledge by presidential candidates.

As long as the enablers hold out, they'll not make a change.
No...but maybe yes? I think I know what you mean, but the problem with this statement is that the Left and the media are practically one, so it doesn't really make any sense to see the media being the Iago/Worm Tongue to the Democrat's Othello/Theoden.
 
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Gehenna

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I think the key factor you're missing is the media.

The republicans basically don't have the entire 4th branch of the government looking to lie to them and convince them everything is ok. When they ran into troubles, they had to take hard looks at cold reality and come to grips with it. When democrats do the same, they have a legion of folks ready to tell them it's not them, it's muh Russia, or muh Ukraine, or muh 4chan...

As long as the enablers hold out, they'll not make a change.
I'm not missing it, because its not a factor.

The US trust in media is ABYSMAL, what is more every study we have done of late shows that people are largely getting their news from other sources and that number is increasing. While I am SURE the old-media would love you to believe they have a massive impact... they just don't. They went how hard against Trump? How much did they go for the democrats in the 2016 congressional elections?
 

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I'm not missing it, because its not a factor.

The US trust in media is ABYSMAL, what is more every study we have done of late shows that people are largely getting their news from other sources and that number is increasing. While I am SURE the old-media would love you to believe they have a massive impact... they just don't. They went how hard against Trump? How much did they go for the democrats in the 2016 congressional elections?
Everyone says they distrust the media while they repeat its talking points. Like how many people think Trump has done next to nothing about the border and is instead letting hordes of criminals out of prison.
 

Flexo

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I'm not missing it, because its not a factor.

The US trust in media is ABYSMAL, what is more every study we have done of late shows that people are largely getting their news from other sources and that number is increasing. While I am SURE the old-media would love you to believe they have a massive impact... they just don't. They went how hard against Trump? How much did they go for the democrats in the 2016 congressional elections?
Know who does still trust the media?

Democrat voters.
 

Matthew216

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It's probably because 9/11 caused non-progressives to bring up the savage customs of some Muslims and due to geographic ignorance you can always find some teabagger who thinks that all Muslims do FGM (it's an East African thing) or that all Islam is Wahhabi and call them a bigot. Talking points are like flags, it's not about putting forth an argument but signalling your allegiance, so once the "deplorables" take up one of your talking points especially if they do it crudely you must drop it like a hot potato to make sure no-one confuses you with one of the evil bigots to remain a "true progressive".

I wonder if this is the true force behind the long march leftward, progressives are often so successful at shoving their ideas down the throats of the masses that to stay differentiated from the great unwashed they must continually invent new, more radical ones. The eternal Hipster's desire to remain ahead of the cool curve.
Coolness is at the very heart of leftism. The desire to be cool is something that plagues these people. But to be cool you have to be different in some way. The non-conformist have long since run out of things not to conform too, now they’re trying to not conform to gender itself.
 

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If you genuinely think that's going to be one of the biggest concerns that you'll have to contend with before the end of this trial, then you're going to be horrified when you see what's coming down the line. Way to try and pump the breaks on this way too fucking late, though. He's already appointed, what, 1/4th of the judges in the entire country now?