Tulpa.info: Pony waifus and do-it-yourself schizophrenia -

DeagleDad420

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For a good introduction to what we're dealing with here, listen to this recording of a Tulpa "host" explaining it

I'm serious. Watch it. Leave it running in the background while you read this thread. Entirely by accident, this sperg managed to do a better summary of the Tulpa community and everything wrong with it than I could ever possibly write. It starts slow, but it gets WAY better (or worse? idk) as it goes on. It's a recording of a man named Tron (the one with the spergy nerd voice) talking to his younger brother "Wes", who is really normal and totally clueless. Tron goes by "Koomer" online, his "tulpa"'s name is Oguigi.

tl;dr: Tulpas are like headmates but... People use weirdo psychological parlour tricks to make their subconcious minds hallucinate crazy things, generally imaginary friends, dream-worlds that they inhabit in their minds, and... weirder shit. It's like lucid dreaming but when you're awake.

One guy made an amazing post about how he made himself hallucinate a first person shooter HUD 24/7 and how he now sees his "stamina bar" in the upper right corner of his eyesight. One guy talked about how he has dozens of "tulpas" (personalities) in his brain kickin' around and doing cool anime battles with each other and shit while he's at school. The sky is the limit because these people essentially believe they are in the Matrix and they're Neo, they can hallucinate anything they want, and they might as well.

I've been infiltrating this community for a while now, nothing malicious just sort of watchin' and waitin', and GOD DAMN the streets are paved with autistic gold. I want to share that gold with you guys so I'm posting this here as a placeholder; caps are on the way soon, so stay tuned... in the meantime, here's a link to their site.

Some choice quotes from Glitchthe3rd, one of my favorite people in the world. Here he talks about using JavaScript to program your brain to hallucinate a Metroid-style video game HUD in your eyeballs.

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Here he gives his opinion on beating off with imaginary friends
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Here he details his Tulpa posse
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I barely had to look to find these. Every single post on this forum is insane and packed with near-nuclear levels of cringe.
 
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c-no

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Anyone here remember the show Mythbusters? These guys give a whole new meaning to Adam Savage's quote "I reject reality, and substitute my own."
Indeed. Really considering how tulpa's would have their own waifu's, kinda makes me wonder about brony tulpa's. Really, this can't be healthy since these tulpas would pretty much be headmates brought by "psychological palour tricks" as said by DeagleDad420.
 

Misbun Sidek

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They (tulpas) seem to help some people. The original Buddhist concept and use of Tulpas is actually quite fascinating, and using a Tulpa as a sort of "voice of conscience" could be helpful to people who have difficulty with determining right and wrong. It can also (obviously) help people to keep themselves sane (more or less) in times of extreme isolation. The only real problem that I see is when teenagers and children start making them. It's easy to retreat into your own little fantasy world already, just with anime and tumblr and whatnot. Introducing imaginary friends could very easily put someone on the road to total isolation. There's also the issue of youths convincing themselves that the Tulpa is more than a thoughtform. Young people, and especially children, have very active imaginations, and I could see a kid believing that his Tulpa is giving him superpowers. Unfortunately, the tulpa.info people will never make their site 18+, so many lonely youths will just end up taking the easy way out and never learning social skills.

So, to summarize, Tulpa as "assistant" and "voice of subconscious" is healthy. Tulpa as crutch to avoid learning social skills, is unhealthy, and Tulpas for kids is just asking for trouble.
 

wheat pasta

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You know, I sort of am into some stuff myself that is similar (and I'd guess a lot of people would see it as being exactly the same and I'm just as deluded), so I don't really think I could comment in depth without sounding like a hypocrite... or crazy. Or both. But I reeeally don't understand the masturbatory/sexual aspect of it. To me it feels incredibly disrespectful that you're creating this.. thoughtform, giving it a sort of 'life' and personality and that kind of thing, then just using it as a way of venting your sexual desires. Sure, it's not an actual living thing, but at the same time it's the thought(form) that counts, to me.


I can't be the only Game Grumps fan here... did anyone else think that Tron guy was a dead ringer for the "I'm a sexy widdle baby" voice?
 

DykesDykesChina

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Is this really possible - "reprogramming" your brain so as to make it hallucinate, creating visual or auditory sensations not caused by external stimuli? Or are these guys just full of shit and convince themselves it is possible while in reality it isn't??
 

DeagleDad420

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They (tulpas) seem to help some people. The original Buddhist concept and use of Tulpas is actually quite fascinating, and using a Tulpa as a sort of "voice of conscience" could be helpful to people who have difficulty with determining right and wrong. It can also (obviously) help people to keep themselves sane (more or less) in times of extreme isolation. The only real problem that I see is when teenagers and children start making them. It's easy to retreat into your own little fantasy world already, just with anime and tumblr and whatnot. Introducing imaginary friends could very easily put someone on the road to total isolation. There's also the issue of youths convincing themselves that the Tulpa is more than a thoughtform. Young people, and especially children, have very active imaginations, and I could see a kid believing that his Tulpa is giving him superpowers. Unfortunately, the tulpa.info people will never make their site 18+, so many lonely youths will just end up taking the easy way out and never learning social skills.

So, to summarize, Tulpa as "assistant" and "voice of subconscious" is healthy. Tulpa as crutch to avoid learning social skills, is unhealthy, and Tulpas for kids is just asking for trouble.
I agree myself - it's an interesting concept and I'd like to see it explored by a professional therapist/someone who knows what they're talking about. In my experience, about half of the tulpa.info community isn't fun because they're the former "healthy" side of it, and I literally only care about a website if it has spergs posting on it saying funny things. The "healthy" ones aren't the reason I made this thread. I made this thread for the other half.

The other side of the community, the blue-pill side... hoooooly shit man, the sky is the limit with the insanity of these people, it's awesome and I want to spend the rest of my life watching Vice documentaries about their lives

Is this really possible - "reprogramming" your brain so as to make it hallucinate, creating visual or auditory sensations not caused by external stimuli? Or are these guys just full of shit and convince themselves it is possible while in reality it isn't??
Yes. The catch-22 that they're working with is "if I believe it's true it's true" which is technically true on the most literal level. To the person experiencing reality, there's no discernible difference between external reality and their perception of reality, so if they can bluepill hard enough and fully convince themselves that My Little Ponies are chilling with them 24/7 then yeah, for them, yea that's happening bro. The side effect, of course, is that everybody else can't see the ponies; all the observers see is a guy with a lisp talking about his imaginary friends. So what you end up with is a lot of people who completely lack self-awareness because for them, their ponies ARE totally real and everyone else is just a dumb hater. These people retreat to their own fantasy-world hugbox even further and make increasingly ridiculous posts and then I screencap the posts and laugh at really hard. It's like the circle of life.
 

DykesDykesChina

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Yes. The catch-22 that they're working with is "if I believe it's true it's true" which is technically true on the most literal level. To the person experiencing reality, there's no discernible difference between external reality and their perception of reality, so if they can bluepill hard enough and fully convince themselves that My Little Ponies are chilling with them 24/7 then yeah, for them, yea that's happening bro. The side effect, of course, is that everybody else can't see the ponies; all the observers see is a guy with a lisp talking about his imaginary friends. So what you end up with is a lot of people who completely lack self-awareness because for them, their ponies ARE totally real and everyone else is just a dumb hater. These people retreat to their own fantasy-world hugbox even further and make increasingly ridiculous posts and then I screencap the posts and laugh at really hard. It's like the circle of life.
Hmm.. but is this more like a child playing make-believe, or are they truly hallucinating like sufferers of schizophrenia?
 

Surtur

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Hmm.. but is this more like a child playing make-believe, or are they truly hallucinating like sufferers of schizophrenia?
A little of column A and a little of column B. They may very well be mentally healthy, however even healthy people can hallucinate, and since they so desperately want to believe in their tulpas, they may very well see them, or at least they have convinced themselves they are there.
 
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It seems to me basically like the waifu-idea being taken to a whole new level. Lonely people who make up for their lack of real human interaction by retreating into their own minds. I'm trying to not be too judgemental here as my own brother is very much into the whole lucid dreaming thing. Or well, he used to be anyway. He's a teenager, these phases they come and go. I think the two are related on many levels. It's basically self-induced virtual reality. Games you play with yourself inside yourself or something.

The voice of the guy in the video is rather awful, he should probably get speech therapy. The whole transformation is not quite impressive. Had he turned into a sassy black woman complete with snappy fingers and an attitude, now that would have been impressive. But no, he just get's a bit more aggresive in his voice and a slightly higher pitch? Man, that's weak.

Now there are actually some of these tulpa people who put a little more effort into the whole multiple-personalities act. It's basically a form of do-it-yourself schizophrenia if you ask me. But it's quite fascinating to see how far some of them go with it. They told themselves a million times a hot anime gamerbabe with gigantic knockers dwells within them until eventually they started believing in it.

Here's what is perhaps a better example of a tulpa-enthusiast showcasing the different voices of what appear to be his multiple headmates:

 
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waffle

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This is so...wow...advanced day dreaming! I fully expect this to be the next fad with the bronies and forever alones on /b/.

I had actually been considering writing a novella about a drug that made people hulicinate in a similar way. Now I almost have to.
 

OfflineCyberBully

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I discovered this sub-culture a while ago, but I didn't look into it too much at that time. So this thread has helped me rediscover these folks.
They remind me of Otherkin and Otakukin. It's like they're a trio of flowers in the Bouquet of Cray.

That being said I think the concept as it's used in Buddhism is pretty fascinating. But like everything else in life, all it takes is a Dash o'Net-Sperg to transform something into a twisted, vile, caricature of itself that's still compelling to watch.
 

Artard

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This is some Jared Lee Loughner shit, man. I've seen tulpaganda among the apprentice Wizards though like with waifus, I didn't think they were being serious. Never underestimate a virgin with rage, Chris warned us and all jerkops about this but we didn't listen.
 

wheat pasta

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I actually checked out some guides and made my own tulpa. I don't see what all the fuss is about by these guys, or why they would ever consider an imaginary (not the same as being not real! ;)) thoughtform to be an object of romantic or sexual affection. My tulpa kind of likes to cuddle but it's more like cuddling with a big puppy or something. He's so innocent, I can't imagine these people making such pure innocent ponies (or lolis or whatever) and then like.. fapping to them and stuff. Super messed up.
 

Have a Pepsi

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I have a few tulpas. Just, I don't usually call them "tulpas". I have sort of a dreamworld, where it's like a crossover world of a few of my favorite fictional worlds, plus some original stuff. It's also where my girlfriend exists - and yes, she's a cartoon character. She's not a pony, though... That just sounds gross.
But this stuff here? Stuff about turning into your tulpas or whatever, and this "real life HUD" crud? Totally weird and creepy. And sex with your tulpa...? Well, I don't like sex in the first place, so I'm kind of biased about that. But other than that I think it's stupid, how does that even work?
 
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I have a few tulpas. Just, I don't usually call them "tulpas".

Tell me more about your tulpas! What are their names and what do they look like?

I have sort of a dreamworld, where it's like a crossover world of a few of my favorite fictional worlds, plus some original stuff.

What's it like their? Is your dreamworld called China?

It's also where my girlfriend exists - and yes, she's a cartoon character. She's not a pony, though... That just sounds gross.

How did you and your girlfriend meet? Was it love on first sight?

But this stuff here? Stuff about turning into your tulpas or whatever, and this "real life HUD" crud? Totally weird and creepy.

Ikr?!

Well, I don't like sex in the first place, so I'm kind of biased about that. But other than that I think it's stupid, how does that even work?

Is your girlfriend okay with that? Doesn't she have needs?
 

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