Twitch suspends DragonForce guitarist for playing his own music -

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Twitch continues its DMCA takedown rampage, this time suspending the channel of DragonForce guitarist Herman Li for playing his own music.

Twitch has recently been busy with its comically oversized takedown hammer, smashing thousands of channels for their unsanctioned use of copyrighted music under the auspices of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Now, its wrath has been seemingly misapplied to a well known artist, guitarist Herman Li of DragonForce, who has shifted his streaming activities over to the band’s YouTube channel.

My Twitch channel is currently suspended. Today I will be streaming on YouTube instead athttps://t.co/BKSH6bI73W
Starts 1pm PT / 4pm ET / 8pm UK.
Another new guitar incoming today! pic.twitter.com/kjwZn8L08i

— Herman Li (@HermanLi) October 27, 2020

Li has been major supporter of music streaming on Twitch, going so far as to give fellow streamers blanket permission to reproduce anything from DragonForce’s Maximum Overload, Reaching Into Infinity, and Extreme Power Metal albums without fear of DMCA-fuelled repercussions.

Li himself is (or was) a frequent Twitch streamer, where he could often be found shredding on his guitar, playing games, and chatting with fellow musicians, among other things.

While Twitch has not revealed any official reason for the suspension of Li’s channel, plenty of industry commentators have naturally suspected that it has fallen victim to the merciless automated DMCA takedown system, which offers creators no means of disputing or appealing bans to save their content.

If even a well known and respected streamer such as Li can fall victim to the machinations of the copyright robots, it’d only be natural for any other streamer to fear for the safety of their channel, and in the case of professionals, their livelihood.

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[Govt. Shitposting Machine]

This is funny as fuck but how is this a happening?

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

This is what happens when you let robots do all the bureaucratic work.

 

[TFT-A9]

Twitch is run by retards and water is wet.

 

[Tanner Glass]

This is funny as fuck but how is this a happening?

I'd imagine because it's the latest hilarious casualty in people DMCA'ing the fuck out of Twitch and their apparently inability to handle it at all. It's also Twitch opening a huge can of worms in a series of events wherein they shoot themselves in the foot.

It's a hopefully prelude to Twitch getting sued because not only did the DMCA him but they also
- Did not give him an option to appeal or counterclaim, which is his legal right.
- Obviously accepted a DMCA from someone who doesn't have the right to file a DMCA, as the person being DMCA'ed is the literal copyright holder and creator who has expressly given permission for his content to be used by not just himself, but everyone on the platform.

I wonder if they ran this though the "Trust and Safety Council" and got the hybrid deer/girl streamer's permission.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Mundane Matt strikes again.

 

[HeyItsHarveyMacClout]

Hmmm who would’ve guess a company ran entirely by trannies would be incompetent

 

[SSF2T Old User]

Now the question is would YouTube pull the same bullshit as Twitter? Because their automated system is just as shit as Twitch's.

 

[benutz]

Won't be the first time this has happened. Won't be the last. The cancer has set in. It's a lottery which part of the body will drop off next.

Some people make up sample packs. Those sample packs get used by people making tracks. The youtube algorithm notes this. It then blackballs the originator of the work and copyright strikes them or wtf and the person that got the sample pack for free, oftentimes, is allowed to continue. Many such cases.

But it's happened in the photography world as well. Don't ask me. Somehow. That's pretty murky as well how it's all worked out.

This all has a knock on effect. Certain people who have much to give, even their life's work sometimes, just want to spread the love around, so they go for a certain type of license that will give them, er, license to do that. But still, not good enough for the behemoth monster that is googlytube.

What the fuck is the point of sharing your work if someone takes that work for free and then takes you down (even inadvertently) so you can't share that work with anyone else? Kinda self-defeating. Then again, some people do it on purpose, because they can, because they believe it gives them some kind of exclusivity with your work and they are being gangster and playing the system against mugs who do this for nothing. Yes, it really is as simple as that sometimes.

Things like this have been happening in various forms for several years now. Guitar channels. Music producer channels who supply samples. Instrumentalists that provide lessons. All kinds of shit. Even just original music makers who had their tracks outright fucking robbed by others who claimed them for their own and got the strike in first. Been a few of them.

When we were young *, we were advised to be careful because the music world was full of 'sharks'. Well yeah. Today the music world is full of nothing more than viruses.


"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson.


I do believe that Hunter never actually said that. But he should have.


Next up we have Mista Bishi. And oh boy, is he a full fucking raging torrent of witty inappropriate content as well. We're still writing the book on that cunt. But that is for another day.



* We shone like the sun...

 

[Zelos Wilder]

Herman and his streams were absolute king shit too and this is absolute bullshit. I hope he retaliates and sues twitch into the dirt.

 

[Milkis]

Are you all fucking high? Nobody ever gets prosecuted for filing or accepting spurious DMCA claims and nobody ever will be, not until the economy as we currently know it is dead and buried by something else.

 

[benutz]

Mundane Matt strikes again.

I fail to see what rearranging giant garden boulders has to do with this.

Sorry, not sorry!

 

[Zelos Wilder]

I fail to see what rearranging giant garden boulders has to do with this.

Sorry, not sorry!

You aren't looking deep enough.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

The asshole who wrote this article had way too much fun doing it.

 

[likeacrackado]

Twitch mods too busy posting trans flags and jacking off to titty streamers to check reports

 

[Slamerella]

- Obviously accepted a DMCA from someone who doesn't have the right to file a DMCA, as the person being DMCA'ed is the literal copyright holder and creator who has expressly given permission for his content to be used by not just himself, but everyone on the platform.

Brings back memories back in 2009/2010 when let's players were getting their videos taken down by people who don't exist for content not in the video. God, the DMCA needs to either be rewritten or straight up dropped. It's a shitty system that can be abused by anyone, and you don't even need much power to do so.

 

[Fcret]

I'd imagine because it's the latest hilarious casualty in people DMCA'ing the fuck out of Twitch and their apparently inability to handle it at all. It's also Twitch opening a huge can of worms in a series of events wherein they shoot themselves in the foot.

It's a hopefully prelude to Twitch getting sued because not only did the DMCA him but they also
- Did not give him an option to appeal or counterclaim, which is his legal right.
- Obviously accepted a DMCA from someone who doesn't have the right to file a DMCA, as the person being DMCA'ed is the literal copyright holder and creator who has expressly given permission for his content to be used by not just himself, but everyone on the platform.

I wonder if they ran this though the "Trust and Safety Council" and got the hybrid deer/girl streamer's permission.

There is no 'legal right' to contest a DMCA on a site you don't own. Twitch can remove whatever they want. The DMCA allows for website operators to institute a counterclaim process that absolves them of liability in civil proceedings, but they're also allowed to simply remove the content without saying anything.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Won't be the first time this has happened. Won't be the last. The cancer has set in. It's a lottery which part of the body will drop off next.

Some people make up sample packs. Those sample packs get used by people making tracks. The youtube algorithm notes this. It then blackballs the originator of the work and copyright strikes them or wtf and the person that got the sample pack for free, oftentimes, is allowed to continue. Many such cases.

But it's happened in the photography world as well. Don't ask me. Somehow. That's pretty murky as well how it's all worked out.

This all has a knock on effect. Certain people who have much to give, even their life's work sometimes, just want to spread the love around, so they go for a certain type of license that will give them, er, license to do that. But still, not good enough for the behemoth monster that is googlytube.

What the fuck is the point of sharing your work if someone takes that work for free and then takes you down (even inadvertently) so you can't share that work with anyone else? Kinda self-defeating. Then again, some people do it on purpose, because they can, because they believe it gives them some kind of exclusivity with your work and they are being gangster and playing the system against mugs who do this for nothing. Yes, it really is as simple as that sometimes.

Things like this have been happening in various forms for several years now. Guitar channels. Music producer channels who supply samples. Instrumentalists that provide lessons. All kinds of shit. Even just original music makers who had their tracks outright fucking robbed by others who claimed them for their own and got the strike in first. Been a few of them.

When we were young *, we were advised to be careful because the music world was full of 'sharks'. Well yeah. Today the music world is full of nothing more than viruses.


"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson.


I do believe that Hunter never actually said that. But he should have.


Next up we have Mista Bishi. And oh boy, is he a full fucking raging torrent of witty inappropriate content as well. We're still writing the book on that cunt. But that is for another day.



* We shone like the sun...

Time-stamped to show the absolute absurdity of youtube. It's a good video and not that long.

The hacked together solution is clever as well.

 

[The handsome tard]

Time-stamped to show the absolute absurdity of youtube. It's a good video and not that long.

The hacked together solution is clever as well.

Its times like this where I wonder if this is legic incompetence/not giving a shit from youtube like always or if maybe they are LITERALLY incapble of actually maintaining the site properly and wing it on the fac they lack any major competitors (and they ask daddy Google to shut down any on the basis of racism)